Should I have been BARRED FOR LIFE here?

[Williebetmore]

... but it means you are causing problems above and beyond what is acceptable...IN A POOL HALL. Do some guys just not get this? Thats like getting kicked out of the KKK for being too racist.

C&C,
Dang, what are you doing? I just snorted Diet Pepsi all over my keyboard. If they have to replace it I'm NOT paying for it. I'll send you the bill.

P.S. - sorry I couldn't give you more rep yet; that was too funny.

 

[DelaWho???]

As a pool room owner I know from a life time of experience that a pool player is never wrong in a situation. He should always be able to keep the room open free of charge to finish a set. He should always be able to talk down to the owner. God himself gave the pool player that right. A pool player should be able to borrow money at will and run a tab at all rooms. Interest free of course. Pool room owners OWE it to him.

Note..Anyone NOT seeing the sarcasm here, PLEASE stop reading this and schedule an appointment with a certified therapist immediately! Seriously.


I have noticed that everyday behavior in a pool room would get you thrown out of 99% places in this country. I cannot fathom going to a restaurant and screaming at the owner that I wanted to stay late or tell him I am out of money and will pay him later. Tell any restaurant owners that the food sucks every single day and still go back day after day? Tell them the tables are dirty day after day and still come back? Ever start screaming "f**king" this and "f**king" because you didnt like the price of ice tea at Applebees? Do you go to the Sears store and just sit and watch TV all day, because you spent some money in there? You know why that doesnt happen? Because you would get asked to leave on day ONE. No pool player wants to admit it but if you are getting asked to leave a pool hall, your behavior is SO BAD it's not only not worth the money you spend, but it means you are causing problems above and beyond what is acceptable...IN A POOL HALL. Do some guys just not get this? Thats like getting kicked out of the KKK for being too racist. Many pool halls are in violation of their business license if they stay open late. If they have alcohol, they can be shut down on the FIRST violation. What do pool players give the business owner if they get a citation? Maybe an apology? Usually nothing. Yes, this post hit a nerve with me. We have banned too many people to count. Most of them couldnt pay me $10,000 to get back in. Not an exaggeration.

Great Post!!! I couldn't agree more.

McCue Banger McCue

 

[Gregg]

This is far and away the best post I have ever read on this forum! You have to have been in a room owner's shoes to really appreciate the message that's in there. Thanks for brightening my day!

Yea, come to think of it, some of the most backward, asinine, abrasive behavior I've witness has been at a pool hall. I mean, damn, if you don't know how to act at a pool hall, what's that tell you?

 

[TX Poolnut]

How dare the room owner ask you to pay table time. I don't know about Maryland, but here in Texas the pool halls all pay the bills with good looks and sunshine. I would be offended if a room owner asked me to pay for services rendered.

 

[Mike Templeton]

Actually, I guess you only owe half of the total table time. Your two fish owe the other half. I always pay all of the time if I win, but I only think I would pay my half if I was barred for life.

One other thing. I don't see why people feel the need to go back somewhere that barred them. If a business owner doesn't want my business, I'm sure not gonna beg to go in there and spend my money. Now I do usually get along with everyone, and as billy_bob said, I try to be a humble winner when I do win. But I'd drive 100 milse to another room before I would go somewhere that I felt I was not welcomed.

Mike

 

[ironman]

As a pool room owner I know from a life time of experience that a pool player is never wrong in a situation. He should always be able to keep the room open free of charge to finish a set. He should always be able to talk down to the owner. God himself gave the pool player that right. A pool player should be able to borrow money at will and run a tab at all rooms. Interest free of course. Pool room owners OWE it to him.

Note..Anyone NOT seeing the sarcasm here, PLEASE stop reading this and schedule an appointment with a certified therapist immediately! Seriously.


I have noticed that everyday behavior in a pool room would get you thrown out of 99% places in this country. I cannot fathom going to a restaurant and screaming at the owner that I wanted to stay late or tell him I am out of money and will pay him later. Tell any restaurant owners that the food sucks every single day and still go back day after day? Tell them the tables are dirty day after day and still come back? Ever start screaming "f**king" this and "f**king" because you didnt like the price of ice tea at Applebees? Do you go to the Sears store and just sit and watch TV all day, because you spent some money in there? You know why that doesnt happen? Because you would get asked to leave on day ONE. No pool player wants to admit it but if you are getting asked to leave a pool hall, your behavior is SO BAD it's not only not worth the money you spend, but it means you are causing problems above and beyond what is acceptable...IN A POOL HALL. Do some guys just not get this? Thats like getting kicked out of the KKK for being too racist. Many pool halls are in violation of their business license if they stay open late. If they have alcohol, they can be shut down on the FIRST violation. What do pool players give the business owner if they get a citation? Maybe an apology? Usually nothing. Yes, this post hit a nerve with me. We have banned too many people to count. Most of them couldnt pay me $10,000 to get back in. Not an exaggeration.

I surely hope you got it off your chest. I know I feel better just reading it.
I promise you this, I will think before *****ing about a Mans table again.
Have a nice day?!

