Yeah.
Baseball.
Golf.
Football.
All pretty much unchanged in the modern era with regards to the way points are scored, games are played and length of contest. We can only hope pool is on the same path to extinction.
Stop making new pool games.
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Yeah.
Baseball.
Golf.
Football.
All pretty much unchanged in the modern era with regards to the way points are scored, games are played and length of contest. We can only hope pool is on the same path to extinction.
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I agree Andrew. Because of this, I received a Bobble Ball Game for Christmas several years ago. It still sits, un opened in its package.
I got ripped off for one present. I could have gotten an Aramith cue ball instead of that dumb A ss thing.
Bobble Ball. Anyone want to trade for a couple of pieces of Blue Diamond?
Id say a piece of Kamui chalk but then I'd owe you $29.90
I got ripped off for one present. I could have gotten an Aramith cue ball instead of that dumb A ss thing.
Bobble Ball. Anyone want to trade for a couple of pieces of Blue Diamond?
Id say a piece of Kamui chalk but then I'd owe you $29.90
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3 ball ring games 4-5 handed makes for GREAT gambling. especially when you play 2 tie all tie and double the pot. Start with $1 5 ways, and if 2 tie then all 5 players have to post $2 so there is a $15 pot. then 2 tie again now carry the $15 and add($4X5)=$35 pot etc etc etc.
I seen some 4 figure pots and the champions didnt get the $$$, I did onetimeI won a big one, but got busted before the game was over 6 hours later. I didnt have much to start with, its great gambling. and even better for your game, when you have a medium hard shot thats worth a few hundred $$$'s and if you dog it you have to double down again, you have more pressure than just the price of the shot, cause the post $$$ after the tie can get big-if there is no cap. So you are playing to pot the ball for the payday and so you dont have to post more $$$, in a 5 handed game this is the nuts.
Can we please keep this game? better yet would anyone still play this game, nobody gambles like that anymore. I played this game with champions in it and they aint a lock to win. Get 2 on the pop and dont dog it you might get paid, get all 3 on the pop---> GIN!!!
No one mentioned English 8-Ball on the 6'?
English Black-Ball?
1-15 8-Ball?
Last-Pocket 8-Ball?
Bar-rules?
21-Ball 8-Ball?
Keno?
Snooker?
Straight-Rail Billiards?
Baulk-Line?
3-Cushion?
Poker Pool?
Cut-Throat?
Pyramid?
We should combine all of these into a NEW AND EXCITING format, with lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
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English Black-Ball?
1-15 8-Ball?
Last-Pocket 8-Ball?
Bar-rules?
21-Ball 8-Ball?
Keno?
Snooker?
Straight-Rail Billiards?
Baulk-Line?
3-Cushion?
Poker Pool?
Cut-Throat?
Pyramid?
We should combine all of these into a NEW AND EXCITING format, with lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
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I think that the people here who are resistant to new ideas and games are defending their ego's, since they derive self-worth from pool in general, and don't derive self-worth from much else. For a lot of people, this game isn't just a hobby, but almost like a religion. Some would consider that a little sad.
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Is this an appropriate time for an, "Oh yeah, I'll give the 6 for a bajillion dollars Mr. Smarmy Pants" kinda threat?
Wow, I thought you were the Tramp
Your riverside avatar at first glance reminded me of Tramp Steamer whose ego is definitely a by-product of his self worth derived from his adoring masses here in AZ land. I am also pretty sure he has other sources for his self worth.
All jokes aside as well as seriousness. I want to hear more about Cleary ball. :thumbup:
Money - Bag
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Your riverside avatar at first glance reminded me of Tramp Steamer whose ego is definitely a by-product of his self worth derived from his adoring masses here in AZ land. I am also pretty sure he has other sources for his self worth.
All jokes aside as well as seriousness. I want to hear more about Cleary ball. :thumbup:
Money - Bag
(D-bag club, self appointed Treasurer)
Since I started the thread, I'll assume this is directed at me...
First of all, I shouldn't have to defend myself, but I will. If I made my living based on the money I've generated through pool, I would be homeless and my wife and child would be long gone. I'm a working professional and do very well for myself and my family. Every single thing I've done in pool has been a passion project and things I enjoy.
Second, pool is a clusterf*ck. There are a million different games on 4 different sized tables with who the hell knows how many different sets of rules for each of the games. It's a godamn mess.
When you add more games and more new rules, you're watering down what pool is or what it could be. You separate players and who shows up to what. In golf, you have golfers that play golf. In pool you have people who only play 14.1, only play 8ball, only play 9ball blah blah blah. On top of that, all the different rules. It just beats down what pool is and makes it more confusing to watch.
People say, "pool isn't successful to the general public", so they naturally assume it's the game (9ball, 8ball) instead of the actual act of pocketing balls. When you think about it, it's just changing the rules when the general public doesn't actually know the rules anyway. The only thing they actually sorta know is 8ball. Why make things more confusing when it's already confusing them to begin with?
