Once again my point s are not understood.
For all the knowledge you guys have and experience I am surprised. Dartman, the only reason guys haven't tried it is because there is a huge lack of open mindedness period. You guys talk all the time but never try anything new. If RKC said it was his new way you would have all been on his band wagon. This forum plays follow the leader and thats good since I guess noone can think for themselves. I ask simple questions and never get answers. And Glen its not about me, its about which way is easier, better, cheaper, and which produces the best results. Just because I don't have a legion of loyal minions doesn't mean my way is wrong or inferior to your method. My system could also be used on the rails if they were designed properly but yet again another thread of mine with no real answers just like my facing thread.
Don't tell me about things, show me. I will give credit at least Glen shows his work. I have showed mine. Tac strips work great and maybe I just have more talent but the fact is I think anyone could put cloth on with them. Why hasn't anyone treid it Dartman is my point and your just reinforcing peoples lack of invention by knocking it when you have NEVER seen it. You are not fair when you make a statement without any information other then your own opinion. Please tell everyone how for fact you know my system is a waste of time just because nonoe else is doing it.
Remember I developed it for various reasons and if you could digest what I wrote without puking up all the new information that you never knew maybe you would realize that it has merit.
When I do a job for a customer I always tell them that I am the best in the country!!!! thats right thats what I said. Once again, there is alot more to being a table mech than meets the eye. But of course if your eyes are closed then you can't see that. Total customer satisfaction is what its all about, not just putting on cloth with bandaids and popsicle sticks. Ok I am warming up now.
I can't imagine where our country would be if all we had was people in it that said, no don't try that this way works the best already. Wait --- oh yeah, I do know where we are in this country.
You think cloth is put on evenly with Glens method? anchor one side, put slack in the middle, pull to the ends. I said it before and I will say it again. This causes undue stress/stretch favoring oneside. Premature ball wear as a result. deeper troughs.
The only goal I have is to put cloth on as tight and evenly possible. You guys can't see that with my method, I am sorry. You will be surprised to learn though that there are somemechs in here that do, IMO those are the ones that will continue to improve. Not because they tried my system but because their willing to try something new.
I will admit my system makes doing the pockets harder then Glen as I don't allow slack. I could give a rats ass on how the inside of the pocket looks. If I wanted I can do bandaids but why. As I said they look 100 times better when the top is off, once the pockets are on, top etc. its almost moot.
For guys doing tables all the time, where are all your pics of this??? You know what I think, Dartman lets see your pockets you finished on that Arcade, that table deserved special treatment. I have backed up all my bullshit. Craig your equation about women and money is missing a key factor, I suggest you go back and rethink your thoughts.
So its easy to trim out pockets, if you did them you would all surely have taken pics to post. Lets see them!!!
I think having a seminar is great, I am going to have one also. I am going to do a poolroom with tac strips. You can come learn my rail extensions, Oh yeah nobody does that either. Oh wait nobody knows how to makes billiard blocks, oh wait nobody knows how to put slate together without super glue, oh wait, noone knows how to stabalize a table for future consistency bla bla blabla bla..
Oh one more thing. If you come to my seminar, I will make a printed agenda to follow and stick to.
It won't be free, you will be working and guess what, You will be getting paid.
And I don't level a table like Glen either.
Glen please don't make statements to me that challenge me unless you want me to accept or challenge. You said that you put cloth on tighter than me, so I said prove it, send me a piece. I mean how is it a waste of time, I said I would gladly pay for it didn't I. How much do you charge to put a piece of bed cloth on??? How long could that take.
It seems like its not that big of a deal to prove a point of this nature.. so once again. At your seminar, mark out a cloth if you would please and send it to me.
In closing, I came back to the forum in the hope of just applauding Glens efforts for a mech\union etc and wanted to clarify a question that I have about specs. Forget all the other stuff,can we establish a spec for min max or NOT?
Its nice to have me back don't you think.
I have been to many seminars and the best part of them that produces results is what they call a "brainstorming session". I don't see that on your outline Glen, why not?
Can't wait to see how all you guys start on me again, you might be surprised though that my camp is getting larger. I know for fact that there are alot of guys in here that do things different. To me thats what the forum should be about, not just saying one way is better but opening it up for trial. If some of you guys were on a jury you would say, guilty just because you feel that way like 12 Angry Men. I hope oyu have a clue of what I speak. If not, well it doesn't matter.
From the time I got in this forum I have had to stand my ground, its not good to be an old dog. Do you get it?
Then they see the finished product and look at you kind of funny and are thinking... "SWEET"
Best thing about it is how easy it is to learn, wish I would have met RKC a long time ago, but glad I did :thumbup:
