Tar one hole

on a side note....them balls.....

another side note....its almost comical watching on the loop the pre interview and the first couple games with everyone's hopes up that this could be the most exciting match of all time....and how it was going to be a long night, probably hill hill. Yet, the EXACT opposite occurred. I witnessed for the first time in my life, Efren went on tilt. Period.
 
Efern acted like he was drugged or sick, or real tired. There was something wrong there. I know people are going to come back at me saying everyone has a bad match once in awhile. It's bad enough that he missed many shots that a "D" and "C" player makes 95% of the time, but he was taking shots that even a non-1 hole player like me knew was wrong before he shot them. He just won the DCC 1 hole with 300 players and didn't lose a match. You don't fade out in a week unless something is really wrong. Very sad. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
Efern acted like he was drugged or sick, or real tired. There was something wrong there. I know people are going to come back at me saying everyone has a bad match once in awhile. It's bad enough that he missed many shots that a "D" and "C" player makes 95% of the time, but he was taking shots that even a non-1 hole player like me knew was wrong before he shot them. He just won the DCC 1 hole with 300 players and didn't lose a match. You don't fade out in a week unless something is really wrong. Very sad. Johnnyt
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really wrong?? Or maybe just a bad night and he is exhausted??
 
I watched it. You can put me in the shit happens camp. It can happen to anyone in any sport. Look at Peyton Manning in the Superbowl or Tiger almost shooting 80 a couple weeks ago. Both of those are more or less the equivalent to what Efren did tonight.

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I think it would be more equivalent if tiger almost shot 90. Praying for a flashback tomorrow to 1973... Or even last week.
 
Efren is human...

Johnnyt said:
Efern acted like he was drugged or sick, or real tired. There was something wrong there. I know people are going to come back at me saying everyone has a bad match once in awhile. It's bad enough that he missed many shots that a "D" and "C" player makes 95% of the time, but he was taking shots that even a non-1 hole player like me knew was wrong before he shot them. He just won the DCC 1 hole with 300 players and didn't lose a match. You don't fade out in a week unless something is really wrong. Very sad. Johnnyt
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I tend to agree, something seemed totally off. It was at times hard to watch. Everybody has a bad day but you would never in a million years imagine you would see what we saw from Efren. I really hope he is ok and comes back and schools Shane and the rest of us on Rotation on Saturday.
I never thought it would ever be hard to watch Efren .....:frown:
 
After 4 games, the score was 2-2 and the sum of the game scores was 19-19 (game scores of 1-8, 8-0, 8-3, and 2-8).

Efren then lost 9 games in a row, including 5 on his own break. The sum of the game scores for those 9 games was 72-27.

Does anyone know whether Efren has ever had such a streak of bad play in One-Pocket?

It seems like the guy has been playing constantly, all over the country, since he arrived in the US several weeks ago. Is he just worn out? Was this just a bad night and we'll see better from him tomorrow and the next day? Does he need to pace himself better these days?

I certainly hope we see something better tomorrow. He has long been known as a master of "Philippine" rotation, so it could be really interesting.
 
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Well from what I gathered from watching the podcast Shane was not familiar with the rules of rotation, so most likely Shane has never even played it before.
 
I think Efren is exhausted. Too much traveling and way too much pool. He needed a rest before this match. I suspect he will go 0-3 here.
 
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I think Efren is exhausted. Too much traveling and way too much pool. He needed a rest before this match. I suspect he will go 0-3 here.
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Biggest thing I noticed was in 13 games Efren never took an intentional foul!!!

In 13 games not one WEDGE!!!

It was a gun fight from start to finish!

KD
 
the match started of competetive, for the first 4 games anyway. I stopped watching at 8-2 Shaye, I was tired and couldn't imagine Efren coming back from that the way he was playing
 
Efren appeared fairly peppy in the Podcast.

In the 1P..he struggled. Early on he tried to laugh and shrug off shots or decisions that went bad. As the downward spiral continued...he looked as though he didn't know who the 'Efren' was at the table. It was not the Efren we know. Seemed like Efren didn't know him either.

I can understand being tired from a brutal travel schedule and possible Thursday night action?..I hope that is the case, and not an acute health issue.

I hope he bounces back for the other two sets. I'm guessing that Shane wants Efren's best game. After all, they are both Champions.
 
Guessing tired is the main thing. Maybe when you come off a major tournament win,
you aren't necessarily ready to rumble again one week later. It's more than getting a night's sleep.
He needed a mental break where he could recharge the batteries before having to play some more
dead-nuts-serious top-shelf pool.

It might also be something about the setting/mood?
TAR is already a small venue, few spectators, everyone's dead quiet.
On top of that, maybe there was a really depressed vibe in the room from the news of TAR's demise.
Hard to mount a comeback without much positive energy in the room.

I don't think there was anything major wrong or that he made un-efren-like decisions.
A lot of games where he sold out and lost were simple errors in speed control.

Like he played to carom into a ball hanging in the hole, and didn't hit hard enough and left
shane the hanger to start his run. On several shots he wanted to leave the cue ball
stuck to the rail and wasn't even close, letting shane see the whole ball.
He played some shots with 3 rail shape and fell 2 feet short.
 
Does anyone that saw the broadcast last night and has seen Efern many times before playing other top tier players really think there was nothing wrong with him and he just had a bad night?

If he was just wore out from playing too much pool and no rest before the TAR match, that shows no respect for TAR or his many fans in his country, here, and around the world. I have a lot of respect for him, but the easy shots he missed and the way he played the match tells me he is sick (bad case of the flue) on some new meds, or something else was wrong.

15 ball rotation is Efern's game. If all he needed is rest he should beat Shane easily tonight. If he plays as poor as he did last night...there is something else very wrong. I'm hoping it's only something like the flu. Johnnyt
 
Anybody know how much practice time they got on the table, prior to match play?

Table looked like it was playing pretty slow-like and under-hitting las bolas burned efren a few times.

But then you look at the lag...he had that down.
 
Like I said , I missed it last night, but it sounds like the same guy who played Earl in a ppv match a couple of weeks ago.
 
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