Actually, the conspiracy stuff usually gives me a headache, but this seemed obvious, even to me.
Of course, I could very well be wrong, I often am. Doesn't matter either way, much like your original point of the thread.
Should pros be allowed to sell products on the main forum?
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Actually, the conspiracy stuff usually gives me a headache, but this seemed obvious, even to me.
Of course, I could very well be wrong, I often am. Doesn't matter either way, much like your original point of the thread.
Whose interests? All our interests, which is why I posed the question.
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It matters a great deal. There are new posters about who will be easy to influence. I say, if the techniques being sold by the pros are PROVEN to work and UNIQUE, then fine. If they are one of many being sold by many pros, then off to the for sale forum they go.
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Can you point out exactly what it is that's bothering you? Is it CJ? Is it Stevie?
Imo i think anyone who is soliciting on az should at least buy a club membership.
Pangit
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Look at your signature line.....Links to all these "Unmatched protection/choice..your threads about cases...testimonials" Did I miss anything?I know it's hard to be object when you have a red hot iron in this fire.:thumbup:
Donkey Bruce...you are about to become "Pinata Bruce" that's for certain in this.....non commercial forum... Someone will likely channel their inner Patrick Johnson at some point, and I can't wait for it.
I'm just gonna sit on the sidelines and watch this one..:thumbup:Carry on brother, carry on:grin-square:
This is the best post you have ever made, after I fixed a small part.
No they should not. And they most definitely should not be allowed to start up multiple posts pimping the same product.
So they are pros. How does expertise or accomplishment garner a pass? Would it be different if premiere cue-makers started coming here and selling their creations on the main forum AND THEN started up two or three threads on the main page to sell the same cue?
Lou Figueroa
aren't pros part of that pool community? Kind of a ridiculous question if you ask me. It's not like these guys get rich playing pool...or selling their products. I'm glad pros represent themselves here...if not we'd have people like you selling your crap.
Who cares? If the thread bothers you, don't open it. If the poster bothers you, put them on ignore. If the site bothers you that much, don't visit it. I think what's bothering some is the pros get treated a little different. I've had my disagreements with CJ but I have no issue with he and other pros being held to a different standard. Their participation here is clearly good for the site. Since I like visiting here, that's good for me. Consider the big picture.
We don't really need to take action, until the signal-to-noise ratio becomes intolerable.
By my count, only three out of the first 50 threads are blatantly ads (pro or otherwise). That's probably not enough to justify getting out the ruler and slapping a champion's wrist.
There are other areas where I'd rather see them put their focus, such as maybe getting a 2nd mod or fixing the daily timeout errors that didn't used to exist several months ago.
That being said, it's a little disappointing Stevie Moore has apparently joined the site and gone into 'broadcast only mode'. And it could be argued CJ's posts opened the door.
By my count, only three out of the first 50 threads are blatantly ads (pro or otherwise). That's probably not enough to justify getting out the ruler and slapping a champion's wrist.
There are other areas where I'd rather see them put their focus, such as maybe getting a 2nd mod or fixing the daily timeout errors that didn't used to exist several months ago.
That being said, it's a little disappointing Stevie Moore has apparently joined the site and gone into 'broadcast only mode'. And it could be argued CJ's posts opened the door.
Agree.
AZ Forum's problem is similar to the Catholic religion - that is if the Pope announces a decree, it is the deemed the word of God and can never be changed.
If the forum moderators agree to not allow people to sell products on the main forum, then they should stick to their guns. If they let one pro advertise, then they are faced with the delima of deciding who gets free passes and like one poster said, who is a pro and who is not.
CJ, although he is contributing greatly to the forum, has been given a lot of slack. Not only is he advertising he is getting full disclosure on the main forum when in fact his centerball and TOI thread IS AN AIMING THREAD and should be moved to that forum.
I know it's hard to be object when you have a red hot iron in this fire.:thumbup:
Donkey Bruce...you are about to become "Pinata Bruce" that's for certain in this.....non commercial forum... Someone will likely channel their inner Patrick Johnson at some point, and I can't wait for it.
I'm just gonna sit on the sidelines and watch this one..:thumbup:Carry on brother, carry on:grin-square:
Do you even bother to read what I write before you post? I specifically stated my own interest. You can turn signatures off if you don't want to see them.
No one ever said that this is a non-commercial forum. This forum is whatever Mike Howerton wants it to be.
Anytime you are willing to have an open vote about who should stay, you or a pro then have at it. I am sure that the pro won't be voted off the island.
In my opinion you all, and by YOU ALL, I mean those of you who are not pros and who do not produce things in the billiards industry should be VERY HAPPY to have a place where industry professionals and professional players want to come TO YOU to present their products. So instead of YOU having to hunt for the information it's here for you to read about, discuss or ignore as you see fit.
This is like a virtual trade show but one where the vendors have to work hard to get and keep your attention and where they have to EARN your business because they are subject to scrutiny and slander.
It's unreal sometimes where people's heads are at. You have experts here, real experts and you just want to make it so rough on them that they vow to never come back again. I don't get that AT ALL.
In every other forum I am in the pros are welcomed with open arms and treated with civility and respect. Only here does it seem like a small segment gets actual pleasure out of denigrating them. Crazy attitude in my opinion. Then again I have had the fortune to be able to hang out with a lot of pros and know the value of their wisdom and experience.
In the absence of in-person professional instruction I don't see how anyone could not be happy to have pros here to interact with.
There are few things in life that bother me (sickness or death of a loved one, and somebody hassling/jacking with a family member being two things).
Life got a whole lot easier and less stressful when I realized that A.) No point in sweating the big stuff; not much you can do about it anyways, and B.) No point in sweating the small stuff; ain't important enough to worry about anyways.
AZB and it's content are way down on the list of things I would consider "small stuff". Anybody that gets bent out of shape about anything that happens on here probably needs to have a reality check, find out what things in life are REALLY important, and stock one's shelf with things that actually MATTER in one's life.
AZB is really nothing more than a source of information/entertainment.
Maniac
Life got a whole lot easier and less stressful when I realized that A.) No point in sweating the big stuff; not much you can do about it anyways, and B.) No point in sweating the small stuff; ain't important enough to worry about anyways.
AZB and it's content are way down on the list of things I would consider "small stuff". Anybody that gets bent out of shape about anything that happens on here probably needs to have a reality check, find out what things in life are REALLY important, and stock one's shelf with things that actually MATTER in one's life.
AZB is really nothing more than a source of information/entertainment.
Maniac
These are the things that make it so a marketing/sales thread doesn't bother me:
-the OP actually responds to questions, is active in the discussion
-the OP contributes to the forums on a somewhat regular basis
-the OP has purchased a product banner on the site, club membership, etc.
That's about it.
-the OP actually responds to questions, is active in the discussion
-the OP contributes to the forums on a somewhat regular basis
-the OP has purchased a product banner on the site, club membership, etc.
That's about it.
Not "our" call. We don't own the site. Whatever the owners decide to do is fine by me because it is theirs to do with how they chose.
Plus, not really sure having "pros" on the man forum is a bad thing.... kinda thing you would want right ?
You think any pro (in any other sport) participates in the way some do here... NOT a chance.....
i found CJs threads open and full of discussion and great insight (and by far the best thing i've ever seen in the forums)h. And i'd rather learn from someone who knows rather than someone who thinks he knows.