The difference between 9ball and 10ball is really just an extra ball and the way the balls are racked. Then people play 15ball rotation and all of a sudden there is math involved... Scrap the math, scrap the softbreak 9ball and 2nd ball 10ball. They make 16balls, use em all and be done with it. 15balls, "9ball" rules. Bam, done. You don't to learn more rules, you don't have to do MATH, just play 9ball with a lot more balls. Even the pros don't run out when they should.
There is something to the math issue, Cleary.
I learned 14.1 a while ago, and I like it. But when I go out to play pool, I don't want keeping score to be an issue. 8, 9 and 10 ball, you keep score at the end of each game, while balls are bring racked. Simple.
For me to play 14.1, I have to arrange keeping score, every ball, both players. If your room doesn't have beads overhead, or tables with scoring wheels, ya gotta score on a piece of paper. It is not a relaxing way of playing, to me.
I expect at some level this affects some folks like it does me. That doesn't take away from how good a game 14.1 is, but it may explain why it isn't as popular to play.
I learned 14.1 a while ago, and I like it. But when I go out to play pool, I don't want keeping score to be an issue. 8, 9 and 10 ball, you keep score at the end of each game, while balls are bring racked. Simple.
For me to play 14.1, I have to arrange keeping score, every ball, both players. If your room doesn't have beads overhead, or tables with scoring wheels, ya gotta score on a piece of paper. It is not a relaxing way of playing, to me.
I expect at some level this affects some folks like it does me. That doesn't take away from how good a game 14.1 is, but it may explain why it isn't as popular to play.
Human is as human does. Innovation, it isn't always right, but it keeps things interesting.
It's in our nature, we will not stop making new games....... or wheels for that matter.
It's in our nature, we will not stop making new games....... or wheels for that matter.
actually in rotation you win on points not pocketing the highest numbered ball like 6, 9, 10 ball. did ya know that?:thumbup:
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actually in rotation you win on points not pocketing the highest numbered ball like 6, 9, 10 ball. did ya know that?:thumbup:
He did...he just wants to play without the math.
"Scrap the math, scrap the softbreak 9ball and 2nd ball 10ball. They make 16balls, use em all and be done with it. 15balls, "9ball" rules. "
You can give people a deck of cards, but you can't tell them what game to play(unless you're making the rules).
15 balls with 9-ball rules would be more boring than watching Charlie Williams
playing Ralf Souquet 1-pocket.
...too many dead balls
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Well Clear I guess I’m the guilty one here as I happen to have 2 of them mentioned.
I came up with American Rotation for 1 main reason, make our players better and if you play it often you will get better. I wasn’t trying to get the general public to watch pool, I’ll leave to others. I believe if we play more rotation it’ll help raise our level of play and I was particularly concerned with American players, pool as its played around the world is considered American pool and how we stand in world competition right now is kind of sad since it’s our game.
I believe scoring it 1 or 2 points per ball is not soooo tough and is better than just winning on the 15, I don’t see that working. Some of the best pool I ever played was in 15 ball ring games where we got paid for every ball and I still like the idea of receiving credit for every ball I make. I don’t see why I shouldn’t have invented this game and I don’t think inventing it is going to hurt us at all. If you and I played 9 or 10 ball I gotta give ya what, last 4 or 5 and we can pretty much picture how it’s going to go, I do 80% of the shooting and you hope I hang one up. If we were to play a handicapped American Rotation 100-40 or 50 you would not only enjoy more cuz you’re going to get to the table more but you would become a better, smarter player faster at this very difficult game of ours.
I came up with American Rotation for 1 main reason, make our players better and if you play it often you will get better. I wasn’t trying to get the general public to watch pool, I’ll leave to others. I believe if we play more rotation it’ll help raise our level of play and I was particularly concerned with American players, pool as its played around the world is considered American pool and how we stand in world competition right now is kind of sad since it’s our game.
I believe scoring it 1 or 2 points per ball is not soooo tough and is better than just winning on the 15, I don’t see that working. Some of the best pool I ever played was in 15 ball ring games where we got paid for every ball and I still like the idea of receiving credit for every ball I make. I don’t see why I shouldn’t have invented this game and I don’t think inventing it is going to hurt us at all. If you and I played 9 or 10 ball I gotta give ya what, last 4 or 5 and we can pretty much picture how it’s going to go, I do 80% of the shooting and you hope I hang one up. If we were to play a handicapped American Rotation 100-40 or 50 you would not only enjoy more cuz you’re going to get to the table more but you would become a better, smarter player faster at this very difficult game of ours.
actually in rotation you win on points not pocketing the highest numbered ball like 6, 9, 10 ball. did ya know that?:thumbup:
Yes, which is why I said it's a flawed game. When you include math, people lose interest.