The king of ten ball

The short list

real bartram said:
dennis orcullo
alex pag if alex is playing pol
lee van
busty
yang

list is short
ron alcano i think dead even
i will bet on all the players in my list
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OK. I appreciate your candor.

I just wanted to give Shane a short list that he can work on. I think he is the kind of guy who likes proving people wrong.

Maybe you're right and maybe you're not. At least Shane has a "short list" now.

I hope that Shane doesn't decide to play these guys non-stop one after the other day after day. That's not going to work. But if he prepares for each of them one at a time like he prepared for this event, he may change your mind and the mind of others.

Thanks,
 
JoeyA said:
OK. I appreciate your candor.

I just wanted to give Shane a short list that he can work on. I think he is the kind of guy who likes proving people wrong.

Maybe you're right and maybe you're not. At least Shane has a "short list" now.

I hope that Shane doesn't decide to play these guys non-stop one after the other day after day. That's not going to work. But if he prepares for each of them one at a time like he prepared for this event, he may change your mind and the mind of others.

Thanks,
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yes this list is short.
svb plays real good.
but there are guys over there i never heard of who beat him.
 
real bartram said:
i said svb plays great.
and i love that he will play those guys.
you think if i played like svb i wouldnt play them?
now back to this thread it says KING OF TEN BALL he is not.
KING OF TEN BALL USA PLAYERS HE IS.
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Well,

JCIN put it best - Shane isn't ducking anyone. He is the only one at DCC who matched up EVEN with Bustamante, Efren, and Alex.

Any of the guys on the list and including the Taiwanese can get played on TAR even with no spot. No one is stepping up to the plate.

Joey's post was just said as a fan would say it it wasn't meant to say that Shane is better than everyone else in the world, but clearly better at this tournament than everyone else in the tournament.

I think it says a lot that Justin's phone isn't being blown up by all the Filipino backers trying to arrange a TAR match. I mean $10,000 isn't a lot of money but you'd think that they would want to see it happen just for the pride factor.

It's not like they can't arrange it - those guys come to the USA all the time for tournaments.

Now you are the better handicapper by light years - but the way I see it in a race to 100 is that it's not much more than a coin flip these days.

Although I will say that I think Shane tends to get a little heart flutter now and then and make bad decisions at clutch time and maybe that's the difference.
 
Shane was breaking like a real champion. He sank 4 balls on his break several times. He ought to give lessons on how to squat the CB. It was a treat to watch.
 
JB Cases said:
Well,

JCIN put it best - Shane isn't ducking anyone. He is the only one at DCC who matched up EVEN with Bustamante, Efren, and Alex.

Any of the guys on the list and including the Taiwanese can get played on TAR even with no spot. No one is stepping up to the plate.

Joey's post was just said as a fan would say it it wasn't meant to say that Shane is better than everyone else in the world, but clearly better at this tournament than everyone else in the tournament.

I think it says a lot that Justin's phone isn't being blown up by all the Filipino backers trying to arrange a TAR match. I mean $10,000 isn't a lot of money but you'd think that they would want to see it happen just for the pride factor.

It's not like they can't arrange it - those guys come to the USA all the time for tournaments.

Now you are the better handicapper by light years - but the way I see it in a race to 100 is that it's not much more than a coin flip these days.

Although I will say that I think Shane tends to get a little heart flutter now and then and make bad decisions at clutch time and maybe that's the difference.
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if he plays anyone on my list
will you bet with me?
cause il bet whatever you would like.
and the thread said KING OF TEN BALL.
NOT KING OF TEN BALL AT GEM CITY.
 
real bartram said:
if he plays anyone on my list
will you bet with me?
cause il bet whatever you would like.
and the thread said KING OF TEN BALL.
NOT KING OF TEN BALL AT GEM CITY.
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Yeah I will bet a little on Shane. Last time when he played Alex I bet 100 on Alex when Alex was way behind and Alex pulled it out which is why I say Shane got a little heart flutter.

