The Best Cue Case Period

hoosier_cues said:
Given time you dont think there is any chance of a society similiar to ours in China? There was a time here you could not buy a beer legally. There was a time here they passed a thing called the patiot act. When it comes to civil liberties they are gaining by leaps and bounds. All the while we are losing ours piece by piece. They are a communist country. So was the Baltic States. Look at them now. Some of my wifes family resides in the Ukraine. What changes do you think they have seen just in the last 15 years.
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I agree, we are losing liberties. I don' like it. The fall of socialism in Russia and the baltic states opened the door for mail orded brides and organized crime.
Glen
 
ribdoner said:
Line him up a gig consulting/exporting so he can bank a boat load of $$$$$$$$$$$:)
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LOL - I wish it were that easy. I am still waiting on my shipload of dollars to come in.
 
JB Cases said:
No Glen, I meant that in the USA the cost of ammunition for the Police and the Army that is used to kill US citizens is charged to the taxpayers, not to the individual or his family.

Please show me how the Army is killing US citizens.
Glen
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What do you think the answer will be going forward?

Adam<========very apprehensive about our planets ability to support the transformation of HUGE 3rd world countries into fossil fuel devouring and environmental polluting behemeths. Has anybody else wondered what will happen if the transformation occurs too quickly and technology is not in place to meet demands?

HOPE I'm full of crapp and dead wrong! (wouldn't be the first time...)
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Uh yeah, Al Gore.
 
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half fast bankr said:
Wow, discrimination based on the future instead of the past. Now that's working overtime!

"moving forward", ourselves killing ourselves would be the answer.

Devils advocate:

I've often wondered why 'we' were entitled to destroy the earth with our american endeavors, but now no other countries are allowed the same pursuits we faught so valiantly for. Is it fair that we produce a majority of pollution but will not allow other nations to even come close to our destrucitve levels simply because they were slower to join the industrial revolution? And if you were a member of some other country, and were told you cannot follow your own path, wouldn't you tell 'us' to go blow it out of our fat lazy arses?

Additionaly, as we move forward, remember 'who' we is. Humans. Earthlings. WE ARE ALL ONE. We are merely separated by imaginary lines in the sand. Whether anyone likes it or not, one day, in the not too distant future, we will all blend back into one man. It IS inevitable.
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...we call that PATRIOTISM!!!:D :D :D
 
Clarification

First, thank you for all the PMs. If any have bounced or I have missed them please resend them as I have been a little slow to clear the box. 70 pms adds up quickly.

I am not the seller of these cases. GTF Cases is my client and they are the company that will be selling the cases to dealers.

The GTF website is not live because I have not provided them with the pictures of the completed cases yet.

I will be happy however to forward all inquiries to the GTF folks and they will get back to you shortly.

My sole contribution to these cases has been the construction and design. I personally do not receive one penny more or less for the sale of these cases.

My compensation comes in the form of the charges for the design and production development. So I can't sell anyone a GTF case directly.

However for those that want a custom GTF case I am available to work with you to design the case you want and see to it that it is made to your specifications.

Thank you for your time,

John
 
The best cue case period that are the best cases for cue protection. When you make statements like that, I assume you are talking about Jim Murnak's cases. They are by far the best, the most beautiful, the most functional, and offer, by far, the best protection. You should check them out before you try tooting your own horn. And they are hand made in the USA by a true artisan.
http://www.fist-inc.com/general leather/vintagecuemenu.htm
 
JB Cases said:
The 2x4 cases do have a pockets that will hold a jump cue and other stuff. As well future versions of the 1x2 will also have these pockets. Also any size can be customized to suit the customer's needs. We are a full custom shop where the only limitation is imagination and money.

The locks have been tested by me in various ways to try and break them. With two people pulling on both side we tried to make the locks break in any fashion. They bent but did not break and even after having tremendous force applied they still worked. If however one should break or fail or somehow break the case in some way then it will be covered under warranty.

I should point out that the tubing is somewhat stronger than what has been used in the past. Since I was able to go directly to the manufacturer of the tubes we worked on them for several weeks and many variations to get a formula that had the required strength and weight balance.

I jumped on an empty case repeatedly trying to break it to see what it could withstand. The only damage was a slight crack below the handle area. I wish I had captured this on video.

The cases are designed with a pressure fit that keep the lid on. I determined that between 8-10 kg of pressure was sufficient to keep the lid in place under the following conditions:

1. Picking the case up by the lid.
2. Holding the case upside down.
3. Sudden jarring with the case in the lid down position.

Each case is pressure tested to adhere to the 8-10kg standard. On a personal level I put my cues inside them and try to make the lid come off by forcibly making the cues come forward and hit the lid.

Which also is not easy because of the way I designed the interior. The interior is padded to hold the cues in place so that the contents don't spill out even if the lid is removed. Also the foam system in the lid is designed to act as a shock absorber to lessen the blow should the cues somehow be forced to hit the inside top of the lid. This is achieved by combining two densities of foam rubber.

I have put a LOT of thought into the engineering of this case. There are a few other benefits that GTF will reveal on their website.

I have considered all the limitations and tried to address them.

As to why this style faded from production, and let's please not forget that they have always been production cases for the most part, I also think it's because of the advent of the foam core Porper style and also because of the introduction of the Instroke style tube case. But not necessarily because either were a better design.

I think it was mostly because those two styles were easier to build and offered more choice in configurations and were something new and visually appealing.

And the other thing that signaled the demise of the style was distribution. Because Porper and Instroke enjoyed a wider distribution - and the copies of both an even larger distribution they became the most popular styles of cases for new players. I remember vividly meeting many players who had never even heard of It's George, much less Fellini, Centennial, or Thomas.

I have always admired this style and longed to build it. One thing I regret is never having ordered the custom George I always coveted.

Who knows what the market will do this time around? I don't. But I will say this, I am proud to be preserving a part of billiards history and bringing it to more people.

Cases are not that important in the grand scheme of things but holding one of these, my 1x2 in soft black nappa leather, when I walked into the poolroom in the Philippines, I felt like a player. No jump cue,no break cue, no towel, no accessories but me and my pool cue. I felt like I was transported back 30 years. There will be pockets for those that want them, there will be straps and handles, but for those that want to have that feeling of power that comes from just one one cue and their skill, this is the case for you.
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Well, it sounds like you addressed the issues, John. The advantage of these cases is they are light, compact, good looking, and durable.

It would be nice to see a custom tooled version - something not easy to find in the other makes. Maybe a removable pouch.

Chris
 
We can not let this thread die just because I went to a foreign country on a prescription medication run today.
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mixed feelings on the whole China issue but the pricing is certainly out of whack

if you can get that much for them, more power to you i guess

my issue goes to the legitimacy of a company who is charging so much for a product that is clearly priced well above the market, their thought proccess/research behind this decision (or lack thereof), and weather or not they'll be around in a year to support the product
 
Well, I have had a chance to see the (best cases period) now. And I must say what a lovely looking case indeed! less a couple minor issuses I see. But, since I am sick and tired of people useing cheap chineese labor to gut the US. industry, and line their pockets at that expense. I will not buy one. Instead, I will try to support my country (which deserves my support) and i will buy an original american version of this original american design. But, since I am broke right now I must fire my three american employees, and hire some illegal aliens to work for me so i can afford one.
 
jayman said:
Well, I have had a chance to see the (best cases period) now. And I must say what a lovely looking case indeed! less a couple minor issuses I see. But, since I am sick and tired of people useing cheap chineese labor to gut the US. industry, and line their pockets at that expense. I will not buy one. Instead, I will try to support my country (which deserves my support) and i will buy an original american version of this original american design. But, since I am broke right now I must fire my three american employees, and hire some illegal aliens to work for me so i can afford one.
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I wish I could give you rep for that last sentence but I gave you some yesterday,,,lol
 
hoosier_cues said:
I wish I could give you rep for that last sentence but I gave you some yesterday,,,lol
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Thanks! I did feel a little green this morning. :D
 
I actually just read this whole thread! Whew, I'm tired!

All this and for what? A stinkin' cue case. As if we don't have bigger things to concern ourselves with. Please don't get me started on GWB and his gang of thieves.

Someone said early on that the marketplace would determine the true value of JB's new case. And I have to agree. Ultimately the consumer decides what is a fair value. They vote with their wallets. I know I do.

I don't know how many true patriots are left in this once great nation of ours. It has become an egocentric society from what I can tell. I have Jewish friends (I'm a Jew also) who buy German made Mercedes and Porsche's without hesitation. How quickly we forget. And I've owned both cars as well.

But my last three daily drivers have been Lexus. Why, because it's a better value. It's that simple. I have one of John's new cases. And I like it. Compares well with similar cases being made by Ron Thomas. Is it a better value, I don't know. For me it is a perfect case to store a high end cue in. And right now my sole Szamboti has found its home. Compact, easy to carry and affords good protection. What more can I ask for.

Bottom line for me. To much "to due" over nothing. In the grand scheme of things, it's no big deal whether you buy his case or someone else's. There are many good cases out there, and John makes one of them. I don't care where they come from. We're all living on the same clump of dirt. And it ain't that big either.

A few hundred years from now and it will probably be only one world government anyway. If we can survive that long.

Be good to each other. We're all we got!
Happy New Year! Stay healthy!
 
speaking of Jews & German cars, I've got a jewish friend and his jewish friend will not buy a german car, but he did vote for Bush... Which is all just nuts to me. I know GWB is pro-israel, but his family is also uber-guilty of supporting the Nazi's during and long after WWII (even after it was made illegal to trade with the enemy)! The reasoning some people have is just off the wall sometimes.

Anyway, let's get back to that China bashing ;)
 
jay helfert said:
I actually just read this whole thread! Whew, I'm tired!

All this and for what? A stinkin' cue case. As if we don't have bigger things to concern ourselves with. Please don't get me started on GWB and his gang of thieves.

Someone said early on that the marketplace would determine the true value of JB's new case. And I have to agree. Ultimately the consumer decides what is a fair value. They vote with their wallets. I know I do.

I don't know how many true patriots are left in this once great nation of ours. It has become an egocentric society from what I can tell. I have Jewish friends (I'm a Jew also) who buy German made Mercedes and Porsche's without hesitation. How quickly we forget. And I've owned both cars as well.

But my last three daily drivers have been Lexus. Why, because it's a better value. It's that simple. I have one of John's new cases. And I like it. Compares well with similar cases being made by Ron Thomas. Is it a better value, I don't know. For me it is a perfect case to store a high end cue in. And right now my sole Szamboti has found its home. Compact, easy to carry and affords good protection. What more can I ask for.

Bottom line for me. To much "to due" over nothing. In the grand scheme of things, it's no big deal whether you buy his case or someone else's. There are many good cases out there, and John makes one of them. I don't care where they come from. We're all living on the same clump of dirt. And it ain't that big either.

A few hundred years from now and it will probably be only one world government anyway. If we can survive that long.

Be good to each other. We're all we got!
Happy New Year! Stay healthy!
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Yea, you'r right.
its just one more kick in balls for america. who cares. Its only afew lowly americans being put out of work again as jobs go to china. but who cares, they are just a drop in the bucket and dont realy matter. americans are doomed to loose there country and be enslaved and tortured and die in horrible ways..lets call the new place happyland!
its the big picture that makes all the small wounds count.
 
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