Ripped off by Realkingcobra anyone?

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He waited over a year for Glen to deliver and set-up and apparently gave up on it. Here's the most comprehensive tale by the dr. I feel bad for the dr based on what we have to go by. He went through all this effort and expense and never played a shot on the table he bought. And he's been out some pretty serious dough for 2 years.

Looks like Glen will make it better, although I don't know if he can make it right. Seems like he got ove-rextended $-wise and time wise.

This is the last thing I'm posting on this subject, ONE...if he'd have just taken the table like the plan was, none of this would have happened. TWO, when he sold the table, and I had Diamond deliver it because I couldn't make it the rest of the way, he should have had Diamond collect his money for him, then pay him.

Last, I should have washed my hands of this when HE sold the table to someone else but he didn't get paid first, then didn't get paid by the buyer, then asked me to collect his money for him.......so there's a lot more to this story than meets the eye here:wink:

Glen
 
This is the last thing I'm posting on this subject, ONE...if he'd have just taken the table like the plan was, none of this would have happened. TWO, when he sold the table, and I had Diamond deliver it because I couldn't make it the rest of the way, he should have had Diamond collect his money for him, then pay him.

Last, I should have washed my hands of this when HE sold the table to someone else but he didn't get paid first, then didn't get paid by the buyer, then asked me to collect his money for him.......so there's a lot more to this story than meets the eye here:wink:

Glen

I think a simple "it will be taken care of" would have gave you a lot more free time today.

Im sure this will be done and over soon.
 
Now that we've got this settled, would you still like for me to recover your bar table when I'm up in NJ next week...I'll even recover it for free with Simonis 860:wink:

If Glen shows up with cash AND recovers your table for free, I would say you are even. I would still be mad, but it would be even.

There is ZERO reason to get the run-around like that. Over a year to get your table and you just never got it. On top of him being able to ship it to someone else, collect the cash and never mail it to you. Poorly done.

I hope this matter gets handled as Glen says. While its a "better late then never" type of thing, this will surely make people think. You can do a million things right, but one wrong can hurt ya.

I've heard nothing but great things about his work, but this is beyond his work and abilities.

Hope everything works out and please let us know.
 
This is the last thing I'm posting on this subject, ONE...if he'd have just taken the table like the plan was, none of this would have happened. TWO, when he sold the table, and I had Diamond deliver it because I couldn't make it the rest of the way, he should have had Diamond collect his money for him, then pay him.

Last, I should have washed my hands of this when HE sold the table to someone else but he didn't get paid first, then didn't get paid by the buyer, then asked me to collect his money for him.......so there's a lot more to this story than meets the eye here:wink:

Glen

Ah Ha! The ole "other side of the story" rears it's head. I don't know that we'll ever cut through the whole shades of blame application, but I'm comforted to see Glen state there's mitigating circumstances, as I've always held him in high regard (even if he is an eccentric OCD ;) ;))

I'm sure Glen will get the $ to its rightful pocket and hopefully something good will come from this.

Press on soldiers.
 
AZB - "The Better Business Bureau of Billiards"

The Dr. has alot more patience then I do, maybe he has alot more money too:grin: to let it go on this long before going public in hopes to get it resolved.

If the RKC wasn't comfortable being in the middle, then he should have bowed out. Bottom line is, you've been holding onto this guys money for a long time and you've kept stringing him along telling him he was getting paid on such and such date. But the dude still doesn't have his money!

I don't know why most people that get into situations where they are clearly in the wrong with someone, get all bent out of shape and try to twist things around to put the blame on the victim, when they're called out on a forum.

There can be 20 different stories about this and that, but it really boils down to, you have his money STILL and have not paid him. You've sent him emails acknowledging you have his money and your going to pay him , but you blame him for not calling you. Like that's why you haven't paid him, he didn't call you?

From a business standpoint, you don't want things like this tarnishing your image. You have to keep in mind how big this board is. A guy reads this, tells his buddy, that buddy tells another buddy... it can really hurt you.

I haven't read anything bad about either one of you. I've followed all of RKC's threads about his work. He seems passionate about his work and seems extremely knowledgeable about tables. I've read many praises about his work. I just don't get why he would jeopardize all of that great publicity by not tossing the guys money in the mail. He had to know stalling him for this long, that he was probably about ready to out him here.

Customer Service Rating on this one - D-

Not to late to make it a B though if you really think it over on what's right.
 
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Wow, you waited 6 months for money, and within hours of
you posting it on AZ you are getting paid. How nice is that.

AZ family rocks.


lots of hugs
mrs.g

:grin:was hoping this thread would be nomintated for drama award, but
it looks like it's just about over.
 
