trying to make shane van boeing look like a super star

f210 said:
Yeah, you are right.
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I am sure what you wrote was great but I stopped reading right after the sentence quoted above.

Just kidding. I agree with what you are saying. Nobody is invicible. Tiger Woods is the best golfer in the world but still loses, Roger Federer is the best tennis player in the world and still loses. Anybody can lose on any given day. Shane is an awesome pool player and I would be afraid to bet against him in almost any game no matter who he is playing. I don't think he has reached his top speed yet. JMHO

BVal
 
jwilliams said:
Im also a little curious as to why everyone thinks Earl would have definitely won agains SVB in his prime 10 years ago...it was almost exactly 10 years ago that Earl lost to Efren in a race to a 120 and Earl played phenomenal and Efren played like crap until the final day.
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IMO Earl was at his best circa 1988. That's the Earl I'd like to see match up. I've seen Earl beat Efren when Efren played almost perfect pool.
 
SVB is a superstar in pool..no question.

That said, I think any action match with Shane vs a top caliber Pinoy will get a lot of interest. I personally like some of the Pinoys over SVB still. He is going to have to prove it to alot of folks he can beat the world's best and the original posters main point is a good one. As of right now whether SVB can beat the absolute cream of the Pinoy crop is not decided. Shane should move to Manila for a few months and battle with them all. It will do his game good and he will likely make money.
 
I sure wish TAR would announce the next action match. Sucks ass to be sitting here with nothing on the calender.
 
f210 said:
Yeah, you are right. What I am trying to say is that SVB in NOT invincible. He is no doubt the best player in America right now but to conclude that he is the unbeatable and the best in the world is debatable. At their level of play any of the top players in the world can beat each other at any given time.

With regards to beating some players in the Philippines like De Luna, Gabica, Luat. They are hardly the cream of the crop nor IMHO do they belong to the top tier. Kiamco beat him so does that mean that Kiamco is better than Shane? In the last tournament in the Philippines right after the WPC, there were 9 world champions (Efren, Alcano, Wu, Chao, Alex, Hohmann, Souquet, Archer) and excellent players like Feijen, Corteza, Orcullo, Gomez, Stepanov but the top 4 consisted of 3 players who you would never expect to be in those spots. Players who you have never heard of beat world champion after world champion.

Don't get me wrong. I think Shane is great and the best thing that ever happened to American pool but I think his next action challenge match should
be against somebody who would test his skills. I recommend Lee Van Corteza, Dennis Orcullo, Bustamante or even Efren Reyes.
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This is good post.

If the game is played in USA, like I believe it will (at least if it's TAR Challenge - of course Shane might get back to Phils soon again also), then Lee Van might be little weaker than Dennis, probably weaker than Dyango, Ronnie, Efren and Alex also. If it's played in Philippines, Lee Van should be on the line straight after Dennis.
Anyway, I believe Shane might be the best, but to prove that, he must still win those race-to-hudred's for some time.
There's long line of Filipinos waiting, but I'd say when he has beaten Orcullo and let's say 3-5 of the Top Filipinos, then we can stop this discussion here :o)

Until then, he's still the reigning TAR Challenge Trophy Holder, let's see who will be the next to give it a try. (If he's not soon a filipino, the TAR Challenge Trophy loses it's meaning a bit ;))
 
At One Side I was standing with Niels, watching Shane playing some 9-ball. I asked Niels if he wanted to challenge Shane for a big $ match, and he said that right now, Shane was too hot playing for money.
 
Marvel said:
This is good post.

If the game is played in USA, like I believe it will (at least if it's TAR Challenge - of course Shane might get back to Phils soon again also), then Lee Van might be little weaker than Dennis, probably weaker than Dyango, Ronnie, Efren and Alex also. If it's played in Philippines, Lee Van should be on the line straight after Dennis.
Anyway, I believe Shane might be the best, but to prove that, he must still win those race-to-hudred's for some time.
There's long line of Filipinos waiting, but I'd say when he has beaten Orcullo and let's say 3-5 of the Top Filipinos, then we can stop this discussion here :o)

Until then, he's still the reigning TAR Challenge Trophy Holder, let's see who will be the next to give it a try. (If he's not soon a filipino, the TAR Challenge Trophy loses it's meaning a bit ;))
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Actually, I may add, that Efren and Dyango are different generation from Dennis, Lee Van, Alex and even Ronnie. Of course it would be nice to see Shane battle with all of them (if possible race-to-100), but I'd still leave, if it doesn't take too long, the King, the Capo Di Tutti Capi, to take the last try. If Shane beats Dennis, Lee Van, Alex, Ronnie, then let him try Dyango, and if even Dyango cannot take Shane down, then let's see if Shane can take the thrown from the King Himeself - Efren.
Efren is not so consistent anymore, not so good either, but if needed, I'd guess he's still the best.
If Shane beats 'the guardians' and the 'bodyguard', he'll get to try The King. If he beats The King, Pinoys have to swallow the defeat..

If all this can be done in one year, Efren might still stand up.

