SO, Whats your thoughts on the JB Case Video?

Here's what I don't understand:

Both guys make cases that are well liked by their customers. And both guys have their avid fans that will stand behind them until the end. When it comes to word of mouth for the newer custom case buyers, there will be a SLEW of people who say 'JB Cases' and a slew who say 'Justis cases'.

Jon and Jack both have a business that seems to sustain itself based on their reputation and their product. So why do either of them need to engage in a 'mine is better than yours' battle???

Sell your product. Sell it based on its benefits. Not the shortcomings of the other products in the market. You both do a disservice to yourselves by participating in this chidlish argument. I mean, do you really need to make videos to slam the competition?
 
Alright folks - I am done for a while. Discuss amongst yourselves. I will be doing more vids but away from az for a while. I will try to catch up on the PMs and am deifintely going to be working very hard to catch up on the designs.

To all my customers whom I owe cases to and have generously been silent concerning my tardiness throughout this saga, thank you and your patience shall be rewarded.

Mr. Justis, I do wish you well in your continued case making. I hope that you find someone to take it over when you finally don't want to do it anymore. We are just at opposite ends when it comes to what we each feel the interior should be.

Having dissected and inspected your case thoroughly sir I have to say that we agree completely on the quality of the exterior construction. You make an excellent product in that regard and as always I can learn from you.

Best to you all.

John Barton
 
I just think his close tolerance interiors will eventually cause more harm than good.[/COLOR]

Jack can you explain this in more detail? I'm very interested in what your thoughts are on the close tolerance interiors causing more harm than good.[/QUOTE]

You wouldn't get it even if I explained it. I know you and John sleep together so don't bait me, bro.
 
Alright folks - I am done for a while. Discuss amongst yourselves. I will be doing more vids but away from az for a while. I will try to catch up on the PMs and am deifintely going to be working very hard to catch up on the designs.

To all my customers whom I owe cases to and have generously been silent concerning my tardiness throughout this saga, thank you and your patience shall be rewarded.

Mr. Justis, I do wish you well in your continued case making. I hope that you find someone to take it over when you finally don't want to do it anymore. We are just at opposite ends when it comes to what we each feel the interior should be.

Having dissected and inspected your case thoroughly sir I have to say that we agree completely on the quality of the exterior construction. You make an excellent product in that regard and as always I can learn from you.

Best to you all.

John Barton


Why John, what a very nice thing to say. I will have to admit that your interiors are looking better all the time. Its nice to have these case wars every once in a while and believe it or not its good for business. Just today I have gotten 3 new orders. How many did you get so far? We have to be careful doing this though or our customers will catch on and ruin our fun.

Sorry you will not be making it to the DCC but look forward seeing you at the SBE.

Best to everyone reading this,

Jack Justis
 
Alright folks - I am done for a while. Discuss amongst yourselves. I will be doing more vids but away from az for a while. I will try to catch up on the PMs and am deifintely going to be working very hard to catch up on the designs.

To all my customers whom I owe cases to and have generously been silent concerning my tardiness throughout this saga, thank you and your patience shall be rewarded.

Mr. Justis, I do wish you well in your continued case making. I hope that you find someone to take it over when you finally don't want to do it anymore. We are just at opposite ends when it comes to what we each feel the interior should be.

Having dissected and inspected your case thoroughly sir I have to say that we agree completely on the quality of the exterior construction. You make an excellent product in that regard and as always I can learn from you.

Best to you all.

John Barton
Should I cancel the order for this shirt then John?, it was going to be your Christmas gift. :p
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Why John, what a very nice thing to say. I will have to admit that your interiors are looking better all the time. Its nice to have these case wars every once in a while and believe it or not its good for business. Just today I have gotten 3 new orders. How many did you get so far? We have to be careful doing this though or our customers will catch on and ruin our fun.

Sorry you will not be making it to the DCC but look forward seeing you at the SBE.

