Sarah Rousey blanks Parica ?

[rackmsuckr]

The flip side is that Glenn Atwell got penalized 2 games against Lining for not showing up because he was playing in the Finals of the BCAPL for Master Scotch Doubles with me. So he forfeited to come back to play the 2nd set.

It was totally not his fault for being late. We waited a day and several different start times to accommodate our opponents who were both shooting in the 10 ball. I was there since 4pm waiting for our 5:00 match, which didn't start til 8, because of their 10ball matches.

We never heard his name called or anything. We got shafted. We were told he was late and to report in.

By the time he got down there, it was too late. Meanwhile, our opponents went to go eat. By the time our 2nd match started, it was 11pm. Throw in a bad call, a missed ball in hand (Glenn thought it would be a foul to tell me), and a kick on the 8 that went into the wrong pocket, and there you pretty much have how the 2nd set went down.

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

What Mike Page said. Jose was 18 minutes late for his match with Sarah and a forfeit was ruled. AS to why he was late I have no idea and have not seen him since.

His next match is Wednesday at 6P, so we shall see.

 

[ShootingArts]

remembering a classy guy

First, Sarah moves on, Jose moves to the losers side. I think Sarah would be the last one to say she beat Jose in a match they didn't play.

It is nice to see a rule being applied equally but I won't say it is being applied equally until one of the current "stars" receives the same treatment. I well remember a fellow competitor that has been dead for decades now because he refused preferential treatment. RIP Bap! Everyone should be treated equally but so rarely are.

Hu

 

[sliprock]

This is complete and total bull ca-ca.

It is up to the player to be vigilant about their tournament scheduling.

As a player who has been screwed -- more than once -- by TDs who gave preferential treatment to a pro player, I applaud how this went down.

Lou Figueroa
it's about
f-in time

Been there myself. Great job by the TD.

 

[jay helfert]

A TD who is doing a good job is rarely noticed. It is when he messes up that people notice him.

 

[alstl]

This is complete and total bull ca-ca.

It is up to the player to be vigilant about their tournament scheduling.

As a player who has been screwed -- more than once -- by TDs who gave preferential treatment to a pro player, I applaud how this went down.

Lou Figueroa
it's about
f-in time

Should they wait indefinitely for the guy to show up and throw off the tournament schedule? No. Should they get a cell phone number when he enters the tournament so the situation can be avoided? Yes.

Maybe they are already doing that but if not it makes sense to me.

If Phil Mickelson overslept I'm pretty sure the PGA would give him call.

 

[vagabond]

A TD who is doing a good job is rarely noticed. It is when he messes up that people notice him.

I was happy for the decission by the TD.I was standing close by observing the fun. TD said that if he did not show up in 3 minures it will be a forfeit.New York Larry called Jose with his cell phone asking him to come to the tournament with in 3 minutes.I overheard Larry`s comments and from those comments it appeared that jose did not know that he had to play at that time and thought that it was later.It is about time TDs teach some dicipline for these crap shooters,cock fight fans,gamblers.These are tournaments and not the gambling matches to shark the opponents by coming late,stalling and all the other BS that infected the pool world.
By the way Jay, tell the people what u did to that guy who put the towel on the table as a support to shoot a ball.

It is funny:Sitting on the patio of my suite by the side of swimming pool typing this message the TD that made the decission passed by

 

[dareads]

Should they wait indefinitely for the guy to show up and throw off the tournament schedule? No. Should they get a cell phone number when he enters the tournament so the situation can be avoided? Yes.

Maybe they are already doing that but if not it makes sense to me.

If Phil Mickelson overslept I'm pretty sure the PGA would give him call.

I would have to disagree here. If you are running a 128 person tournament the last thing you should have to worry about is getting the cell phone numbers of ALL the participants so you can give them a reminder call. I think the way this played out is fair. The match times are known ahead of time and for whatever reason he didn't make it on time. All the TD did was enforce the rules that all the players knew about in advance.

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

First, Sarah moves on, Jose moves to the losers side. I think Sarah would be the last one to say she beat Jose in a match they didn't play.

You're exactly right, Hu. Sarah told me what happened on her way out the door and she was bummed. She would have rather played the match, and she felt bad for Jose...

Hu

You're exactly right, Hu. Sarah told me what happened on her way out the door and she was bummed. She would have rather played the match, and she felt bad for Jose.

I was happy for the decission by the TD.I was standing close by observing the fun. TD said that if he did not show up in 3 minures it will be a forfeit.New York Larry called Jose with his cell phone asking him to come to the tournament with in 3 minutes.I overheard Larry`s comments and from those comments it appeared that jose did not know that he had to play at that time and thought that it was later.It is about time TDs teach some dicipline for these crap shooters,cock fight fans,gamblers.These are tournaments and not the gambling matches to shark the opponents by coming late,stalling and all the other BS that infected the pool world.
By the way Jay, tell the people what u did to that guy who put the towel on the table as a support to shoot a ball.

I'm not sure I would put Jose in this category. He's a soon to be in the hall of fame (hopefully) veteran who knows the difference between a US Open Championship and a money match in Hard Times with some road player. I doubt he missed his date with Sarah because he was at a cock fight and lost track of time.

If Jose said he was late because he thought he was playing later I take him at his word. Is there even one of us that never missed a appointment because we had the time wrong?

 

[allen_jr]

It is about time TDs teach some dicipline for these crap shooters,cock fight fans,gamblers.These are tournaments and not the gambling matches to shark the opponents by coming late,stalling and all the other BS that infected the pool world.

Wow, kinda harsh... Teach them some discipline? Some times people are just late, for whatever reason. Sometimes shit happens, or you accidentally forget... This does not make someone a bad person in need of some discipline.

I agree with the decision to forfeit, rules are rules but hardly think it warrants labeling the "late player" in such a manner.

 

[indy1p]

Is this True?

for sure its true he had to play a local guy from my town after his forefit which should have put him out of the tourney...instead he goes 4 rounds further

 

[jay helfert]

I was happy for the decission by the TD.I was standing close by observing the fun. TD said that if he did not show up in 3 minures it will be a forfeit.New York Larry called Jose with his cell phone asking him to come to the tournament with in 3 minutes.I overheard Larry`s comments and from those comments it appeared that jose did not know that he had to play at that time and thought that it was later.It is about time TDs teach some dicipline for these crap shooters,cock fight fans,gamblers.These are tournaments and not the gambling matches to shark the opponents by coming late,stalling and all the other BS that infected the pool world.
By the way Jay, tell the people what u did to that guy who put the towel on the table as a support to shoot a ball.

It is funny:Sitting on the patio of my suite by the side of swimming pool typing this message the TD that made the decission passed by

It is not like Jose to miss his match time. Definitely not typical of him. But there are few players who haven't got their wires crossed once or twice. It would be hard to find a pro player who has never been late for his match, and forfeited. Over the years I've probably forfeited, at least once, just about every "name" player you can think of. Sigel is about the only guy I can remember who NEVER missed his match, although a couple of times he wanted me to change his time. No deal!

About the towel incident. I looked over at Table #1 just as Dennis completed a shot, and then removed a small towel that was draped over the side pocket. As I approached the table he continued to shoot the next ball. I allowed him to finish the rack and then inquired about the towel. He had placed it over the side pocket to make a smooth surface to rest his cue on while he bridged. As his opponent Marcus Chamat had not objected, I gave Dennis a warning and told him if he did it again it would be loss of game. No more towels!

Later I told him it might be a good move in a poolroom, but it won't fly here. It was all handled quietly but Dennis got the message. Keep the poolroom nonsense in the poolroom.

 

[Mike in MN]

All of these pros should own a cell phone and the tournament director should have their number for situations like this. Rules are rules but this should be avoided whenever possible.

I'm surprised a veteran like Parica did something like this. If he can't afford a cell phone he should buy a timex.

I respectively disagree 100%. It's not the tournament director's responsibility to summon late players to their table. He is too busy, you know, running the tournament. He should spend all day on the phone like a worried parent tracking down his kids? The players are all adults, if they don't show up, that's their responsibility/choice. Life is full of consequences, and sometimes you just need to deal with them.

Eventually, it becomes a major issue because what if the TD was calling people who were no-shows, but forgot to call one guy? Or what if that person doesn't own a cell phone? (Yes, some people choose not to own a cell phone). Then that guy can say his opponent got preferential treatment because he never got his phone call reminding him to show up when everyone else did.

Should they wait indefinitely for the guy to show up and throw off the tournament schedule? No. Should they get a cell phone number when he enters the tournament so the situation can be avoided? Yes.

Maybe they are already doing that but if not it makes sense to me.

If Phil Mickelson overslept I'm pretty sure the PGA would give him call.

Ahhh, no, the PGA would not call Mickelson, or anyone else for that matter. If you're late to your tee time, you are disqualified. According to Rule 6-3a in the PGA Rules Book: "...if a player arrives at his starting point ready to play within five minutes after his starting time he is under a two-stoke penalty. Penalty for lateness beyond five minutes is disqualification."

