TAR PPV with Dippy and Bart has been cancelled

It's not a total loss--the interviews were great. I'd like to see more interviews, and I bet lots of other people would, too. Thanks for posting them.
 
Lop Sided from the get go! No weight matches!

I would rather watch straight up even race's than bullshit spots & rules!
 
I'll give it a shot !

denzy said:
Is their anyway someone can blame earl because someone backed out
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ok..It's Earl's fault cuz he backed out from playing 2nd set on 9 footer with SVB as promised...Now it caught on like a fashion craze..Now everybody is doing it ! :rolleyes::D
 
It's like Mr. Peat said, he is shooting a lumberyard at toothpicks. Honestly what is the most he could have won from Mr. Bartram's backer? 20 or 40K maybe? How much would Mr. Peat go off for?

"The money on the light makes it right."

Well, there will be much more to come from the TAR studio to keep us entertained.
 
Roadie said:
Honestly what is the most he could have won from Mr. Bartram's backer? 20 or 40K maybe?
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He had already lost over 30 to Dippy before this weeks circus even kicked off.... The guy that broke the balls like King Kong last night wore him out, I think.
 
This is the thing that happens all of the time in real world gambling, it just sucks that it happens to Justin/TAR. He has paid his dues and if anyone needs to catch some good rolls its him....
 
Fatboy2 said:
JCIN is a hell of a guy, and is doing great things for pool.

He said it right too "playing before the game, is a bad plan" thats a action killer almost every time. Because someone will always see something they dont like and pull up. You cant ever let players play before the "Action" with out risking the real game. Because when they start playing the action has started no matter what the bet is. This is not specific to this time, it applies to all action. It can go the other way if both sides see something they like, but more often it dont work that way.


JCIN has alot of heart and this is only one day, action is spontaneous and waits for no one, I have seen games fall apart in 30 seconds after weeks of planning, and seen action just happen with 5 minutes planning. Thats pool. Action waits for no one. The deposit idea would cover JCIN's biz and I like that plan. I know we all want this to work.

best

eric
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As a business man like you Eric -- I totally agree. When this went south I immediately thought of all the things Justin had already done and the frustration he must have experienced. He put in some serious man-hours and should be compensated for that.

I remember a few years back I had troubles getting a PPV code to work. I knew Justin was extremely busy but he told everyone "If you have any issues send me an email". I held off for awhile as the stream was well into the match but I finally gave in and sent an email. He immediately responded with a new code and as bad luck would have it, that code did not work either. I sent another email and he immediately came back with yet another code and a note saying I would be refunded. It wasn't the money I was concerned about but the needed "fix". Rather then trying the new code I immediately sent an email back saying "Nooooooo refund, I know what you are going through and you deserve every penny even if I don't get to see most of the match". I then tried the new code and luckily it worked and my fix was in.

With this unfortunate situation today, I happened to be on Facebook when Justin announced the cancellation and ... well, I'll let these screen shots tell the story.

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I just doesn't get any better customer service-wise then that. TAR is just the absolute nutz in my book!
 
Worth mentioning, the last set yesterday Bart was up 23-16 going to 25, missed a 7 ball and Dippy wins 9 in a row from there to win (mostly combos on the 5 and 9). Try giving up 2:1 on the money betting 10k and fading that... That would break most backs.
 
The Saw said:
Worth mentioning, the last set yesterday Bart was up 23-16 going to 25, missed a 7 ball and Dippy wins 9 in a row from there to win (mostly combos on the 5 and 9). Try giving up 2:1 on the money betting 10k and fading that... That would break most backs.
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Thanks for the behind-the-scenes info leading up to the cancellation. Kinda explains a few things we were curious about.
 
The Saw said:
He had already lost over 30 to Dippy before this weeks circus even kicked off.... The guy that broke the balls like King Kong last night wore him out, I think.
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Well then it sounds like the pre-PPV activities were the problem. Kinda like eating a big bowl of ice cream right before thanksgiving dinner.

Thank you for the extra information.
 
JCIN said:
After two days of playing basically the same game Bart's guy decided he did not like the game enough to put up the $20K. Really nothing more to be said from there.

Its my fault for breaking my own rule about making both sides post a deposit, even though that really is no guarantee of a match either. A guy could easily walk away from a $1000 deposit if he thinks hes in a bad game.

The problem was they played each other for two days before the scheduled match. Never a good thing. I want to say that both Chris, his backer and Dippy all acted like gentlemen and were very respectable. Things like this just happen in action.

I apologize for it not going off. I work very hard to make sure we do what we say will and it really pisses me off when it doesnt happen for whatever reason. I'll find a way to make it up to the people who wanted to see it.
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Dont worry about it JCIN. These things happen.
 