But I think Shane's got more seasoning now so I will certainly sweat bet on those matches. You have me for $200 a set if any of them go down. I know, I know it's not Bartram sized bet but since I think it's basically a coin flip that's what I am willing to bet on a coin flip.

As a matter of fact I will go you one better. It's July. Any time Shane plays even against any of the players on your list in any ten ball match - be it a tournament or matching up from now until the end of Derby City 2010 you and I have $200 on it per set.

Bet?
 
JB Cases said:
Yeah I will bet a little on Shane. Last time when he played Alex I bet 100 on Alex when Alex was way behind and Alex pulled it out which is why I say Shane got a little heart flutter.

But I think Shane's got more seasoning now so I will certainly sweat bet on those matches. You have me for $200 a set if any of them go down. I know, I know it's not Bartram sized bet but since I think it's basically a coin flip that's what I am willing to bet on a coin flip.

As a matter of fact I will go you one better. It's July. Any time Shane plays even against any of the players on your list in any ten ball match - be it a tournament or matching up from now until the end of Derby City 2010 you and I have $200 on it per set.

Bet?
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you can pm me when they play then and only then wil i bet.
but yes ill bet.
im not good on the net so i dont know when they play.
but anytime you pm me ill answer back and bet.
nothing wrong with 200 a set.
 
real bartram said:
you can pm me when they play then and only then wil i bet.
but yes ill bet.
im not good on the net so i dont know when they play.
but anytime you pm me ill answer back and bet.
nothing wrong with 200 a set.
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Please don't make me do that. I don't want to have to stalk Shane's movements. We can just go by the tournament records starting now.

Settle up each month. Ok?
 
JB Cases said:
Please don't make me do that. I don't want to have to stalk Shane's movements. We can just go by the tournament records starting now.

Settle up each month. Ok?
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no sir
i might not know when they play.
i bet at the us open they gamble .
we can bet a lil more on that.
 
In a 10-ball match with winner break I'll take a chance on Shane right now against anyone in the world. Johnnyt
 
real bartram said:
no sir
i might not know when they play.
i bet at the us open they gamble .
we can bet a lil more on that.
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All right then let me put it on you to pm me for the action. Anytime Shane is playing any of the Pinoys on your list from now til the end of DCC in an even set - tournament or gambling you have the action with me as long as you pm me and I confirm.

I won't come after you but if you think of it just hit me up.

Edited to add: we have to confirm before the match starts or no bet since you don't want to do it the way I proposed at first.
 
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one thing Shane did differently...

I was at the tourny as well & I did notice one thing Shane did differently than the rest of the field.

He was consistently at the tables. On Saturday afternoon I watched him hit break shots for 2 hours. Saturday night after all the matches were done and the room cleared out the 14 tourny tables were quite, all except one. The one Shane was at practicing table length straight and cut shots.

Most players would warm up, some hit balls when not playing but the only player I saw "seriously working on his game" was Shane

He should be getting more out of his game, he's putting more in to it
 
I must agree with you his break is so powerful what do you think his key is to his break that make it that good?
 
crawfish said:
I am a huge Johnny fan to start off. But, Shane was at a different level than the other players. Said it the whole time I watched. It's amazing how when someone missed on the one or two, no matter the layout, they knew it was over. And the break? Two, three, and four balls while squatting whitey.

I can't see anyone beating that kid from the US right now. It was something to watch. And he did this to ggogooood players, too. The Donnie match was amazing. Donnie did miss a couple of balls that put Shane in gear, but wow. Anyway, I see why nobody is chasin' this kid down for action. If he gets any more "head consistent", he'll be scarier than he already is.
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I know what you mean Craw,when are you vacationing to the beach?We have a couple of tournys running,And I will give you a line on some near by action.Talk to later
 
JoeyA said:
Shane Van Boening really showed me something this past weekend at the Seminole Ten Ball Pro Tour stop in Marietta, Georgia.

I was able to watch many matches throughout the weekend due to my quick elimination from the tournament. (I went two and out).

I sat in on a couple of matches to provide some commentary for the BIG TRUCK show. It was quite a weekend, playing, albeit, not playing well enough to win any matches but still lots of fun.

