Scott Frost bitten by black widow
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thebigdog said:
As I said the other half is a Nurse, and she say MRSA is from over use of Anti Biotics years ago, and it a contact infection. Lots of time surgical patients in Hospital because Staff don't way their hands.
Black widow venom is a neurotoxin, meaning it attacks the nerves. Typically you would not have much of a reaction on the skin, but you could die from paralysis of the diaphragm in extreme cases. This will often happen within hours of being bitten, but more likely, there will be little effect.
Brown recluse venom is hemolytic, meaning it attacks the tissues (skin). It can result in a very nasty wound in the worst cases, but most often there are little effects.
It sounds to me like it's more likely the result of a brown recluse or some other type of non web-building spider which are more mobile. They are often encountered in bedding that hasn't been used in awhile, for example, whereas black widows are web-builders and therefore will not be crawling around in bedding or clothing. One has to brush against their web to be bitten (or otherwise disturb their webs while moving things nearby).
Good luck to Scott Frost, definitely sounds like a nasty reaction.
Brown recluse venom is hemolytic, meaning it attacks the tissues (skin). It can result in a very nasty wound in the worst cases, but most often there are little effects.
It sounds to me like it's more likely the result of a brown recluse or some other type of non web-building spider which are more mobile. They are often encountered in bedding that hasn't been used in awhile, for example, whereas black widows are web-builders and therefore will not be crawling around in bedding or clothing. One has to brush against their web to be bitten (or otherwise disturb their webs while moving things nearby).
Good luck to Scott Frost, definitely sounds like a nasty reaction.
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MSRA is knowthing to Mess with- You can catch it from a door knob,telephone in most any hotel or motel -if the rooms are not dissinfected. Your kids can catch it at school. My father had it this winter,along with limes. The antibiotics are so strong,that they shut down your kidneys Fast! I bring a box of disinfecting wipes now when I travel. Good luck Scott, It shows up fast- hopefully he has insurance because the drugs are very expensive. My father had his leg cut open and it had to stay open for the facidous layer around the leg muscle to heal. It takes a while for all your blood levels to return to normal- It is a life and death situation! God bless , mark
MSRA is knowthing to Mess with- You can catch it from a door knob,telephone in most any hotel or motel -if the rooms are not dissinfected. Your kids can catch it at school. My father had it this winter,along with limes. The antibiotics are so strong,that they shut down your kidneys Fast! I bring a box of disinfecting wipes now when I travel. Good luck Scott, It shows up fast- hopefully he has insurance because the drugs are very expensive. My father had his leg cut open and it had to stay open for the facidous layer around the leg muscle to heal. It takes a while for all your blood levels to return to normal- It is a life and death situation! God bless , mark
CocoboloCowboy said:
Staff don't wash their hands, I've had to remind doctors to wash their hands before checking another wound or surgery on another patient. Years ago when when a room had a discharge the cleaning crew would strip the bed, and bleach the whole bed and just about everything in the room before the next patient was admitted. Now it gets a lick and a promise at most hospitals and not even that at most nursing homes. For the money we pay in health ins. it sucks.
I wish Scott the best for recovery. It would be nice if he was at home or someone elses home getting IV antibiotics and dressing changes from a homehealth nurse. Johnnyt
GET WELL SOON, Scott!!!
I was bitten last year by a spider.I never saw which one it was but my leg swelled up and my foot was almost twice the normal size.Luckily I didn`t have mrsa or a staff infection.I had to have my leg cut open to drain it and kept the hole packed with gauze.
I don`t know how to post pics on here otherwise I would post what my leg looked like.
A good website to check out is called Badspiderbites.com That has alot of pics and one of the grossest movies I`ve seen(the guy with the bite on his chin)I got alot of info from that site about my bite.
I don`t know how to post pics on here otherwise I would post what my leg looked like.
A good website to check out is called Badspiderbites.com That has alot of pics and one of the grossest movies I`ve seen(the guy with the bite on his chin)I got alot of info from that site about my bite.
wayne said:
I had a MRSA infection on my leg in Maui 4 years ago, I was hospitalized 2 times in a week, i almost went septic and it could have killed me, thats bad stuff, man was i sick. My whole leg turned purple like red wine(that dark) it stayed that way for months, I got celluitious in my leg(another infection)it swelled up huge,
I have a friend who had a employee who died of that MRSA-if they dont get the right antibiotic in you fast enough, game over. Once they do its like a triple bad flu. Point is that aint no joke, what i thought was a spider bite wasnt-its a form of Staph bacteria that your immune system dosent catch-everyone mistakes it as spider bite(it never is), i had it 2 times before, the 3rd time i got real sick in Hawaii, both prior times I thought it was a spider bite, cause it looks like one in the beginning.
I got it the 3rd time the day before I left to Hawaii for my friends wedding(he is my doctor-that was lucky). it took 3 days to do a wound culture and see what drugs the infection isnt resistant too, of about 20 drugs they tested for in the wound culture mine was resistant to 18 of them-of course we tried about 8 drugs that didnt work during the 3 days while we waited for the labs to come back. I could have got lucky and got the right class of drug but didnt, I needed a sulfer based antibiotic. Now I carry it with me EVERYWHRE I go ever since then.
If they got a jump on it, Scott will be fine the antibiotics will make him feel sick for a while as they kill alot of necessary bacteria in your body, so it takes your system a while to get back to normal.
scary stuff, its a VERY serious condition that is more often than not, isnot taken seriously enough. Everyone thinks its a spider bite, its sraph bacteria, its everywhere. AIDS patients have a higher incedence of out breaks b/c they have weaker immune systems, I dont have AIDS. Most people are colonized with the bacteria but our immune systen keeps it in check or you can pick it up on a door knob, food, any surface as its tough stuff and dosent die easly.
Hope Scott's doctors got a wound culture in time and him medicated, some people in advanced cases have to stay on a IV drip of antibiotics for a month or 2 afterwards, just depends on the case.
i know a bit about medicine, I just cant spell. dont ask me to change the oil in a car either.
A girl I work with took one of her kids to the hospital for something, nothing major. Anyway, while there she got MRSA and was in the hospital for two months and very near death. It was really sad because she is only in her 20's and she is single mom with two little kids. She did recover but it was a coin toss on whether or not she would survive.
I had the cellulitos infection like Fatboy. I was in the hospital for a week with that. The funny thing was my knee was hot to the touch like it had a fever in it. It stayed like that for over a year. Don't know why.
I had the cellulitos infection like Fatboy. I was in the hospital for a week with that. The funny thing was my knee was hot to the touch like it had a fever in it. It stayed like that for over a year. Don't know why.
most likely route for getting MRSA
Odds are that Scott started off with a bite. MRSA is often picked up at a hospital. It is nothing more than a nasty staph infection with one catch, it has built up immunity to most drugs. Since different strains of MRSA are resistant to different drugs you have to test every time to know how to treat it. If you are unlucky enough to catch it more than once there is no reason to think it is exactly the same strain of MRSA.
Because of the difficulty treating it MRSA is reported to kill close to 20,000 people a year in the US alone. Staph was a killer before the modern methods of treating it and these "super bug" staph infections are equally dangerous now.
To put things in perspective before people panic about Scott, roughly a quarter-million people in the US get MRSA every year so most do recover from it just fine.
Hu
CamposCues said:
Odds are that Scott started off with a bite. MRSA is often picked up at a hospital. It is nothing more than a nasty staph infection with one catch, it has built up immunity to most drugs. Since different strains of MRSA are resistant to different drugs you have to test every time to know how to treat it. If you are unlucky enough to catch it more than once there is no reason to think it is exactly the same strain of MRSA.
Because of the difficulty treating it MRSA is reported to kill close to 20,000 people a year in the US alone. Staph was a killer before the modern methods of treating it and these "super bug" staph infections are equally dangerous now.
To put things in perspective before people panic about Scott, roughly a quarter-million people in the US get MRSA every year so most do recover from it just fine.
Hu
ShootingArts said:
I think the girl at my work had a bad case and it caused her to get pneumonia on top of it, which is why she barely recoved.
Things that scare me:
50 cal machine gun...nope
Homocidal maniacs...nope
Rattlesnakes...nope
Rats...nope
Bats...nope
A tiny little dust spider...yep! I hate spiders, those creepy little b@stards
