Smoking??????

[TATE]

I quit 8 years ago after 30 years of heavy smoking and losing my dad to lung cancer. I really didn't want my youngest daugther to worry about my life or to be around me smoking. Believe it or not, when I was only in my 40's, I had 3 friends who died from lung cancer due to smoking.

Quitting smoking, for me, was hell. In fact, I consider it a miracle. I totally understand the behavior of drug addicts, because I was one.

Getting my cardiovascular system back in shape has become a big priority, so I run distance regularly (now when the weather's good). I used to get bronchitis regularly, one or twice a year, after just about each and every cold. I haven't had bronchitis once since I started running. There is always a concern that my former smoking will cause future problems, but so be it.

My drug of choice now is Pinot Noir, Santa Rita Hills, and a plate of aged cheddar.

Chris

 

[thebigdog]

Not for long

It's the #1 preventable cause of death. Does that ring a bell? Cause a light bulb in your head to come on? To see parents smoking around their babies is one major turn-off for me, "What are they thinking"!

It will be knocked off by heart diesease and diabetes in a few years. Its just as big a problem as parents raising their kids on fast food and frozen pre packaged meals. Yes I do agree that people should not be smoking around their kids, I see it all the time here in Tx. they even smoke holding newborns around here.

 

[CaptiveBred]

a woman who will stick a cigarette will put anything in her mouth! Its true!


Unless its green, smokers are disgusting... What a disturbing habit /sigh


And, for god's sake, do something about the way you (smokers) smell... Really, you stink pretty bad...

 

[TATE]

2 months for me. Feeling better already

Congrats to you! That was about the best thing I've done for myself too. The funny thing is, I just kept feeling better and better for several years. It's so nice to be relaxed and to enjoy life free from addiction.

Chris

 

[softshot]

And I ask you to compare smokers to non-smokers and see who's percentage is higher that have died from a smoking related illness.

100% of smokers WILL DIE

100% of nonsmokers WILL DIE

many will die of cancer .... most will die from something else.

I would love to see a study of two groups

One who lives a clean perfect life.... except eats a big mac every day.

compared with a large group of us who lead reasonably healthy lives except we smoke.

I think the results would surprise alot of people.

 

[DeadPoked]

100% of smokers WILL DIE

100% of nonsmokers WILL DIE

many will die of cancer .... most will die from something else.

I would love to see a study of two groups

One who lives a clean perfect life.... except eats a big mac every day.

compared with a large group of us who lead reasonably healthy lives except we smoke.

I think the results would surprise alot of people.

You are correct, for once, 100% of every living thing in the world will die. Difference being...

"Smokers are killed, prematurely killed, dying commonly years before nonsmokers. Male smokers lost an average of 13.2 years of life. Female smokers lose 14.5 years of life.?NVSR 49, No. 3, U.S. Centers for Disease Control (6-26-2001). "

1 in 2 lifetime smokers will die from a smoking related illness. Amazing statistic when you consider that smokers also die of many other things before the cigarette even has a chance to kill them.

May as well just flip a coin to see if you live or die. Call it... heads or tails?

 

[oldroller]

How in hell

Can FB take care of business when he's on here non-stop ???

 

[Alex Kanapilly]

Another wife story

Since I just did the drig poll, I figured I would go the smoking route, I promis no more polls for along time.

I have never smoked anything ever once in my life, If I could I would smoke weed, It would probably be good for me but I hate smoke so much that I'll never do it, the Cigar image is cool as I'm a businessman(I know thats hard to believe) but I am. still no cigar for me, who the hell under 70 years old smokes a pipe with tabacco in it now days?

i lost my mom to smoking about 3 years ago, and I'm still not 2% over losing her, I might never be right because of that. If I was married and my wife started smoking anything I would file for divorce that day, I couldnt careless about the $$$ etc. I cant suffer the pain of losing anyone else to that. EVER. When I see friends smoke it hurts me, so there it is Fatboys Achelles heel.

I used to smoke two packs a day but I quit. I had always told my wife that I'd quit when she got pregnant. One days she says "hey, I'm pregnant. So you're going to quit smoking right?" I asked for one month to "get ready". She said no problem and I didn't hear about it for exactly a month. I thought she had forgotten about it. Then one day she throws a box of nicotine patches at me and says, "OK, you're quitting today". So, I go into the bathroom, smoke two quick cigarettes and put the patch on. That was 12 years ago last October and I'm still cigarette free.

BTW, you have some pretty crazy dreams if you sleep with the patch on. I have thought about getting some patches just to put on over night, but I've never done it.

I just came back from the Bahamas and smoked a few Cuban cigars. I'm not into cigars (I might have one or two a year, when somoene gives me one) but those Cubans were really nice, very smooth.

 

[Fatboy]

I quit 8 years ago after 30 years of heavy smoking and losing my dad to lung cancer. I really didn't want my youngest daugther to worry about my life or to be around me smoking. Believe it or not, when I was only in my 40's, I had 3 friends who died from lung cancer due to smoking.

Chris

i begged my mom for 30 years to stop for that very reason, she never listened.

 

[Fatboy]

May as well just flip a coin to see if you live or die. Call it... heads or tails?

tails for $5,000

 

[Joe Rogan]

I went through the hell of throat cancer 6 years ago due to second hand smoke, and I never smoked cigarettes. I wonder why people have such a fetish of putting those little white phalic symbols in their mouth ??

Perhaps they just need to get honest with themselves and come out
of the closet.

A cigarette smoker is a co*ksu*ker.

Wow, you got cancer from second hand smoke? Is that from pool halls?
That's terrible. Cigarettes are a horrible habit.
They kill 400,000 people every year. It's really unbelievable that the government lets cigarettes be legal and puts people in a cage for marijuana, a plant that's killed ZERO people in over 10,000 years of use.

 

[SJDinPHX]

Lost my person I agreed with !!!

You are exactly right. To take it one step further,if you worked in a down-
town big city, and you went out for lunch every day,you would inhale more
cancer causing carcinogens(from busses,cars etc.) than if you smoked (and inhaled) a carton of cigarettes. Get real, its not cigs that do you in
its your enviroment. Stupid, expensive habit but, it's the only thing I do
real well.

 

[SJDinPHX]

duplicate post

 

[Ktown D]

It's really unbelievable that the government lets cigarettes be legal and puts people in a cage for marijuana, a plant that's killed ZERO people in over 10,000 years of use.

Puff, Puff, Give.......glad to see you are an out of the closet herbalist.

 

[DeadPoked]

tails for $5,000

I agreed to your bet and flipped the coin... I was really sweatin' it but it ended up landing on heads. Wheh!

Paypal?

 

[ccshrimper]

Wow, you got cancer from second hand smoke? Is that from pool halls?
That's terrible. Cigarettes are a horrible habit.
They kill 400,000 people every year. It's really unbelievable that the government lets cigarettes be legal and puts people in a cage for marijuana, a plant that's killed ZERO people in over 10,000 years of use.

Don't know if I totally agree with that statement since I have seen people stoned cause accidents while driving but I get your point.

Back to smoking cigarettes... In December I watched my golden gloves champ uncle die of cancer. If you've ever watched someone wither away from cancer, you'd know it's about as horrible a death as humanly possible. He vomited almost everything he ate for 2 years after he was diagnosed. My uncle went from 170lbs. to about 90 pounds. The last month of his life he was unable to have any nourishment (not even from a tube NOTHING) but he wanted to spend one last Christmas with his 12 year old son. He died 3 days later, 2 days after turning 50 years of age. You could see every bone in his body and his belly was more swollen than the Ethiopian kids you see on TV. He had seizures when he was a kid and his last minutes were one seizure after another until he died.

What's this have to do with pool. I looked back on my life of being in pool halls from the age of 14 and thought of all the times I gagged when I picked up my dirty clothes the next day and they smelled like an ashtray. I've never smoked anything but I doubt my health would be much worse if I had after a life in the smokiest places imaginable. Now, instead of going out drinking with my friends at the pool halls 3-5 days a week I've been there twice since my uncle's death just to see my friends. I'm sure it's just the natural shock and emotion of losing someone close to me and I'll probably be back in the pool halls just like before, but I hope not.

 

[ScottW]

i begged my mom for 30 years to stop for that very reason, she never listened.

Same here.

Lost her two years ago, Jan 14th, to emphysema, brought on by smoking.