 

[sarahrousey]

What, I didn't break and run 9 against Jose?!?! Just kidding. I did feel a little bad for Jose but after thinking about it, he has experience in tournaments and should know when his match is. His friend tried to say that the time of the match was changed from 2pm to 1pm and when he read it, it said 2pm. That wasn't true. The bracket has been up for days and nothing was changed. That was a problem of years past.

I do have to say that the tournament directors are doing a great job. It is nice to see that the rules are the same for everyone. On more than one occasion I have seen someone on the phone with someone that is running late trying to make a deal with the tournament director to give them extra time because they are on their way. That is what someone was trying to do in this situation and Ken Schumann handled it very professionally stating that unless he was physically there in the arena within 3 minutes, it would be a forfeit. Unfortunately, Jose did show up about 18 minutes after the match time. No one likes to win that way, but it happens. I like that this format is making the players responsible and punishes them if they are not.

I got tortured by Ralf Souquet the next match. I honestly had way more chances than I thought I would and I couldn't capitalize. I went to the pool room and hit some balls. Hopefully I will be more prepared for my match tonight.

Sarah

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

All of these pros should own a cell phone and the tournament director should have their number for situations like this. Rules are rules but this should be avoided whenever possible.

I'm surprised a veteran like Parica did something like this. If he can't afford a cell phone he should buy a timex.

The cell phone thing is a bad idea for all the reasons already mentioned. But bedsides all that, it wouldn't work anyway. This is a very international field. My friend was exchanging numbers with Tony Drago who lives in London and he told Tony to just dial his number on his cell phone and Tony would then have my friend's number in his phone, and he said his phone doesn't work here. I'm sure that's true of a lot of the other international players.

for sure its true he had to play a local guy from my town after his forfeit which should have put him out of the tourney...instead he goes 4 rounds further

I don't get this. Could you please explain in a little more detail? Are you saying that he somehow got 4 rounds further in the tournament by forfeiting to Sarah than he would have had he played her? That doesn't make sense. Besides which, he hasn't got 4 rounds further because his second match (first one being the forfeit) is not scheduled until 6PM today.

Or are you saying that if a player misses a match he should be tossed out of the tournament instead of losing that match? Sorry, but that is not the stated penalty for missing a match. The penalty is forfeiture of that match, not disqualification from the tournament. Obviously if you forfeit a match on the losers side then you are out.

 

[Black-Balled]

Tighten up, Rousey!

We all know you are not responsible for rule enforcement. thanks for the recap though!!

 

[alstl]

How about this idea? I was in Olive Garden recently and they take your name and give you a device which lights up and starts buzzing when it is time for you to be seated.


Maybe they could do something like that, each player's device 10 minutes before their match.

I just watched Efren go down 2-0 to Archer because he was a few minutes late. If I was a fan of Efren who went to Vegas to watch him play I wouldn't be a happy camper at that point.

Not ragging on the tournament director, just trying to come up with a workaround so the situation can be avoided. Speaking only for myself, I would rather watch a great player shoot pool than a tournament director enforce a rule.

 

[Nostroke]

How about this idea? I was in Olive Garden recently and they take your name and give you a device which lights up and starts buzzing when it is time for you to be seated.


Maybe they could do something like that, each player's device 10 minutes before their match.

I just watched Efren go down 2-0 to Archer because he was a few minutes late. If I was a fan of Efren who went to Vegas to watch him play I wouldn't be a happy camper at that point.

Not ragging on the tournament director, just trying to come up with a workaround so the situation can be avoided. Speaking only for myself, I would rather watch a great player shoot pool than a tournament director enforce a rule.

Well just maybe if they keep doing this, Players will be on time. Even Jeanette would be punished-she is usually 1 minutes late for every match.

 

[Mike in MN]

How about this idea? I was in Olive Garden recently and they take your name and give you a device which lights up and starts buzzing when it is time for you to be seated.


Maybe they could do something like that, each player's device 10 minutes before their match.

I just watched Efren go down 2-0 to Archer because he was a few minutes late. If I was a fan of Efren who went to Vegas to watch him play I wouldn't be a happy camper at that point.

Not ragging on the tournament director, just trying to come up with a workaround so the situation can be avoided. Speaking only for myself, I would rather watch a great player shoot pool than a tournament director enforce a rule.

Are you in a contest with yourself to find the worst idea possible? This may be the winner. I'm sorry, I just don't see what's wrong with people taking responsibility for their own tardiness. That's life. In the words of Vince Lombardi, "If you're early, you're on time. If you're on time, you're late. If you're late, you're forgotten."