Best to everyone reading this,

Jack Justis

Maybe we can all have a meet and greet at SBE, best to stay away from the booze though and just have a group hug. :grin:
 
Maybe we can all have a meet and greet at SBE, best to stay away from the booze though and just have a group hug. :grin:

Good idea. I think Jimbo is making his guess list and I will make sure you and John get invited. All this crap has gone on long enough.
 
Jack can you explain this in more detail? I'm very interested in what your thoughts are on the close tolerance interiors causing more harm than good.

You wouldn't get it even if I explained it. I know you and John sleep together so don't bait me, bro.[/QUOTE]

WOW not sure where that came from. I do not know John, have never spoken to him in anyway that I remember. You do not know me although I have spoken to you many times at many tournaments. I have owned a few of you cases over the years and never owned anything that Mr Barton has made or been a part of. Thanks for insulting me.

Thanks
Boradriver
(so glad I decided to ask a question)
 
You wouldn't get it even if I explained it. I know you and John sleep together so don't bait me, bro.

WOW not sure where that came from. I do not know John, have never spoken to him in anyway that I remember. You do not know me although I have spoken to you many times at many tournaments. I have owned a few of you cases over the years and never owned anything that Mr Barton has made or been a part of. Thanks for insulting me.

Thanks
Boradriver
(so glad I decided to ask a question)[/QUOTE]

Serves you right for not telling me who you really are. Next time post your real name and come out of the closet.
 
WOW not sure where that came from. I do not know John, have never spoken to him in anyway that I remember. You do not know me although I have spoken to you many times at many tournaments. I have owned a few of you cases over the years and never owned anything that Mr Barton has made or been a part of. Thanks for insulting me.

Thanks
Boradriver
(so glad I decided to ask a question)

Serves you right for not telling me who you really are. Next time post your real name and come out of the closet.[/QUOTE]


Glad Jack is having fun today insulting me. I have never hidden my name just use the name boradriver on many forums from my old VW days.

Thanks
Cliff Tyler

(didn't know I needed to submit a resume to ask questions on AZ)
 
I personally think that this subject is like taking a microscope to something like PC vs. Mac or Pepsi vs. Coke

There is an unlimited number of possibilities and circumstances where one product can be represented in both positive and negative ways. It reminds me of election time where you are bombarded with TV commercials where one politician is bashing the other with those ridiculous negative ad campaigns.

Personally, I think the video was clouded with emotion. It is clear because of the nervous energy and lack of focus felt during presentation. John knows in his heart what he is doing is wrong. People never make good decisions and perform well under clouded emotion. Also, the video was scattered all over the place and was without focus even though it did cover some key points. It also conveniently left out some important key points, like damage to the cues, and demonstration of a JB case or other top case makers for that matter. At times, it reminded me of a slick infomercial where one product was compared to another creatively and cleverly showing the downfalls of one product in areas that really weren't necessary.

The purpose of an informational or educational video is to provide the most factual information on the presented topic covered in the least amount of time possible with the least amount of distraction. I was somewhat irritated by watching the video. The image and level of respect I had for John Barton and his intellect has been stained with this crap. This case war BS is doing nothing but making both case makers look bad, and for what reason? To prove that mine is better than yours? Put your product out there, and let the chips fall where they may. That is how it's supposed to be. In case that wasn't clear enough, let the work speak for itself, and let the consumer do the bragging or criticizing for you.......... and more importantly, Grow up!

I think people are smart enough to make up their own minds when it comes to cue cases. I don't believe it has to be all this complicated. You don't have to have that much protection unless you are traveling extensively or are simply a careless person. Pool players in general, especially the experienced ones know how to take care of their stuff......... period.

They have nice stuff, and take care of it. It's that simple.


No cue case is going to cause your cue to be damaged unless you are careless about it. If you go driving down a bumpy road, that is your fault. If you check your case through baggage and don't secure your cues in the case properly, knowing that your case is getting tossed around, that is your fault. If you leave your cue case on the table with the pins up, case either open or closed, and it gets tipped over from four feet no matter who tips it over, that is still your fault for leaving it like that. How can you blame something like that on the case maker? That is so ridiculously ignorant, it makes my both a$$ cheeks itch at the same time.