Suck on THAT, defenders of smoking.

 

[WORKING MAN]

my .02

if smoking only hurt the people doing it there would be no problems with it, but it hurts every one around,also it is your choice to smoke and mine not to, but when i am around smokers i have no choice because the smoke goes in every direction and i have to breathe it if i like it or not,and believe me i do not like it. it smells like sh*t and have you ever had to talk face to face with a smoker P.U. skunk breathe.

 

[Jaden]

actually it is your argument that is deficient and fallacial.

ok???? so I make a solid argument... you have no rebuttal... therefore I'm gay?


cool....

thanks for playing, but your no longer worth my time.

You can't arugue that because there are thousands of things out there that does something, that it is less valid a claim that the one that you choose to do that contributes to something isn't selfish and destructive.

That would be like saying, "hey. you know. there are more deaths caused in car accidents by defective car parts than drunk driving, so you can't blaim me for killing someone because I drive drunk sometimes..."

The answer is that it is selfish to smoke in public and by being selfish, it is evil.

There is a quote that is often misquoted and that is " The love of money is the root of all evil". It is often misquoted as "Money is the root of all evil". The love of money is selfishness, it is therefore logically valid to state that selfishness is the root of all evil and an act that is selfish, IS evil.

It is selfish to put others in jeopardy in order to satiate one's own lust, therefore it is selfish to smoke in public. Period, end of story. This is not something that is up for debate. If you can't live with it, then do something about it.

In answer to the original post. I smoked for several years when I was younger because I thought it was cool. I realized one day about a dozen or so years ago that it wasn't, so I quit smoking and drinking and have not done so since nor will I ever do it again. I lost two grand parents and one within the last several months to cancer linked with smoking and it is the most horrific thing that I can imagine anyone going through.

Drinking is not much better. It causes extensive liver damage over long periods and slowly kills off the liver. As it dies, the dead liver tissue expands putting pressure on the spine and causing low back pain. The stomach muscles autonomously push outwarsd to allow the liver to slide forward andrelieve the pressure from the spine causing the belly to protrude. So for those of you who are proud to have a "beer belly" Now you know that what causes it is your liver slowly dieing, so have fun developing that beer belly of yours and dieing a slow miserable death.

Same with you smokers who just don't have the desire to stop smoking, and it is just that, I don't want to hear about how it is so addictive, you can't quit because I did. Your death will be even worse.

And you are right about so many things causing cancer. I stay away from deep fried foods, aspertame containing foods and drinks and high fructose corn syrup containing foods too. What do you know, there were some good things in KT's books....lol.....

 

[Jaden]

Yeah Shane it was a shock to me and difficult to deal with while I was there.

Don't know if I totally agree with that statement since I have seen people stoned cause accidents while driving but I get your point.

Back to smoking cigarettes... In December I watched my golden gloves champ uncle die of cancer. If you've ever watched someone wither away from cancer, you'd know it's about as horrible a death as humanly possible. He vomited almost everything he ate for 2 years after he was diagnosed. My uncle went from 170lbs. to about 90 pounds. The last month of his life he was unable to have any nourishment (not even from a tube NOTHING) but he wanted to spend one last Christmas with his 12 year old son. He died 3 days later, 2 days after turning 50 years of age. You could see every bone in his body and his belly was more swollen than the Ethiopian kids you see on TV. He had seizures when he was a kid and his last minutes were one seizure after another until he died.

What's this have to do with pool. I looked back on my life of being in pool halls from the age of 14 and thought of all the times I gagged when I picked up my dirty clothes the next day and they smelled like an ashtray. I've never smoked anything but I doubt my health would be much worse if I had after a life in the smokiest places imaginable. Now, instead of going out drinking with my friends at the pool halls 3-5 days a week I've been there twice since my uncle's death just to see my friends. I'm sure it's just the natural shock and emotion of losing someone close to me and I'll probably be back in the pool halls just like before, but I hope not.

I can attest to this having just gotten back from playing in some of the pool halls that Shane plays in. The smoke filled rooms of states outside of Cali are crazily filled with smoke. When I mentioned that I was having a hard time dealing with the smoke, one of the local players there started chain smoking during our match and blowing the smoke out over the table on purpose just to try and get to me. He was lucky I didn't knock him out.