Yeah, dont sweat it Justin. I appreciate all you do for pool.

Anything coming for tonight though? I thought someone mentioned that you might be streaming something?
 
The Saw said:
Worth mentioning, the last set yesterday Bart was up 23-16 going to 25, missed a 7 ball and Dippy wins 9 in a row from there to win (mostly combos on the 5 and 9). Try giving up 2:1 on the money betting 10k and fading that... That would break most backs.
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thanks for the info... that puts the whole thing in better perspective.

Interesting though... the 1st night they played, in the 1st set, I was watching back and forth but I think they were tied at around 15, then apparently Chris won that one 30-15 or something. If I'm close with those scores, then the same thing happened, except for Chris that time:smile:

I guess Justin's going to have to keep the door locked until 2 hours before showtime and give each person a hour to practice at that point:D I can't see this happening very easily with anyone else though. If 2 people agreed to a hefty matchup, they signed up with TAR and all, a date was set. If they got into town a day or 2 early, I can't see anyone else, except for Dippy, all the sudden start playing big sets every day and then cancel the whole thing 2 hours before the start of the event.

I hope Dippy took care of Justin for all of his troubles.

EDIT: Just saw this in another thread, so that was cool on DipPeat's part

JCIN said:
Dippy went above and beyond and squared me away on the money I had put out for hotels and other expenses. More than few people would of chalked it up to bad luck and went on down the line. Dippy didn't do that. He stood up and did what he could to help.
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Oh well.... NEXT UP! John Brumback and Dippy... I think:smile:
 
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I heard a match did go forth. Hearsay ain't all it's cracked up to be, I guess! :D
 
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JCIN said:
After two days of playing basically the same game Bart's guy decided he did not like the game enough to put up the $20K. Really nothing more to be said from there.

Its my fault for breaking my own rule about making both sides post a deposit, even though that really is no guarantee of a match either. A guy could easily walk away from a $1000 deposit if he thinks hes in a bad game.

The problem was they played each other for two days before the scheduled match. Never a good thing. I want to say that both Chris, his backer and Dippy all acted like gentlemen and were very respectable. Things like this just happen in action.

I apologize for it not going off. I work very hard to make sure we do what we say will and it really pisses me off when it doesnt happen for whatever reason. I'll find a way to make it up to the people who wanted to see it.
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Justin,:idea: I'll have my lawyer contact your lawyer to have a contract drawn up between TAR and William Incardona stating that Mr. Incardona will receive free of charge for the next 12 months all PPV. matches streamed by TAR. Plus in addition to that there will be a 12 month supply of pop corn delivered to Mr. Incardona's address in Dallas Tx.Also if Mr. Incardona wishes to watch the stream live at TAR studio a first class plane ticket will be puchased by TAR along with a room reservation at The Encore Hotel and Casino, located on Las Vegas Blvd. If these demands are fulfilled Mr. Incardona will show his gratitude by doing commentary on the first 3 or 4 games of a 9 or 10 ball match, or the first game of a one pocket match, which ever one is being streamed.

:poke:Whadda ya think?

Mr. Incardona
 
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wincardona said:
Justin,:idea: I'll have my lawyer contact your lawyer to have a contract drawn up between TAR and William Incardona stating that Mr. Incardona will receive free of charge for the next 12 months all PPV. matches streamed by TAR. Plus in addition to that there will be a 12 month supply of pop corn delivered to Mr. Incardona's address in Dallas Tx.Also if Mr. Incardona wishes to watch the stream live at TAR studio a first class plane ticket will be puchased by TAR along with a room reservation at The Encore Hotel and Casino, located on Las Vegas Blvd. If these demands are fulfilled Mr. Incardona will show his gratitude by doing commentary on the first 3 or 4 games of a 9 or 10 ball match, or the first game of a one pocket match, which ever one is being streamed.

:poke:Whadda ya think?

Mr. Incardona
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Mr. Incardona I appreciate your gracious offer and after consulting our legal and purchasing departments I am authorized to meet all of your stipulations that include popcorn. I was told that for you we would go the extra mile and get you some butter as well but please keep that to yourself or we will have a revolt on our hands.

<------thinks Billy deserves all the stuff he was talking about.

Rumor around the desert is you may be around at some point I hope you would do us the honor of a visit to our new studio if you get the time. I think you might like it. I promise not to stick a mic in your face.
 
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JAM said:
I heard a match did go forth. Hearsay ain't all it's cracked up to be, I guess! :D
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Yup a match is going on and its about as different from the 9 ball game as possible. This match was asked to be kept private and not be streamed so that's how its happening.
 
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