Scott Frost bitten by black widow
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thebigdog said:
I'm pretty sure that the person in the photo was getting treated for the bite. There's no real effective way to treat a brown recluse bite, or no invasive measures that can be taken until the infection and necrosis has taken its course far enough. The necrosis can't be actively handled, but the infection can with antibiotics and medications along that line.
Thanks Mike for moving it back!
Sorry --- I hope he recovers soon. I was bit by one several years ago --- felt lousy for a couple days. Doc said if you don't have an allergic reaction or get an infection there was not much he needed to do for me. Black widow bites are a hazard when living on the desert. Years ago (before the bug man visited monthly to spray for the critters), we checked our shoes and shook out our clothes before dressing - lots of scorpions too. One early morning before we were really awake, my mom served me a scorpion in my eggs.
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These can!
This is the Australian Funnel Spider. They can Kill a dog in an hour. Tea Tree Oil comes from Australia. They also keep it handy!
ShootingArts said:Most spiders, something like 90-95% of them, can't bite hard enough to break the skin. Those other few spiders are some busy little bassets ain't they?
Hu
This is the Australian Funnel Spider. They can Kill a dog in an hour. Tea Tree Oil comes from Australia. They also keep it handy!
Scott, I wish you a speedy recovery. Do everything the Doc's tell you.
I spent a week in an Idaho hospital after a spider bite. It got me in my sleep. Spiders carry staph. The normal stuff is bad enough.
I spent a week in an Idaho hospital after a spider bite. It got me in my sleep. Spiders carry staph. The normal stuff is bad enough.
Hope he has a quick recovery.
avmaster said:
Just a pic I found on the web, but thanks for the empathy anyway.
My Central American friend was bitten on the ankle, and it looked like this (open deep wound with dead tissue around it), but not nearly as bad. Still, it took days of the doctor snipping dead tissue away before it stopped spreading and she could start healing over.
Didn't seem to be any way they could treat it except try to stay ahead of the spreading necritis (if that's the word). Maybe if she'd been able to get to a US hospital right away...
Hope this isn't what Frost got.
pj
chgo
Some good links for those who worry...
Leave it to a referee to break it down and be picky about details <sigh>...
Just a little sensitive to the issue being from OK too (host to all of these nasties), so here are some good links for anyone who wishes to sort it out. This is not meant in any way to be the end-all be-all post - just a few tips.
Note the distribution in the maps in this link - sevral nasty six-eyed varieties in desert southwest, but not the actual "brown recluse" (not that it matters to anyone who gets chomped by one of the others).
http://dermatology.cdlib.org/DOJvol5num2/special/recluse.html
There is a six-eyed Chilean variety that has a particulary nasty and aggressive temperament - fortunately not a problem in the U.S., but if you're playing a tourney in Santiago then beware.
ALL true spiders have spinerettes and produce silk and webs - that's part of what makes them spiders. Some just dont use them to routinely trap prey. The recluses nest and reproduce in web lined lairs. Note the non-chemical control suggestions here:
http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2061.html
Myths abound about the "long legs" varieties - some spiders, some not. None of them very impressive. Nice concise info here:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_grand_daddy_long_legs_poisonous
Good info on the Black Widows posted already. They are VERY real and VERY nasty in the short term if bitten but generally not fatal as already noted. I have done away with two of them nesting in the eaves of my house in the last few years. They are definitely not afraid of heights (LOL & shudder). And they are much more widespread than the recluses - basically nationwide and southern Canada. Info here:
http://kaston.transy.edu/widow.html
Being a long time camper I can attest to the advice given to Daniel Stern by the old man in The Milagro Beanfield War - "Don't let your testicles hang to low in the outhouse - black widows." (Sorry - was that too graphic?!?). They LOVE trash, rot and sewage.
Of course NONE of this makes a rat to Scott right now - best hopes and prayers for him...(refs have a heart too! :smile
Buddy
Leave it to a referee to break it down and be picky about details <sigh>...
Just a little sensitive to the issue being from OK too (host to all of these nasties), so here are some good links for anyone who wishes to sort it out. This is not meant in any way to be the end-all be-all post - just a few tips.
Note the distribution in the maps in this link - sevral nasty six-eyed varieties in desert southwest, but not the actual "brown recluse" (not that it matters to anyone who gets chomped by one of the others).
http://dermatology.cdlib.org/DOJvol5num2/special/recluse.html
There is a six-eyed Chilean variety that has a particulary nasty and aggressive temperament - fortunately not a problem in the U.S., but if you're playing a tourney in Santiago then beware.
ALL true spiders have spinerettes and produce silk and webs - that's part of what makes them spiders. Some just dont use them to routinely trap prey. The recluses nest and reproduce in web lined lairs. Note the non-chemical control suggestions here:
http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2061.html
Myths abound about the "long legs" varieties - some spiders, some not. None of them very impressive. Nice concise info here:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_grand_daddy_long_legs_poisonous
Good info on the Black Widows posted already. They are VERY real and VERY nasty in the short term if bitten but generally not fatal as already noted. I have done away with two of them nesting in the eaves of my house in the last few years. They are definitely not afraid of heights (LOL & shudder). And they are much more widespread than the recluses - basically nationwide and southern Canada. Info here:
http://kaston.transy.edu/widow.html
Being a long time camper I can attest to the advice given to Daniel Stern by the old man in The Milagro Beanfield War - "Don't let your testicles hang to low in the outhouse - black widows." (Sorry - was that too graphic?!?). They LOVE trash, rot and sewage.
Of course NONE of this makes a rat to Scott right now - best hopes and prayers for him...(refs have a heart too! :smile
Buddy
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Not sure if anyone has posted a current update but I spoke to Scott tonight. Said he is doing better. The anti-biotics are making him sick and he was to take more tonight. The doc keeps reopening the wound to try to keep it clean and all the crap out of it. He hopes to maybe be able to go home tomorrow. Says either way, he feels like crap.
Mike
Mike
Thanks!
Mike,
Thanks a bunch for the update. Sounds like things are progressing very well considering the possibilities. Massive doses of antibiotics almost always make you feel nasty, not much help for that.
Hu
AzHousePro said:
Mike,
Thanks a bunch for the update. Sounds like things are progressing very well considering the possibilities. Massive doses of antibiotics almost always make you feel nasty, not much help for that.
Hu
AzHousePro said:
So did he get nailed by a spider, contract a staph infection (MRSA), or both?
Man, rest up good and feel better soon, Scott.
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I just got back from the hospital,brought Scott some pizza and ice cream,he was happy to eat something good.He is doing much better and is in good spirits and should be out later today.He was disappointed about not being able to play in the Reno tourney but is looking forward to hitting some balls and getting ready for the next tournament. :smile: