So many "A" Players in streaming chatrooms

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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Did you ever notice how many "A" players are in the streaming chatrooms (mostly the free ones)?
It really gets old watching them tell the rest of the chatroom how he or she pro should play the shot. After a miss it's, he or she dogged it, he/she never should have shot that shot like that, play safe, go 3-rails, and on and on and on. Funny how the ones their telling how to shoot are playing in big tournaments and are pros. Meanwhile these "chatroom pros" are in a streaming chatroom for 8 or more hours a day and night, not out playing pool. How do they get to be an "A" players sitting in the chatrooms all day and night?

OK, I'm done. Johnnyt
 
It's always easy to be an arm chair pool player.

I'd imagine that if anyone video taped themselves they would be wondering what the hell they were doing
 
The thing that gets me is that 95% of the "A" chatters would get hammered by the very ones their trying to tell how to shoot. I've seen a lot of them in regional tournaments, home videos, and in the AZ room at DCC. Most need to work on their game a lot more before they try and tell a A. Fisher or a top tier male pro how to shoot. I guess they think their impressing the chatroom.

Before anyone says anything, I know I'm just an "B" player ("B+" on a good day) but you'll never hear me trying to tell everyone in the chat how a pro should or should have played a shot. I might say "ouch" when someone misses a very makeable shot, or hit a bad shot, but that's it. OK, I feel better now. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
The thing that gets me is that 95% of the "A" chatters would get hammered by the very ones their trying to tell how to shoot. I've seen a lot of them in regional tournaments, home videos, and in the AZ room at DCC. Most need to work on their game a lot more before they try and tell a A. Fisher or a top tier male pro how to shoot. I guess they think their impressing the chatroom.

Before anyone says anything, I know I'm just an "B" player ("B+" on a good day) but you'll never hear me trying to tell everyone in the chat how a pro should or should have played a shot. I might say "ouch" when someone misses a very makeable shot, or hit a bad shot, but that's it. OK, I feel better now. Johnnyt
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dont let it bother you the pros dont,they feel smart for a bit lol.and half the time i hear them suggest a way to get on a ball its wrong i laugh to myself.im a b player also but will play an a and hold my own on a good day.let them have there fun brush it off johnny t.
 
I wouldn't consider myself an "A"-player at all, but I am watching most of the streams, and I often share the "knowledge" I got.

Sorry if it offends any of you :cool:

Anyway, sometimes I know I am correct - and the pros are not.

For example this shot came up at the WPBA-stream, and the player chose the wrong shot. It was a kick-shot.

Yes, she did hit the ball, but it was the wrong shot.

Here it is:
The black line was her choice, blue was the one I suggested.

With the black line the % of leaving a shot for your opponent is HIGH, you will almost always leave a shot. By using my path the chance of something good happening after the hit is HUGE. You can either hide the cueball or the objectball behind the other balls, or you can get long distance.

So, sometimes the lower ranked players do know better than the pros. IMO

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Roy Steffensen said:
I wouldn't consider myself an "A"-player at all, but I am watching most of the streams, and I often share the "knowledge" I got.

Sorry if it offends any of you :cool:

Anyway, sometimes I know I am correct - and the pros are not.

For example this shot came up at the WPBA-stream, and the player chose the wrong shot. It was a kick-shot.

Yes, she did hit the ball, but it was the wrong shot.

Here it is:
The black line was her choice, blue was the one I suggested.
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I am going to go out on a limb and say that your option was probably not available. From the perspective of the stream camera, it would be hard to tell, but perhaps the 3 was in the way..?? I seems to me that most players would choose your option first, if it were there.
 
Johnnyt said:
Did you ever notice how many "A" players are in the streaming chatrooms (mostly the free ones)?
It really gets old watching them tell the rest of the chatroom how he or she pro should play the shot. After a miss it's, he or she dogged it, he/she never should have shot that shot like that, play safe, go 3-rails, and on and on and on. Funny how the ones their telling how to shoot are playing in big tournaments and are pros. Meanwhile these "chatroom pros" are in a streaming chatroom for 8 or more hours a day and night, not out playing pool. How do they get to be an "A" players sitting in the chatrooms all day and night?

OK, I'm done. Johnnyt
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Johnnyt I just try and ignore them. It's just not in the streams but in forums also. Just take it with a grain of salt and enjoy watching the stream.
 
Johnnyt said:
Did you ever notice how many "A" players are in the streaming chatrooms (mostly the free ones)?
It really gets old watching them tell the rest of the chatroom how he or she pro should play the shot. After a miss it's, he or she dogged it, he/she never should have shot that shot like that, play safe, go 3-rails, and on and on and on. Funny how the ones their telling how to shoot are playing in big tournaments and are pros. Meanwhile these "chatroom pros" are in a streaming chatroom for 8 or more hours a day and night, not out playing pool. How do they get to be an "A" players sitting in the chatrooms all day and night?
OK, I'm done. Johnnyt
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The same way you did I would guess.
 
guys-you gotta relax

the correct shot in that scenario was the one that the paid proffesional
shot(we werent present_to know table conditions)
kicks and return safties are usually visual ideas in the players head as to what will happen if i do this
so if a player approaches a kick or safety with no chance of pocketing a ball or having only one side to kick from or shoot from
they may opt for what they are more comfortable with:short rail first or coming from behind a ball
Roys example is not a good one for this argument because there are multiple options(no disrespect )
its the right shot-if you win with it,you regain control-or it gaurantees you another chance at the table
 
It may not seem right and it and may even be a little bit annoying. But you have to either ignore it, or learn to not let it bother you.

This comes up in a lot of areas, it doesn't matter what part of life it is. A football team loses a game and a spectator says "they played like crap today". One of the players would respond, "so I guess you think you could do better. Why don't you get out on the field?".

The truth is, you do not need to be a pro to have an opinion on something. That's the way it is, and I think it is time you got over that. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. If you stay in the chatroom, you are exposing yourself to a plethora of opinions.

Either get used to it or leave the chatroom, but complaining about it will not help the situation.
 
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I agree

s0lidz said:
It may not seem right and it and may even be a little bit annoying. But you have to either ignore it, or learn to not let it bother you.

This comes up in a lot of areas, it doesn't matter what part of life it is. A football team loses a game and a spectator says "they played like crap today". One of the players would respond, "so I guess you think you could do better. Why don't you get out on the field?".

The truth is, you do not need to be a pro to have an opinion on something.
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Everyone has opinions and is entitled to them. As it happens I was discussing shot selection with a local shortstop the other day. We both agreed that the shot that seemed best to the player at that moment was the best shot. Like the rule always cut instead of bank, sometimes you "see" the bank but don't "see" the cut. In that case the shot you are more comfortable with is the better shot regardless of the rule of thumb.

The arm chair experts will always be with us and I think there is a little bit of armchair expert in all of us. When I drove circle track one of the prices I paid was listening politely to the fans telling me what I should have done after every race. The equipment under me and the other drivers had a little bit to say about what I could have done but I learned it was best to smile, listen politely, and agree. It made for happy fans and didn't cost me anything but a little ego damage that seemingly half the people in the stands figured they could drive better than me! :D

Hu
 
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I feel what you're saying Johnny... but I agree with solidz, people are always gonna have opinions and sometimes they will want to share them with the rest of the world. Think of it as 'talking shop' about the game we all love. If you don't talk about how to play shots, there's not a whole lot left to discuss in the chatroom except small talk and "so-and-so is hitting 'em good today".

I think the way they present their opinion is the key... you gotta admit it's just one opinion and the pro (and other chatters) may be right too.

Ok:
"Hmm, I wonder why he shot that with low outside? It looks like there'd be no way to beat that scratch. I think it woulda been safer to try high inside."

No:
"haha I can't believe he shot that with low outside, what a frigging idiot. It's an obvious scratch. Everyone knows you hit that with high inside."
 
It's just a chat room...

and you can usually go full screen with the match if you want to. Mostly people just like to 'chat' about what they see and hear other's views on it.
That's how we learn.... we discuss things. Others may just be trying to inflate egos.... but who cares about them.

I KNOW one thing though.... the view from the screen is vastly different from the one AT the table. Trying to get my mindset to be the same in both situations is my journey in the game, and the fun for me. JMO

td
 
Roy...I beg to differ with you. There is no right or wrong way to play any shot. There are at least 6 ways to play any shot. Expert players/pros know all six ways, and can execute all six ways. Which one they choose depends on many variables. Just because they failed to execute perfectly doesn't mean they chose the wrong shot, or the wrong way to shoot the shot. It just means they missed.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Roy Steffensen said:
Anyway, sometimes I know I am correct - and the pros are not.
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Roy Steffensen said:
I wouldn't consider myself an "A"-player at all, but I am watching most of the streams, and I often share the "knowledge" I got.

Sorry if it offends any of you :cool:

Anyway, sometimes I know I am correct - and the pros are not.

For example this shot came up at the WPBA-stream, and the player chose the wrong shot. It was a kick-shot.

Yes, she did hit the ball, but it was the wrong shot.

Here it is:
The black line was her choice, blue was the one I suggested.

With the black line the % of leaving a shot for your opponent is HIGH, you will almost always leave a shot. By using my path the chance of something good happening after the hit is HUGE. You can either hide the cueball or the objectball behind the other balls, or you can get long distance.

So, sometimes the lower ranked players do know better than the pros. IMO

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Looks to me like your option has A HIGH % of not hitting a rail after contact.
BTW-I just watch full screen without the chat 80% of the time-same with online poker.:thumbup:
 
jasonlaus said:
Looks to me like your option has A HIGH % of not hitting a rail after contact.
BTW-I just watch full screen without the chat 80% of the time-same with online poker.:thumbup:
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IMO if both routes are available to me I would select Roys option. The choice selected by the player not only does it have a chance to leave a shot but it has a high degree of danger in respect to the cue ball scratching. There appears to be a few ways for that to happen.

You're are correct that Roys choice has to be hit firmer but I would rather take my chances with that. The only other draw back with Roys choice is that the one ball would most likely be positioned into the area of the nine ball.

In reference to the chat room, thats what it was intended to be. A chat room. We have the option to turn it off or block it out.
 
Roy Steffensen said:
I wouldn't consider myself an "A"-player at all, but I am watching most of the streams, and I often share the "knowledge" I got.

Sorry if it offends any of you :cool:

Anyway, sometimes I know I am correct - and the pros are not.

For example this shot came up at the WPBA-stream, and the player chose the wrong shot. It was a kick-shot.

Yes, she did hit the ball, but it was the wrong shot.

Here it is:
The black line was her choice, blue was the one I suggested.

With the black line the % of leaving a shot for your opponent is HIGH, you will almost always leave a shot. By using my path the chance of something good happening after the hit is HUGE. You can either hide the cueball or the objectball behind the other balls, or you can get long distance.

So, sometimes the lower ranked players do know better than the pros. IMO

CueTable Help

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The only difference to me is the pros kick to make balls or for leaves not just to hit the ball. If who ever hit just 1" more toward the pocket there was a good chance of making the ball in the corner.
 
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