The peanut gallery ALWAYS has something to say....I love it here:grin: Everything will turn out right though and I won't even charge a fee for chasing after lost money and recovering it:grin:...LOL Even with nothing in writing, I'm not the one to screw someone over, I'm the person that bends over backwards to make sure things are right:grin:

Glen

PS. I know, some of you just have to add more comments, but this thread is dead.
 
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Glenn
Its like I tell KJ all the time, its tough doing perfect work all the time because we all tend to want to uphold your rep. Must be a pain. Oh well, alls well that ends well.

tim
 
This is the last thing I'm posting on this subject, ONE...if he'd have just taken the table like the plan was, none of this would have happened. TWO, when he sold the table, and I had Diamond deliver it because I couldn't make it the rest of the way, he should have had Diamond collect his money for him, then pay him.

Last, I should have washed my hands of this when HE sold the table to someone else but he didn't get paid first, then didn't get paid by the buyer, then asked me to collect his money for him.......so there's a lot more to this story than meets the eye here:wink:

Glen

But the point is, unless I am misunderstanding, is that you DID collect the money and DID agree to transfer the sale to someone else. And then the doctor has not gotten paid after all of these months.

If you didn't do that, then none of this would have happened.
 
that's kinda what I was thinking... It's not like he was forced into being the middle man. He obviously voluntarily agreed to perfom that service (can't imaging RKC being "pressured" into anything) I just don't understand how his actions can be defended... I have no doubt he will make good on the $$$ but was it really worth the damage to his credibility? I doubt it.
 
that's kinda what I was thinking... It's not like he was forced into being the middle man. He obviously voluntarily agreed to perfom that service (can't imaging RKC being "pressured" into anything) I just don't understand how his actions can be defended... I have no doubt he will make good on the $$$ but was it really worth the damage to his credibility? I doubt it.

My credibility isn't hurt, I'm still never on time, always late, never where I say I'm at.....no, that's pretty much unchanged:grin: Now if you're talking about my credibility as a table mechanic...that's untouchable:wink: So I blame it all on my watch, because it never keeps the same time or date I do:grin:

Glen
 
But the point is, unless I am misunderstanding, is that you DID collect the money and DID agree to transfer the sale to someone else. And then the doctor has not gotten paid after all of these months.

If you didn't do that, then none of this would have happened.

I know, I know....but sometimes shit just happens.....then we come along and step in it, and track it around everywhere:grin: but as I've said, he's not out any money, so all's well that ends well:smile:

Glen
 
My credibility isn't hurt, I'm still never on time, always late, never where I say I'm at.....no, that's pretty much unchanged:grin: Now if you're talking about my credibility as a table mechanic...that's untouchable:wink: So I blame it all on my watch, because it never keeps the same time or date I do:grin:

Glen

Its hurt by me.I will never use your services.All you have is excuses and now are making a joke of it.A year to get this guy his money,give me a break.
 
My credibility isn't hurt, I'm still never on time, always late, never where I say I'm at.....no, that's pretty much unchanged:grin: Now if you're talking about my credibility as a table mechanic...that's untouchable:wink: So I blame it all on my watch, because it never keeps the same time or date I do:grin:

Glen

Buy a new watch. :grin:
 
I know, I know....but sometimes shit just happens.....then we come along and step in it, and track it around everywhere:grin: but as I've said, he's not out any money, so all's well that ends well:smile:

Glen

Sometimes you just have to stick to what you are good at.

The best Chinese restaurant where I live has terrible service. They refuse to hire anyone else to work there and have over 20 tables with just two waitresses, someimes only one plus the owner that runs the cashier. But the food is beyond anything around. So the place is always packed. Everyone I talk to says the same thing. I have learned to get my order to go - then I don't have to worry about the service.

With Glen, I think if you want a table done and done right - get on his list. If you want someone to complete a business transaction, work with someone else.

Watchez<----still hopes to buy a table someday and have Glen install it.
 
You never paid me for the table, you bought the table from Steve Duthie, I never touched that money. I picked up the table from Washington State to deliver it to you in New Jersey for $600 you're right

Glen

You picked up a table in Washington State to deliver to NJ for only $600?

Uhh, do you ever want to make your way up to Calgary? I have a GC3 that needs some loving and I would pay just to get you here.
 
My credibility isn't hurt, I'm still never on time, always late, never where I say I'm at.....no, that's pretty much unchanged:grin: Now if you're talking about my credibility as a table mechanic...that's untouchable:wink: So I blame it all on my watch, because it never keeps the same time or date I do:grin:

Glen

Am I the only one put off by this? I've been thinking about contacting Glen to work on my table based on his rep... I'm not so sure anymore. I know he is great at what he does, but if he doesn't do it, is it great?
 
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