There is a percentage that something careless will most likely happen and that is what JB seems to be about. There are those who will prevent carelessness as well as appreciate fine craftsmanship, and I believe that is what a Justis case appears to define.

Most people who have nice cues also have joint protectors as well. I would assume those who are going to spend the money on a nice Justis case would also have a nice cue and would thus have the brains to either put a joint protector on that cue, or have good enough judgement to leave the case and/or cues so that they have the lowest chance of careless damage happening.

As far as the pin going in one direction or the other, the reason Jack tells us to store the cue that way is because that is the way we carry the case. We don't carry the case upside down. As far as dropping the case, who in the hell is going to let that happen? Who in the hell is going to shake their case like that? If you are traveling and forsee that your cues will be shaken that much, wrap some padding around them. It is called common sense.

I think for people to be shown that kind of footage is somewhat demeaning to both the consumer and Jack Justis and also insults people's intellect. This shows just how much Jack Justis' success is getting to John Barton.

That's a helluva post there! Great summary.

I like you, you subscribe to the common sense theory. I wish common sense was........ common
 
No cue case is going to cause your cue to be damaged unless you are careless about it. If you go driving down a bumpy road, that is your fault. If you check your case through baggage and don't secure your cues in the case properly, knowing that your case is getting tossed around, that is your fault.

The first is a little odd, seriously now a person who perhaps lives in a neighborhood where the roads are not perfect is at fault for causing damage to their cue? A person who lives on an acerage and must drive over a gravel road is at fault for not doing what exactly, buying a hovercraft?

In the second situation, checking your cues into baggage, the trick is not packing the case into the luggage properly, it is putting the cues into the case such that the cues will not be damaged inside the case, and atm in a justis that would require a serious modification to the interior, adding foam rubber to the wood base of the case, adding fabric sleeves to the butts BEFORE you slide them into the case, adding something to the top of the case that stops the cues from sliding up and hitting the top of the case. And you simply should not have to go through all that hassle and guess what, you probably just lost your warranty for all that trouble you went through to protect your cues in a Justis you checked into baggage...

The reality is the only fault a person has in their cues being damaged in the case while driving over a bumpy road or when checked into baggage is buying a Justis in the first place. If a cue case cannot protect a cue under those normal situations then it is not good enough because there are other cases that will not allow the cue to be damaged in the slightest under those same situations.

I can just imagine how easy it would be to get that warranty coverage on your $8,000 cue from Jack.

Customer "uhh, heya Jack my cue has a bent pin and cracked ivory joint from a trip through baggage handling my cues took in my $600 Justis case, I am the original owner of the case and it is not modified at all. TopEndOriginalCueMaker says it will cost $1,200 to fix the damage, and that the cue might not quite play like it once did as damage like this can often irreversibly affect the hit."

Jack "Hmm, what proof do you have that my case caused the damage"

Customer "well the cue was fine when I checked it into baggage in the Justis case, and when I got the luggage on the other end the cue was damaged and the lid of the case has sections where the pin clearly hit the top of the case"

Jack "you did not have joint protectors on the cue then, that is not my fault or problem, I am not paying for the cue fix"

Customer "you never said joint protectors were required in a Justis case to protect the cues..."

Jack "true enough, I will jump on to AZB and post that right now, have a nice day and good luck getting that cue fixed. Remember to get some joint protectors!"

Customer "..."


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Serves you right for not telling me who you really are. Next time post your real name and come out of the closet.


Glad Jack is having fun today insulting me. I have never hidden my name just use the name boradriver on many forums from my old VW days.

Thanks
Cliff Tyler

(didn't know I needed to submit a resume to ask questions on AZ)[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I just have this thing about people posting under an assumed name.
Its like you have something to hide. I will personally kneel down and ask for forgiveness if you stop by our booth at the DCC. I'm normally not this hard to get along with, but with all the drama over the last few days, its taken its toll on me.
 
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Glad Jack is having fun today insulting me. I have never hidden my name just use the name boradriver on many forums from my old VW days.

