Tony Vs Dennis Chit Chat Thread

wahcheck said:
Did someone actually do this? It's the same as betting on a race to 26, giving
Tony 6 games on the wire........I would guess lots of people would take that bet....
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it was 19-14 when they actually made bet after Dennis won a few in row but still if anyone watched most of 2 days it's clear who's in driver seat.
 
why I watch

In response to Quesports in post #220:

I watch this one pocket match because it's a big money action match; I did watch some of Tony v.s. SVB match too......It's not so much that I like watching 1Pocket, especially as slow as it gets sometimes, I am interested because of the high stakes. If they were playing race to 40 for $1000, I probably wouldn't watch. Yesterday was especially hard to watch, with Dennis looking at the table many times, getting down, practice stroking like he was finally going to shoot the shot, then getting up again......I don't know if he's doing that slowdown deliberately to affect Tony's game or whether he is just having a hard time making decisions on what shot to take, but it gets pretty annoying or maybe frustrating to watch.
 
If you are the guy that is supposed to win and Dennis is that guy; when your opponent shows no fear, is firing away and winning, this can do strange things to your head.

Tony has to keep the pressure on if he wants to win and play the aggressive assertive one pocket that has brought him victory so far.

If he allows Dennis to get confident that will not work. If a guy like Dennis does not feel fear he will run right over you.
 
ideologist said:
My eyes betray me on cuts to the right, so I prefer the left pocket. I know "conventional" One Hole players say I am wrong, but I prefer it that way and love when my opponent breaks to the right pocket.
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I just tend to break better, with more confidence and consistency to the left pocket. To compensate I've taught myself to shoot the shots I cannot reach as a righty by shooting them southpaw.

Lou Figueroa
 
pt109 said:
^^^^^
This is the bottom line...you break to the pocket the table favors.....
...on a perfect table, righties and lefties would break to opposite pockets...
...but the REAL bottom line...THE BREAKER DETERMINES WHICH POCKET
HE BREAKS TO
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Thank you.

Lou Figueroa
 
skip100 said:
AtLarge, do you have statistics on how often these guys win on their breaks in one-pocket?
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I believe his last big match analysis put it at closer to a ball advantage.

I think that at the higher levels this would be true because the break is pretty much going to be the break. The difference is that at the higher levels they have the shots to get out of the break that the lesser player does not have or cannot execute consistently. So for mere mortals the break in a match is worth more.

Lou Figueroa
 
wahcheck said:
In response to Quesports in post #220:

I watch this one pocket match because it's a big money action match; I did watch some of Tony v.s. SVB match too......It's not so much that I like watching 1Pocket, especially as slow as it gets sometimes, I am interested because of the high stakes. If they were playing race to 40 for $1000, I probably wouldn't watch. Yesterday was especially hard to watch, with Dennis looking at the table many times, getting down, practice stroking like he was finally going to shoot the shot, then getting up again......I don't know if he's doing that slowdown deliberately to affect Tony's game or whether he is just having a hard time making decisions on what shot to take, but it gets pretty annoying or maybe frustrating to watch.
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Yea I agree with all you have said. In fact I have said in the past that watching one pocket is like watching paint dry! BUT it is a different animal when Tony is playing or any of the top echelon one pocket players. The tempo of yesterdays match seemed pretty consistent until a certain point then Dennis did slow things down. It does get less enjoyable when that happens but I guess that is just part of the game. When it gets real slow I do lose interest. I am now at T Rex believer though, when he is on it is something special!
 
Thanks

Quesports said:
Yea I agree with all you have said. In fact I have said in the past that watching one pocket is like watching paint dry! BUT it is a different animal when Tony is playing or any of the top echelon one pocket players. The tempo of yesterdays match seemed pretty consistent until a certain point then Dennis did slow things down. It does get less enjoyable when that happens but I guess that is just part of the game. When it gets real slow I do lose interest. I am now at T Rex believer though, when he is on it is something special!
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I am pulling for TRex; I actually played him in a tournament once.....he ran over me like I wasn't even there......afterward he was nicely complimentary of my game......I saw close up this guy's talent and beautiful stroke....his cue ball control is fantastic....
 
jojopiff said:
If it's relevant to the on-going pissing match. I don't know anyone so completely unbiased opinion. I never, not for one second, was under the impression Black Balled meant it was a hard and fast rule. I took when he said "generally" that he meant more times than not (which can simply mean 51% of the time) people break at the same pocket because most players are righties and they usually break for the hole where they can reach the table better. All things being equal, most righties would break at the same hole. Key phrase is all things being equal. Table breaks same from both sides, no roll off, etc. Not sure how someone is supposed to phrase their opinion if they can't assume "all things being equal". Is one supposed to preface their statement with "well if the table breaks better to this side but rolls of on this side then I'd break from here but I'm a righty and so I'll break from this side cause I feel like I can reach a little better and that offsets the 1/4" role".
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When me and my buddy play, I always break to the opposite pocket than he does - only reason is so I don't forget which pocket I have! Always the same every game
 
Robo gonna bring it today. Snug this match up for our enjoyment and the Cheese. I heard his Meucci accidently disappeared last nite outside his Hotel room door while sleeping. Oh well, gonna have to resort to his 'B' player :groucho:

Have a good evening,

-Kat,
 
lfigueroa said:
I believe his last big match analysis put it at closer to a ball advantage.

I think that at the higher levels this would be true because the break is pretty much going to be the break. The difference is that at the higher levels they have the shots to get out of the break that the lesser player does not have or cannot execute consistently. So for mere mortals the break in a match is worth more.

Lou Figueroa
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What does a 1-ball advantage factor out to in terms of game-win probability?

I'm just trying to get a sense of how deep a hole Dennis is in.
 
Dave-Kat said:
Robo gonna bring it today. Snug this match up for our enjoyment and the Cheese. I heard his Meucci accidently disappeared last nite outside his Hotel room door while sleeping. Oh well, gonna have to resort to his 'B' player :groucho:

Have a good evening,

-Kat,
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I find this interesting ... some folks grasp at straws and some pool players grasp for wooden sticks .. lol
 
wahcheck said:
I am pulling for TRex; I actually played him in a tournament once.....he ran over me like I wasn't even there......afterward he was nicely complimentary of my game......I saw close up this guy's talent and beautiful stroke....his cue ball control is fantastic....
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I played him once too. Same result. :)

Have you made it down to watch any of this in person? I was there Tuesday night and probably go back down there tomorrow night.
 
sixpack said:
I played him once too. Same result. :)

Have you made it down to watch any of this in person? I was there Tuesday night and probably go back down there tomorrow night.
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I was there watching the 9 ball tournament Sunday afternoon, but haven't gone back. So easy to watch it online. Man, the 3rd day match just started; Jay is narrating, constantly berating Dennis' game, how he seems lost, etc. etc. but the funny thing is Dennis won the first game and might be on his way to winning the 2nd.
 
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