Totally agree Roadie. I suppose thats enough said.
The Break - Ball in Hand after the Break and the Five Ball
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Totally agree Roadie. I suppose thats enough said.
thats just funny.......
Yeah, surprised in the parking lot after getting clubbed and robbed.
You don't think SVB is a better player than Earl?? (sorry if the answer to this should be obvious from previous posts)
There are just people who play better on certain equipment simply because they have put the time in.
I think SVB plays better on Diamonds than Earl. I don't think he's a better all around player.
It's hard to call when one player is 50 and the other is 27, it's kind of like the argument of who's the best between Efren and Mosconi..nobody will ever know.
Well, point taken on Earl's game. But you opened up a new can!! Mosconi vs Efren? Efren would rob Mosconi at almost everything, and if he had to play straight pool, Efren would bone up on it and i'm sure it would be a great contest.... IMO. Best.
I've seen Efren run a couple of 100's playing straight pool...He shoots crazy shots, like banking the break ball cross side and going two rails into the stack. Mosconi's runs were always boring, predictable and repeatable.
I think Efren gets the nod in every discipline except for straight pool.
If you asked me who is better between Efren and and Earl, I wouldn't say anything, but I would give a pointed look in Efren's general direction.
Don't just pull it out and wave it , post it, so they know you are serious.
Thank goodness somebody on this forum understands.
These "who's the best" threads really get old after a while, and they're cyclical. We'll be posting to the same "who's the best" next year and again and again and again.
There is no "best" when it comes to players from different eras. Abraham Lincoln would be a racist by today's standards in 2011, but in his era, he was considered a savior.
Efren would have robbed Willie at one game only, One Pocket. Willie thought 9-Ball was a joke, way too easy for him. He could run out like water all day. His position play was probably as good or better than Efren's. Don't underestimate Mosconi. A few hustlers did and it was a costly lesson.
I've seen Efren run a couple of 100's playing straight pool...He shoots crazy shots, like banking the break ball cross side and going two rails into the stack. Mosconi's runs were always boring, predictable and repeatable.
I think Efren gets the nod in every discipline except for straight pool.
If you asked me who is better between Efren and and Earl, I wouldn't say anything, but I would give a pointed look in Efren's general direction.
How many of us have actually seen any of Mr. Mosconi's runs? Very few of us on this forum are qualified to make any statement about Mr. Mosconi's method of playing pool. If we go by book like the Hustler and the Champ then Mosconi was reported to have been a fairly quick player who didn't deliberate long about how to run the table.
Efren is a better player than Strickland simply by virtue of his creativity and temperament while playing. For tournaments Strickland is the greatest tournament 9-ball player using the US Open and the World 9 Ball as the yardstick. Using those events plus 8-ball, and the The Derby City Classic One Pocket Efren is the favorite.
How did this thread turn into this anyway? The point of the thread is that some players cannot win getting the breaks, ball-in-hand after the break, and the five. I imagine myself playing Efren with this spot and for some reason I cannot remain calm and I invariably lose position on one of the first five balls. It is sickening to me.
If I do not take this spot against the ghost then I run the first five more often than not. I do not understand the reason why one causes me more mental anguish than the other. This was the point of the thread and remains the point of the thread.
I suggest to all those who think that they can beat anyone in the world that they try. I know first hand that top pros will give big weight and gamble cheap to tune themselves up. So go get the weight and report your results. Tell us how you did rather than claiming who you would play and with what spot. It is embarrassing for me personally to know at this moment that I could not get there with this weight. Before I started this thread I would have said I would take that weight from any player and bet a lot on myself.
wise beyond your years!
Willie made the game look boring. He made it look like anybody in the world could learn to play like that pretty easily too, his best qualification as a factory rep other than his total professionalism in my opinion. Willie when he was on was the most awesome thing I have ever seen, until I saw Efren playing absolute magic in the 2006 one pocket semi's and finals at the Derby. Never-the-less, if I had a chance to bet on them both playing in their prime, I wouldn't. Efren might have had a higher gear once in a blue moon, I really think Willie would have taken him more often than not had they toured together or Efren would have had to step up his average game.
