things that make me go hmmmm...
Somehow I find this very difficult to believe.. Maybe it's just me being suspicious.....
Somehow I find this very difficult to believe.. Maybe it's just me being suspicious.....
Scott Gracio I want my cue or money back now.
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I think what dean has offered is pure kindness but the point is not the money, so i am turning down your offer thanks anyway, I to feel bad for Scott I have no vengeance for him but if he keeps saling cues here on AZB he'll do the same thing again. All Scott has to do is come on AZB say he was wrong tell me he will make it right say he will have a cue done 1 year from today and be a man of honor and follow through if he does that with me and anybody else if there is others and I not saying there is, he will be facing his problem one at a time and will help himself become honorable. And don't start posting who died and left me in charge of people's life I am trying to solve my situation and help Scott retain his honor if he doesn't want to do that. He should not be selling cues here on AZB, most if not all the people here seem like people of honor one has offered to pay money for Scott one has offered a cue to me I have refused both. It's not money or cue it's what I see as honor and integrity. He has a chance to make it right so if your friends with Scott call him. Because there is no pride without honor.
Oh it is definitely suspect. I have a call into some of his friends to make sure people see these threads. $20 buys a nice rock of crack.
And this from Idiologist:
Oh it is definitely suspect. I have a call into some of his friends to make sure people see these threads. $20 buys a nice rock of crack.
I don't know Scott but I pray for Scott's sake and anyone who cares about him that this is not the case.
Something obviously has happened however. I doubt he just got out of bed one day and decided "today is the day I am going to start ripping people off."
I know this is not necessarily relevent nor an excuse for what appears to have happened and I agree this thread needs to be kept alive to caution other potential buyers.
I hope it is nothing bad. I'm not out a ton, but it's still funny... the idea of paying $40 to get my cue shipped or it is held hostage. Sounds like that move Showman pulled.
Could Billyard be Scott?? Only the shadow knows...............
Tap, tap, tap. Sam I knew it wasn't about the money and I knew you would turn the money down. Everyone, Sam is a great guy, tries to help people out, very wise, and very sincere. Rest assured, if he started this thread he was wronged and upset about it. Hope all is well Sam. Long time no see.
Am I the only one thinking I wouldn't have been "EXTREMELY happy" with how all that went?
best,
brian kc
Thanks for the vote, take care cris as always I hope all is well.
As I mentioned before, I feel partially to blame because I am the person who put Sam in touch with Gracio. I had a bunch of cues made by Scott 5 or more years ago. Sam liked the hit of one of them and then he got in touch with Scott and Scott made him the cue he still uses.
Sometime later, I had shipped some Hoppe Blanks I bought on ebay straight to Scott, who made me three cues with the blanks. He had one left and I told Sam maybe he wanted to get a Hoppe conversion done by Gracio, which is where this story starts. Sam paid me for the blank and then talked with Gracio and sent him money and here we are today.
I have several times offered Sam the use of one of my Hoppe Gracio cues "until" Gracio
delivers Sam's cue, but Sam will not hear of it. He is waiting for Gracio to do the right thing.
It is very sad that this happened. I have seen scott sell several cues on ebay in the last year. You know what goes around comes around, you will never get away with cheating or being dishonest with someone, it always comes back too you. Good luck and God Bless!
Don't feel that way Dennis, and thank you for the thought.
If you need a cue Sam, you can borrow my Sugartree or Davis/Prince
Unnecessary but thanks
I've had the same problem...however you can file wire fraud charges...I can't remember the site for that but paypal provided it to me...good luck!
To Tommy who seems to think he knows everything. You obviously fail to consider the process of filing a police report in relation to the charge and statute of limitations. Typically, and it depends by state, theft charges beyond a misdemeanor will depend on dollar amount. In most cases that comes with a 6 month to 3 year statute of limitations. Of course I'm speaking round about here.
But you of course seem to know exactly what this guy should do, so why don't you actually clear up any confusion and state the law clearly which you so boldly expressed expertise in your red rep of me.
Is it theft, mail fraud, wire fraud, failure to deliver goods or some other charge? You have it all figured out right?
Prove us all wrong and lay out exactly what his course of action should be?
We're all dying to hear from an expert such as yourself.
Either that or admit you were just mouthing off and don't really know anything.
But you of course seem to know exactly what this guy should do, so why don't you actually clear up any confusion and state the law clearly which you so boldly expressed expertise in your red rep of me.
Is it theft, mail fraud, wire fraud, failure to deliver goods or some other charge? You have it all figured out right?
Prove us all wrong and lay out exactly what his course of action should be?
We're all dying to hear from an expert such as yourself.
Either that or admit you were just mouthing off and don't really know anything.
Am I the only one thinking I wouldn't have been "EXTREMELY happy" with how all that went?
best,
brian kc
I got a great price on an awesome cue and in the end it came out exactly as I hoped. The cue was for my brothers wife and she loves it. I was extremely happy with the end result and the overall price... Things in the middle could have been better but I don't sweat the small stuff. In the end I got what I wanted and was happy. Even with this thread; I would reach out to Scott and work with him on another cue.
great billyard, then buy another cue from scott and send him the money in full, then he can mail out the cue he is holding hostage for another 20 bucks. and can send sam his money back.
and then of course you will get the cue you paid for. this way you get to make everyone happy.
unless your money disappears also and then lets hear your tune.
and then of course you will get the cue you paid for. this way you get to make everyone happy.
unless your money disappears also and then lets hear your tune.
LMAO. Yeah, I wanna see the paypal receipt billyard sends to Scott....you know there is no chance he would do biz now with this dead beat. billyard had a "good" experience for getting the run around and treated like crap... too funny.