Thanks
Cliff Tyler

(didn't know I needed to submit a resume to ask questions on AZ)

Sorry, I just have this thing about people posting under an assumed name.
Its like you have something to hide. I will personally kneel down and ask for forgiveness if you stop by our booth at the DCC. I'm normally not this hard to get along with, but with all the drama over the last few days, its taken its toll on me.
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For what its worth Jack..I think you make a nice case...and I did not mean anything pesonal by what I have said....I do like both you and JB! And not in a kissy kinda way either:cool:
 
I think Justis cases are beautiful. I think the pockets are stiff and difficult to access and I don't think the case is as protective as a JB interior. I very much dislike the rivets on any case. Tacky.

I'll be looking for a Replica Brown oil tanned or Nappa Brown 2x4 GTF.
 
Well, I missed the live broadcast, but watched the recorded version.

My review? Very informative, in it's weird way and my personal intake is that JB is very passionate about his work, just as JJ is to his. They are both very talented and have their own unique style - I wish all this would just go away. No one is going to come out of this looking like a winner if this goes on.

WILL I STOP PLAYING POOL after watching this demo?
..... very well possibly... with all the "what if (s)?" it's a danger just to walk into a pool room. I know I've dodged a flying cue ball many times before and was very lucky that I didn't get knocked out!

If I decided to still play pool and take a chances with my life, then will I still use Justis Pro Lite like I have been all along ? My Pro Lite was purchased Jan 07 and I've been on over 30 flights, most of the time not even using any joint protectors.
.... Probably so... why? Heck, I don't see nothing wrong with it and I like to leave dangerously : )

Will I complain if my cues get damaged due to a poor construction of a case?
YOU BET YOUR A$$ I will!

S.
 
The first is a little odd, seriously now a person who perhaps lives in a neighborhood where the roads are not perfect is at fault for causing damage to their cue? A person who lives on an acerage and must drive over a gravel road is at fault for not doing what exactly, buying a hovercraft?

In the second situation, checking your cues into baggage, the trick is not packing the case into the luggage properly, it is putting the cues into the case such that the cues will not be damaged inside the case, and atm in a justis that would require a serious modification to the interior, adding foam rubber to the wood base of the case, adding fabric sleeves to the butts BEFORE you slide them into the case, adding something to the top of the case that stops the cues from sliding up and hitting the top of the case. And you simply should not have to go through all that hassle and guess what, you probably just lost your warranty for all that trouble you went through to protect your cues in a Justis you checked into baggage...

The reality is the only fault a person has in their cues being damaged in the case while driving over a bumpy road or when checked into baggage is buying a Justis in the first place. If a cue case cannot protect a cue under those normal situations then it is not good enough because there are other cases that will not allow the cue to be damaged in the slightest under those same situations.

I can just imagine how easy it would be to get that warranty coverage on your $8,000 cue from Jack.

Customer "uhh, heya Jack my cue has a bent pin and cracked ivory joint from a trip through baggage handling my cues took in my $600 Justis case, I am the original owner of the case and it is not modified at all. TopEndOriginalCueMaker says it will cost $1,200 to fix the damage, and that the cue might not quite play like it once did as damage like this can often irreversibly affect the hit."

Jack "Hmm, what proof do you have that my case caused the damage"

Customer "well the cue was fine when I checked it into baggage in the Justis case, and when I got the luggage on the other end the cue was damaged and the lid of the case has sections where the pin clearly hit the top of the case"

Jack "you did not have joint protectors on the cue then, that is not my fault or problem, I am not paying for the cue fix"

Customer "you never said joint protectors were required in a Justis case to protect the cues..."

Jack "true enough, I will jump on to AZB and post that right now, have a nice day and good luck getting that cue fixed. Remember to get some joint protectors!"

Customer "..."


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Shane Lyons

Then don't buy a Justis case. Problem solved.
 
Just saw the second video last night, well not all of it....
The test shown of dropping the cue on different type of padding doesn't really shows anything about protecting the cue, more like about protecting the case.
Think of dropping a cue on a concrete floor vs dropping it into a sand box, when hitting the hard floor the cue will be damaged but the floor will stay the same. while dropping it into a sand box, the cue will go through the sand "penetrating it", this will slow the speed of the drop until it'll stop, the cue will be safe but the sand surface is destroyed.
The bouncing of the cue due to hitting the hard surface whether it be hard floor or hard piece of leather is not helping in protecting the cue either.

There is a trade-off here, if we want to protect the case then the cue will get damage and if we want to protect the cue then the case will be damaged.

The obvious should be that since the purpose of a case is to protect the cues inside it then we should accept a case damage in order to save the cues.
NOT so obvious when the case cost as much as the cues inside it and sometimes even more....

For me, I rather see the case absorbing the abuse and not the cues. The padding of the top and bottom should thick, soft and elastic.

My conclusion are:
1. The fragile parts of a case in a scenario of a serious accident such as the lid or the bottom should be easy to replace and should not cost that much. This might require a different approach to construction.
2. Use joint protection!!! there were many posts about them, many said that they are not necessary, well this CASE WAR shows otherwise....
 
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Just saw the second video last night, well not all of it....
The test shown of dropping the cue on different type of padding doesn't really shows anything about protecting the cue, more like about protecting the case.
Think of dropping a cue on a concrete floor vs dropping it into a sand box, when hitting the hard floor the cue will be damaged but the floor will stay the same. while dropping it into a sand box, the cue will go through the sand "penetrating it", this will slow the speed of the drop until it'll stop, the cue will be safe but the sand surface is destroyed.
The bouncing of the cue due to hitting the hard surface whether it be hard floor or hard piece of leather is not helping in protecting the cue either.

There is a trade-off here, if we want to protect the case then the cue will get damage and if we want to protect the cue then the case will be damaged.

The obvious should be that since the purpose of a case is to protect the cues inside it then we should accept a case damage in order to save the cues.
NOT so obvious when the case cost as much as the cues inside it and sometimes even more....

For me, I rather see the case absorbing the abuse and not the cues. The padding of the top and bottom should thick, soft and elastic.

My conclusion are:
1. The fragile parts of a case in a scenario of a serious accident such as the lid or the bottom should be easy to replace and should not cost that much. This might require a different approach to construction.
2. Use joint protection!!! there were many posts about them, many said that they are not necessary, well this CASE WAR shows otherwise....

Hmm, interesting, kind of like the concept of old cars vs new. I do not know how many people talk about how strong cars were back in the day and how heavy they were, just because they were built solid and made of thicker metal instead of the tin cans of today does not mean they are safer. I hear people say it all the time, you will die in that tin can, but you could probably put a Smart car up against say a 57 chevy and the Smart car would do better in the crash test.

A car today is meant to total out and absorb the impact so you do not have to, the cars of yesterday were so solid and rigid that you could die very easily in them as you would be absorbing the force of the impact much more.
 
I don't know at all that I was doing anything wrong. However you are absolutely correct about the nervous energy and lack of focus. I should have practiced more and not committed to doing it until I could be clear and calm.

You are wrong because of the purpose of the presentation. It downs the other guys product to make yours look good when that reason is only slightly substantial. Most everyone seems to know this except you. The sooner you admit it and leave this alone, the better off you'll be. You make a good case, just leave it at that and let the work speak for itself. You don't have to do a video to prove how smart you are for coming up with a padded interior, show and how crappy Jack's interior's are when they actually do the job just fine. Take Bill Gates for instance. He is frustrated not because he sells more, but because people love Apple more than they love Windows. Look at Windows Vista. It did everything except BE a Mac. Now, there's Window's 7 which will even be more like Apple, but will still fall short in their attempt to trump Apple products. A PC can never be a Mac because Steve Jobs' creativity is more pure and original than Bill Gates. The iphone, ipod, and MacBook all speak for themselves which is what you should do if you feel your product is superior.



I did compare the case to our interior. That was the key point. I was rightly chastised for not doing the drop test on both the Justis and the JB Case. That was not left out on purpose. I just missed it while trying to focus on the chat room and the video quality and the connection and the message at the same time.

As I have stated several times and as you have no doubt read, that will be rectified tomorrow.



Well that's how it felt even though that was not my intention. I am really not sure how a competitor can ever do a product comparison that doesn't feel that way somehow. If I were to watch it then I would expect some sleight of hand as well. But I assure you that this was not the case. The presentation was barely planned out, was not scripted in any way and was somewhat practiced the night before but on the day of it was live and on-the-fly.

It is because it is a hasty response to something that you thought you could get ahead with by showing the world the one thing that you thought you could do better than Jack when in fact, it is not really as important as you make it out to be.


I agree. Which is why I will do it again in a calmer and focused manner.

Please don't.


Ok, Noted. Hopefully it will be raised a few notches when I do the better version.

Why? Because you have a bigger dik?

If you can agree with me on this, you should just agree with me all the way and just trust me. You are only digging yourself a deeper hole. Stop now before you completely bury yourself.


Well said. I only disagree on the points where the consumer can't or doesn't know what the guts look like. When I bought my Durango I researched review websites from qualified reviews as well as customer testimonials. In cue cases there are no qualified reviewers that are unbiased. No one knows what is below the first five inches in a tube case.

Well accidents happen to the best of people. No matter who you are at some point in your life your case will fall over, get dropped, end up in an awkward position, or be roughly handled. It is my position that the user should not have to worry about these things. That is why I definitely identify more with Samsonite in my concept of what a case is for.

Then why don't you make a case that looks like a Samsonite? Why don't you just make an ugly, hard black case with steel corners on it? Why mess with design or looks at all?


That is an interesting point because I have seen plenty of Joint protectors the past few years which cost as much as some cues. The caps made by Alton Tanaka for example are works of art. I woudn't want those hitting anything with any sort of force whatsoever if I owned them.

So what? They are made for protecting the cues. That is their purpose. If they get dinged, which it will be next to impossible, just go out and buy some more. The point is, that is very likely not going to happen. I have seen very expensive joint protectors too, but Alton's joint protector's are one extreme example which is, again, not a valid point. There are many more that cost around the $15 range which is where your primary observation should be noted.


Once again I have to ask when was the last time you were in the pool room? In my travels I have seen people carrying their cases in both directions. But in general you are right they don't.

You are right. People carry their cases upside down. People also walk on their hands, and drive down the road in reverse, but not very often at all. People of sense do things with sense, and those who don't have sense will pay for their mistakes.

Well no one on purpose. But there is such a thing as an accident. And again I have plenty of stories of people who lost control of their cases BY ACCIDENT.

That will just be too dam bad won't it? You can't control everything John.



Or buy a case that frees you from the need to take extra steps.

Let's ask any top pro if they take the extra steps? I would love to hear those answers. Maybe you're thinking of doing those videos for us on ustream too?

Your opinion is noted. Next time there is a discussion on cue construction I will jump in and give my opinion as to what common sense is even though I am not a cue maker and have never built a cue. So when you tell us that a particular technique is important to build a solid cue then I will disagree with you since I obviously know more about the subject of cuemaking than you do since I have handled and played with so many cues. The fact is you build cues and I build cases to protect them. I can take your cue and easily break it in the type of interior that you claim is sufficient whereas you cannot do the same to a cue in my case in the same manner.


Easily break a cue sitting in a pro-lite interior? How? That's what I want to know? I didn't see you demonstrate that.


Oh please. Mr. Justis "success" is nothing to me. Success to me in this business is when someone sends me an email telling me about an accident and how their cues were saved due to the protection I built into the case. And that happens often enough to let me know that what I am doing is worthwhile.

Mr. Justis' success is nothing to you? See, that is where you need to be honest with yourself and admit that Jack is successful and stop trying to prove that he isn't. Success is defined as being the top in one's industry, and Mr. Justis is regarded as the absolute best by the absolute top pros, the absolute top collectors and these are people who would know. To deny that is without common sense. I also think you are a person of great success, but you apparently feel the need to prove that to Jack, so that makes things clear doesn't it?