 

[scruff]

I would probably have gracious pulled the room guy aside, offered him half of the last sets winning to stay open for the last rack, and then payed the table time when asked. If had an agreement with the opposition they should have chipped in for time too.

After all the guy , as you so rightly pointed out, was sharing his 'fish', cut him in on it. It may also have helped your obviously strained relationship with him.

 

[Padron]

As a pool room owner I know from a life time of experience that a pool player is never wrong in a situation. He should always be able to keep the room open free of charge to finish a set. He should always be able to talk down to the owner. God himself gave the pool player that right. A pool player should be able to borrow money at will and run a tab at all rooms. Interest free of course. Pool room owners OWE it to him.

Note..Anyone NOT seeing the sarcasm here, PLEASE stop reading this and schedule an appointment with a certified therapist immediately! Seriously.


I have noticed that everyday behavior in a pool room would get you thrown out of 99% places in this country. I cannot fathom going to a restaurant and screaming at the owner that I wanted to stay late or tell him I am out of money and will pay him later. Tell any restaurant owners that the food sucks every single day and still go back day after day? Tell them the tables are dirty day after day and still come back? Ever start screaming "f**king" this and "f**king" because you didnt like the price of ice tea at Applebees? Do you go to the Sears store and just sit and watch TV all day, because you spent some money in there? You know why that doesnt happen? Because you would get asked to leave on day ONE. No pool player wants to admit it but if you are getting asked to leave a pool hall, your behavior is SO BAD it's not only not worth the money you spend, but it means you are causing problems above and beyond what is acceptable...IN A POOL HALL. Do some guys just not get this? Thats like getting kicked out of the KKK for being too racist. Many pool halls are in violation of their business license if they stay open late. If they have alcohol, they can be shut down on the FIRST violation. What do pool players give the business owner if they get a citation? Maybe an apology? Usually nothing. Yes, this post hit a nerve with me. We have banned too many people to count. Most of them couldnt pay me $10,000 to get back in. Not an exaggeration.

As a fellow room owner, all I can say is, AMEN BROTHER! Great post.

-Dan-
www.greatlakesbilliards.com

 

[alstl]

G-man,
I don't think we need to speculate that the Masked-one owes money for the table time. Last I checked, it was illegal to run out of a business without paying what you owe. Heck, if we were allowed to stiff anyone we disliked; the IRS would be out of business.

P.S. - Come to think of it I'm REALLY ticked off at the oil companies, I think I'll drive off without paying the next time I pump - I'm sure the cops will be very understanding. Hey, I like this legal defense - please ignore this post.

Don't drop the soap in the shower. As far as the original post is concerned, your constitutional rights have clearly been violated. This link should be helpful. http://www.aclu.org/

 

[Barbara]

Hey Masked Man,

I'm with the crowd that you shouldn't have run out with the table time. You know they have to shut down because with a liquor license, bad things can happen with anyone staying after hours.

I knew the Carbaugh boys at Hagerstown and saw Walt at Bill and Billies in July.

Who are they selling to and why? I always thought they had a great room! And Sandy was one helluva cook!! Damn!! she was good!! I'll miss her breakfasts!!

Barbara

 

[Bamacues]

I play at Hagerstown Billiards several times weekly. I do not know anything about the situation that arose here, so I can't comment on that. What I can say is that the Carbaugh brothers were great guys to have around a pool hall, and the new owner, Roger Munson, is also a great guy. With that being said, Roger is a MUCH more cut and dried kind of guy who has a lot less patience than the Carbaughs. He may temper out over time, but I think most of it is in his make-up. That is not a bad thing, from where I stand.

 

[bells]

be more diplomatic

My last night in Hagerstown, MD, at Hagerstown Billiards, I was asked to play some cheap 9-ball sets by a much lesser player who didn't know I played a lot better than him. I will repeat, I was ASKED. Well, I beat him until he quit, and then his friend wanted to play, so I played and beat him also. They were both pretty bad, but the first guy was an idiot with an attitude problem and a cocky air about him, so I layed down pretty fierce. Since I couldn't just drill his buddy, I layed down during those sets also.

Now, there's also an interesting situation with the clown who was working the front desk. He was in the middle of buying the business, and we used to kind of get along. Not good buddies, but it was tolerable. Well, the deskman, Roger, decided to be a douchebag to me because we had gotten into it over very trivial things in the recent past. So, in my last several visits to the pool room before I moved to North Carolina, there was an obvious tension between him and I. Actually, the other regulars and I were also not getting along with each other very well. When I first started playing, they pretty much robbed me, so I got better, didn't let them know about it, and then proceeded to rob them back as much as I could. Naturally, it was a recipe for disaster.

Anyway, Roger was constantly ragging on me and saying some very disgusting and innappropriate things to me. I usually let it go, but I started standing up for myself and fired insults right back at him. Flash forward back to the night in question. I'm playing the second guy, and Roger says he's closing at two. Well, it's ten till two when he says it, but we had already started another set before he said anything. I'm beating this guy 3 to 0 in a race to 4, and as the last game is being racked, Roger the douchebag says, "Don't even rack the balls, we're leaving now." HE CUT ME OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SET. He has never cut off anyone in the middle of a set. Many pool room owners have told me it's a cardinal sin to do so. He did it to me because we didn't get along.