As I watched Shane's some of Shane's matches I started getting really interested in what he was doing. I have seen players dominate other players in matches on occasion but no one dominates all of the time, not like this.

I volunteered and asked to do the commentary for the finals match and was granted that privilege. I probably didn't do as good a job as I can do because I was kind of in awe at what I was seeing but Johnny DiToro who has a remarkable understanding of the game helped make the commentary for the finals match, one of my most enjoyable matches.

Most of you know some of the scores on his matches and the 9-1, 9-2, 9-3's, 9-5 and 11-3 and of course Shane's winning of the tournament, only tell part of the tale. I saw many things in Shane this weekend and they were all positive things. Things like humility, skill extraordinaire, the ability to enjoy himself playing the sport that makes him look like THE KING of TEN BALL. Shane has always been a composed player not letting much affect his demeanor but this weekend, he kicked his composure up multiple notches. Shane was relaxed and HE KNEW that no other player would best him on this weekend.

Shane had a KNOWING look in his demeanor the entire weekend and even when he would miss an occasional shot (that didn't happen often), he sat down almost in resignation and silent disgust that he didn't end the match sooner than later. Ten Ball is a very difficult game and there were plenty of new rules this weekend to make it even more difficult but Shane looks like he has MASTERED Ten Ball.

It appears that Shane PREPARED to win and nothing could stop The South Dakota Kid from dominating this tournament. Hopefully, AZB Radio or the magazines will be doing some interviews with him to determine what he did to prepare for this event.

If Shane stays at this level and the rest of the players don't find a way to MASTER the break of Ten Ball, no player will be able to defeat Shane until he decides that the preparation is no longer worth the effort.

Shane's skill at pocketing balls and making incredibly consistent shape was second to none in this tournament but his break this weekend was the most incredible thing I have ever seen.

I love pool competition whether its me trying to compete or someone else being stretched to their physical limits so all I can say is that for any of the other professional players to have a chance at competing with Shane at Ten Ball, THEY are going to have to learn how to master the ten ball break. Until then, there can only be one.

The truth is that there are great players all over the world but America is still capable of producing some of the GREATEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD.

Shane is an inspiration to today's players and will be so for future generations of pool players. A well defined legacy is in the making.

Congratulations Shane!

P.S. It was a great weekend to be a fan and you should have been there. Don't miss another opportunity to witness greatness in the making.
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Great post, Joey! Thanks for sharing your impressions and insights. I haven't had the pleasure to see Shane live, but enjoy watching the TAR CD of his money match with Alex. Also, want to obtain the CD of his US Open win.
 
swilliams said:
I must agree with you his break is so powerful what do you think his key is to his break that make it that good?
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His Break Shot is powerful for 3 reasons;

Practice (Muscle Memory development)
Rhythm & Coordination in the physical delivery (product of practice)
Knowledge of what to do... (experience)
 
What a Spoilsport!

joelpope said:
I was at the tourny as well & I did notice one thing Shane did differently than the rest of the field.

He was consistently at the tables. On Saturday afternoon I watched him hit break shots for 2 hours. Saturday night after all the matches were done and the room cleared out the 14 tourny tables were quite, all except one. The one Shane was at practicing table length straight and cut shots.

Most players would warm up, some hit balls when not playing but the only player I saw "seriously working on his game" was Shane

He should be getting more out of his game, he's putting more in to it
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There you go telling us that talent is 10% inspiration and 90% perspiration. We want to believe that it is some ungodly gift that lets these people be great so that there isn't a large portion of self blame that we never reach the heights.

The people that really knew described Muhammad Ali as the hardest training boxer that ever lived. Wayne Gretsky the same in hockey. A man that has dominated his sport like few in any sport, Tony Boyer, was well known for practicing and tuning long hours before and after everyone else had went home or was sitting around drinking beer too.

We are all born with certain mental and physical assets, some more than others. With very few exceptions it is what we do with those gifts that tells the story. It sounds like whatever else Shane has, he has a work ethic that lets him take full advantage of his abilities.

Hu
 
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