I have said it before but in over forty years only Willie and Efren have made me have to rethink what was possible on a pool table. If things were fair I'd owe Willie a train car load of jelly.
Hu
I've seen Efren run a couple of 100's playing straight pool...He shoots crazy shots, like banking the break ball cross side and going two rails into the stack. Mosconi's runs were always boring, predictable and repeatable.
I think Efren gets the nod in every discipline except for straight pool.
If you asked me who is better between Efren and and Earl, I wouldn't say anything, but I would give a pointed look in Efren's general direction.
Willie made the game look boring. He made it look like anybody in the world could learn to play like that pretty easily too, his best qualification as a factory rep other than his total professionalism in my opinion. Willie when he was on was the most awesome thing I have ever seen, until I saw Efren playing absolute magic in the 2006 one pocket semi's and finals at the Derby. Never-the-less, if I had a chance to bet on them both playing in their prime, I wouldn't. Efren might have had a higher gear once in a blue moon, I really think Willie would have taken him more often than not had they toured together or Efren would have had to step up his average game.
I have said it before but in over forty years only Willie and Efren have made me have to rethink what was possible on a pool table. If things were fair I'd owe Willie a train car load of jelly.
Hu
who did he rob?
If there was enough money in nine ball and one pocket back in Willies' day, I have no doubt he'd be a champ at that too. Maybe not dominate like he did at 14.1, but still do quite well.
People forget how good he was, and forget that Efren had problems crossing the finishing line in his early years.
BBIH and the five is robbery for any decent player who can maintain his game under pressure. You have to a real gambler, not someone who gets scared when cash is on the line, though, or you might fall apart and want to run and hide. Pressure changes everything...Phil Mickelson does a putting drill in golf where he makes 100 three foot putts in a row and yet has lost a couple majors from choking on short putts in big tournements and he's one of the best in the world.
People forget how good he was, and forget that Efren had problems crossing the finishing line in his early years.
BBIH and the five is robbery for any decent player who can maintain his game under pressure. You have to a real gambler, not someone who gets scared when cash is on the line, though, or you might fall apart and want to run and hide. Pressure changes everything...Phil Mickelson does a putting drill in golf where he makes 100 three foot putts in a row and yet has lost a couple majors from choking on short putts in big tournements and he's one of the best in the world.
I am one of those that believes until proven otherwise that I cannot be given that spot and lose.
It's probably good I don't have the bankroll to find out,because I would sure send it in,with anyone,regardless of table.
Chris has spotted the 8 to a guy that never offered me more than the 8,which as far as I can tell puts me like the 7 under him,but I've been wrong before.
Is the set they played before the TAR cancellation posted somewhere? Gotta see how it went,Tommy D.
It's probably good I don't have the bankroll to find out,because I would sure send it in,with anyone,regardless of table.
Chris has spotted the 8 to a guy that never offered me more than the 8,which as far as I can tell puts me like the 7 under him,but I've been wrong before.
Is the set they played before the TAR cancellation posted somewhere? Gotta see how it went,Tommy D.
Svb
I live in Japan and I have played Yukio the new world champion. I can't vouch for all of asia but there is no player in Japan that can give Shane weight or beat him even for that matter (10 ball to 100). I have played a few Tiawanese players including Yang and in a TAR format my money will always be on Shane.
I live in Japan and I have played Yukio the new world champion. I can't vouch for all of asia but there is no player in Japan that can give Shane weight or beat him even for that matter (10 ball to 100). I have played a few Tiawanese players including Yang and in a TAR format my money will always be on Shane.
I would like to take bet on Yang/Wu side any day if SVB matches up with them. I don't think SVB could have a chance in a long match with Yang. Just ask Jay!