Well, I don't get payed for the last set naturally, and Roger and I get into a heated argument, at which point he barrs me for life. That's fine. But then he has the balls to ask me to pay table time! What a joke. I told him to screw himself. By the by, I think he was also pissed because I was robbing the guys that he usually robs.

Sorry for the long post, but what would YOU do if you were cut off in the middle of a set? Mind you, we started playing that set before he said anything about closing, and he stays open for regulars sometimes until 3 or 4 in the morning, so the time on the clock means almost nothing. What would you do here?

You needed to be more diplomatic in that situation. Whne he announced that he was closing I would have went over and talked to him. I would have offered to split the winnings from the last set with him. Esp if you had the nutts. Look at it this way you both get payed and your both happy. Getting some money is better than getting no money for that last set.Also you have the chance to play these guys again. Thats the most important part that you would get a chance to play those guys again. Pay the time for the table.......................... you need to learn how to think on your feet.

 

[MaskedMan]

Listen fellas.

I only stiffed him for the time AFTER he barred me for life. If I did it before, then I deserved to be barred. You guys need to read the entire post before blabbing on ridiculously about something that happened out of sequence. I WOULD HAVE PAID THE TIME IF HE DIDN'T BARR ME FIRST. Jesus Christ. cueandcushion, you are by far the biggest offender. Read the whole damn post first, people. Please.

 

[Cameron Smith]

I only stiffed him for the time AFTER he barred me for life. If I did it before, then I deserved to be barred.

I don't think that matters much. If you just finished eating at a restaurant and then the manager tells you to sod off and never return, you would still be expected to pay for the meal.

I know it doesn't seem like stealing because you are not walking off with any of the owners possesions or products, but it is.

Most people here are more concerned with the fact that you stiffed him at all regardless of whether or not you were barred.

 

[Peer]

I think you should be thankful that the owner only banned you -- when you walked off without paying, he could've called the police.

-- peer

 

[jimmy-leggs]

good reply cue,and i sounds like you got some anger management problems you should look into,he had probanly been there all frickin day and just wanted to go home,then some mouth piece starts *****in,what do you expect.have some respect for people who help you enjoy life instead of pissing on him cause he wants to go home,get a life

 

[Deadon]

I only stiffed him for the time AFTER he barred me for life. If I did it before, then I deserved to be barred. You guys need to read the entire post before blabbing on ridiculously about something that happened out of sequence. I WOULD HAVE PAID THE TIME IF HE DIDN'T BARR ME FIRST. Jesus Christ. cueandcushion, you are by far the biggest offender. Read the whole damn post first, people. Please.

Uh.....I think I see the problem here. Perhaps you should read the responses. I think everyone, almost, agreed you owed for the time regardless of when you were barred, and thats how most stated it. I agree. If you use someone elses property, you owe for that use. Nothing justifies not paying regardless of when you were told that you were barred.

Again, just because others don't see it your way is no reason for this comment. CC's comment was timely and appropriate, and clearly he read all of your post. I agree with him completely, as do most.

 

[GADawg]

Uh.....I think I see the problem here. Perhaps you should read the responses. I think everyone, almost, agreed you owed for the time regardless of when you were barred, and thats how most stated it. I agree. If you use someone elses property, you owe for that use. Nothing justifies not paying regardless of when you were told that you were barred.

Again, just because others don't see it your way is no reason for this comment. CC's comment was timely and appropriate, and clearly he read all of your post. I agree with him completely, as do most.

Agree completely also.

In addition, if you had paid for the table time, you might have been able to go back after some time has passed and tempers cooled down and get the bar lifted. Now there is no chance.

 

[supergreenman]

I only stiffed him for the time AFTER he barred me for life. If I did it before, then I deserved to be barred. You guys need to read the entire post before blabbing on ridiculously about something that happened out of sequence. I WOULD HAVE PAID THE TIME IF HE DIDN'T BARR ME FIRST. Jesus Christ. cueandcushion, you are by far the biggest offender. Read the whole damn post first, people. Please.

Oh I get it now, you must be one of those self-rightous people who think it's you're god given right to rip people off.

Have a nice life, Kharma works you know.

 

[MaskedMan]

Oh I get it now, you must be one of those self-rightous people who think it's you're god given right to rip people off.

Have a nice life, Kharma works you know.

supergreenman, what a douchebag you are. He cut me off when he would have let any other regular play until at least 3 or 4 in the morning. I wasn't going to let him humiliate me in front of the remaining people in the room with his ridiculous tirade, and then give him the satisfaction of me paying the time. I'm not a weakling with no self-respect like a lot of people on here who would have given him the cash. I stood up for myself when he was being a ***** to me, like he had been doing for weeks. So screw Roger, supergreenman the douchebag, and any other weak clown who would take Roger's shit and then pay him the time.