Same thing happened with my dad and I , he ordered patches, in the beginning of February and it was no big deal if they were busy or whatever, but he was told he would get a shipping confirmation when they would be shipped. So a month went by and he heard nothing. So he called numberous times and the # on the site said Chad,,but he was given Justin's # and Left a message but heard nothing back at all and waited another week and pm's him here and he got no response and then he just contacted pay pal to see what was going on and then next thing he knew he got a refund for his order. When all he wanted was some type of info on the patches or something. WE know these guys are busy and we appreciate all theta TAR brings us. We order every TAR match the offer to support them and thats why we wanted the patches. I asked my dad if he was going to reorder the patches when they get back in the office and he said since they refunded the money they probably don't want our buisness. Bottom line was we only wanted the patches to show our support and no one ever got back to us in almost 2 months of ordering then when you try to find out what is going on they refund the money like they dont need it anyhow ...Gavin