Mr. Justis does what 150 cases a year or so? I have no idea. Success to me though is that by the end of 2010 there will be approximately 7000 people around world who have chosen cases I designed to protect their cues. All but around 1500 of those cases will be less than $200 retail. Less than 100 of them will be JB Custom Cases. That's success that I bring what I consider to be excellent, no-hassle, no- worry protection to thousands of players.

I suppose everyday low prices and mass quantity is important to you as well as Lucasi and Fury, but to Dennis Searing, Ernie Gutierrez, and Jack Justis, it is not. Simply put, you get what you pay for. Go back and read my thoughts on Blue Diamond to 'get what I mean'. The simplicity of design and popularity I feel is your single most frustrating obstacle, so because you have no other way to retaliate, you attack the interior which is totally unnecessary, because your interiors and his both work great. Tell me I'm wrong.

I guess if I were a cue maker I'd want the people who bought my cues to take special care of them and get the case that offers the most protection. I just feel that if I put so much love and care into crafting such a beautiful and fragile thing as a pool cue, and they are fairly fragile as far as sports equipment goes, then I would be heartbroken to see them damaged in any way. Unless of course I was making money on the repairs, then I would recommend only cases that rattle.

This last comment is done in very poor taste.... So what if the contents rattle a little? I guarantee you that rattling doesn't bother Efren, Busti, Corey, Gabe one bit. There is plenty of protection in his cases and that's all that matters. It doesn't have to have a dang fortress inside of it. What matters the most is that it does the job and then some! Cues are resilient and can take a little beating. They can be carried in a plastic sleeve or even with a rubber band and be just fine. There are many cue makers who store their cues in a trash can! It is made to strike an object and can also be dinged against a table, or a chair, or against each other and still be fine........ It is wood, plastic, and metal glued and screwed together creatively to form functional art.

Anyway your points are noted. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for more. The programming will get better I promise.



I have no doubt that you are an intelligent person. I have no doubt that you are a great case maker. You are possibly the most A.D.D. behaving debater I have seen on AZ. I could bring up any point of common sense and you could cleverly and endlessly counter with some random example of, "well, back in the day, this one time I had a case owner that ate too much chili before playing pool and he was such a careless dumbass, he sat on his case on a gravel road all the way to the pool hall in his POS truck and on the way, he farted on it, and out pops a rivet and it accidentally got stuck in the hole in the shaft where the pin screws in and caused me to ruin the inlays on my brand new fury cue when I screwed it together, all the while not realizing it because I was careless dumbass............ and also, that caused the cue case to be in default by not being worthy of protecting my cues.... and that inspired me to make this case with new crush-proof case with non-poppable rivets when you fart on it and even comes with this plush interior that soaks up all the moisture from all the sweat from your hands, cause my case can comfortably hold a passenger crew of 6 and even store a .30-06, go zero to sixty in .06 seconds and blow your case away to keys in South Florida.......... dude, PLEASE!

I think you are a super guy, but you have overcooked your grits on this one pal. Leave it alone.

To Jack Justis: No, please don't use my comments anywhere on any flier and please don't comment anymore in this thread or any other thread defending your product because it is simply not necessary. Your product is the best there is IMHO and your cases speak for themselves. The energy and time it takes to post ain't worth the trouble. Trust me. There are plenty of other Justis fans who are ready to defend your product for you. If anyone asks you a question answer it via PM. If someone insults you publicly, it is because they are jealous and have no valid reason. Ignore it! and keep making your beautiful cases! This interior crap is just what it is.... crap. I've said it before, your interiors protect the cues just fine. If someone can't take care of their cues with one of your interiors or even the interior of a cheap $50 case, I guess they will have to learn the hard way.

Both case makers can do without anymore of this junk. It is childish and it demonstrates clearly how one's life-long built up reputation be stained with $hit over one, childish, button-pushing disagreement.
 
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