I'm sure if Shane goes back to Manila, which was rumoured already, he will get lots of action every night, and at some point all these matches are going to happen, but unless it's not a TAR Challenge but some 'unofficial race-to-21' match up, it doesn't have the same value IMHO.
The benefit of the home turf -aspect is too difficult to solve, as the prize money is not the same as in Heavy Weight Boxing, so let's just forget that..
 
Be very careful!!!

No doubt SVB is playing great right now, but don't think for a minute that Efren and can't should be mentioned in the same sentence. I have personally witnessed his near perfect performances many times. I watched the whole match between Earl and SVB and yes SVB did miss balls, and yes SVB did come up dry on several occasions, so my point is until they start calling him the magician lets see what tommorow brings. I do remember seeing a post from Jay that said SVB did lose a $ match at the WPC. Efren is hitting balls right now, because now he has a reason to get up!!!:D Time will tell..............
 
Does anyone know if Shane plans on entering the banks or one pocket events at DCC this year?

He's killing 'em at 8,9, and 10-ball but at some point you'd think he might want to stretch out into the other games.

With his success right now, I'm not sure if it would be too early. I understand if he would decide to just keep on playing his best games while he's playing as good as anyone in the world.

I wonder what an old schooler like Incardona, Grady or Freddie would say.

As far as the next action challenge goes, tell Yang to fly his ass over here and play on US soil :)
 
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lol this is classic haterizing.

This original post boils down to "I'm sick of hearing dudes ride shane's nuts just cuz he's kicking so much ass, so I'll stir up his fan club by making excuses to knock him". Add a safe little "no offense! I'm just sayin'!" comment and you spell classic forum hater :B

I guess shane's ducking by playing a guy like earl who's past his prime. Nevermind it's a freaking HOF player who still beats all but like a dozen people on the planet. How old's corey by the way, like 47-48? His eyes are starting to go but he still shoots sporty. Shane also somehow fluked a win vs that fish alcano in the US Open.

I normally ignore this sort of thing but I'd just listened to the JS podcast where he seemed to go out of his way to stress the old favorite "just cuz he beat earl doesn't mean he's the best player, just the best this week". It seemed a little hater-ish too tho john's pretty gracious about it and doesn't really put him down. At least that's a fair way of saying "he's great but maybe not everything people are saying". That's a lot better than this crap that makes it sound like he's ducking and picking on people who don't play his speed. Christ, how many world champions do you want the guy to play each month for 5 figures?! His win vs earl is only a day or two old, give the poor guy five minutes to arrange the next matchup before you start pissing about about all the guys he's 'avoiding'.
 
bud green said:
Does anyone know if Shane plans on entering the banks or one pocket events at DCC this year?

He's killing 'em at 8,9, and 10-ball but at some point you'd think he might want to stretch out into the other games.

With his success right now, I'm not sure if it would be too early. I understand if he would decide to just keep on playing his best games while he's playing as good as anyone in the world.

I wonder what an old schooler like Incardona, Grady or Freddie would say.

As far as the next action challenge goes, tell Yang to fly his ass over here and play on US soil :)
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Lol...again with the "why won't he play one-pocket." From what I hear, he's becoming a pretty solid one-pocket player but give him a little time. I mean he's just started playing the game.

What's with all this talk about getting these guys from overseas to come play. I think you might need to offer them a little more than 10 grand to have them fly halfway across the world. Yang and Orcollo are fine, but I'd have to say Shane, Alcano, and Niels are the hottest guys in pool right now. None of them live anywhere near each other so matching them up would take some work.
 
bud green said:
Does anyone know if Shane plans on entering the banks or one pocket events at DCC this year?
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i don't think shane played in any of the dcc events last year even the 9 ball he just gambled the entire time
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Johnson said:
i don't think shane played in any of the dcc events last year even the 9 ball he just gambled the entire time
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Isn't that what DCC's for. Maybe they should just get rid of the tournaments altogether.
 
Drew said:
What's with all this talk about getting these guys from overseas to come play. I think you might need to offer them a little more than 10 grand to have them fly halfway across the world. Yang and Orcollo are fine, but I'd have to say Shane, Alcano, and Niels are the hottest guys in pool right now. None of them live anywhere near each other so matching them up would take some work.
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With filipinos the matching up shouldn't be too hard to organize, as they travel to States few times a year anyway..
 
CreeDo said:
How old's corey by the way, like 47-48? His eyes are starting to go but he still shoots sporty...
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Man, oh, man, you should really do a little research before you make an ignorant comment like that about Corey Deuel.

He won the U.S. Open in 2001 and was tied with Sigel for being the youngest player to have win it at the age of 22.

I don't even think Corey is 30 yet, but if he is, he just turned 30.

JAM
 
JAM said:
Man, oh, man, you should really do a little research before you make an ignorant comment like that about Corey Deuel.

He won the U.S. Open in 2001 and was tied with Sigel for being the youngest player to have win it at the age of 22.

I don't even think Corey is 30 yet, but if he is, he just turned 30.

JAM
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JAM, hon.... I think he was joking... LOL
 
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