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Pool is nowhere near where people want it to be or think it should be. This isn't golf, tennis or poker. To survive as a professional pool player, you eat what you kill. Pool players have been taken advantage of many many times because of lack of money, lack of proper direction and business knowledge. At the same time, exposure is exposure and you never know what could come out of it.

Lets take a look at golf for example and their most popular player, Tiger Woods. Tiger makes dough, we all know that. When he's playin in the field, no matter if he's in first or last, he's on tv. Golf on TV exploded when Tiger came around. Everyone involved profited. CBS, ESPN, NBC etc went to town putting golf on tv. However, Tiger doesn't get paid a penny from the networks. The PGA and whatever network produces the coverage that event own the rights to all of that footage to use, sell or show however they see fit. When Nike wants to make a Tiger commercial with some of his historic shots, Nike pays the PGA rights to that footage. The PGA provides Tiger with a platform to play, money to be won and the opportunity to sponsors.

Now that might not be the same for all things. I'm not sure how poker on tv works. They may pay the poker players an appearance fee. That, I'm not sure of. Maybe Dippy could chime in on that.

But to be honest, the pool world is almost better to the players than big time sports. TAR for example pays the players a flat rate for all of their PPV events. The problem is, pool doesn't have the coverage of golf. They don't have the big dollar sponsors or huge market to push products on like golf. Its just a small community of people with larger than life expectations. You cannot blame the players for thinking the sky SHOULD be the limit, it just doesn't work like that.

So by the players being on dvds, live streams etc, they might be making money directly from this they may in the future. I know I'm more likely to donate to Alex or Efren because of the magic they've shown me on my computer screen than some mid level professional that never makes the tv table. Or even lessons... I can't imagine Alex being a good instuctor, bouncing around and busting into Elvis every 10 minutes is not a great learning environment, but I would pay $100/hour to hear what he has to say.

So while he may make $0 from his one pocket challenge dvd from Jay/tv mike, he can win a couple hundred playing me because of it and more than likely make more than jay/tvmike do off dvd sales.


I REP'ed you a short answere, I'm sworn to secrecry on that stuff.

Your right on this post as well, the audience sizes are so small its hard to find $$ for anyone.

for example if TAR on a PPV event; pays me $500 to play a big name player who gets say $1500. Because of the big bet and the champion not because of me thus the 25:75 split between the 2 players. Lets say they get 500 PPV buys Now TAR has paid $2000 to the players to come play (I get less because I dont have any fan base). That works out to $4 per PPV buyer $2000/500 buys paid to the players. Thats pretty strong and generous of TAR and for that the players sign a release and waive any future rights to their likeness from that event, its now TAR's property. Thats good biz the players got paid.

I threw myself in the example just for perspective, it could be $1000 each to each player if it was SVB/Earl. Or is Keith popped up he might get more because there would be a huge audience.

Now bearing in mind $4/PPV to the players is pretty good, if TAR got 5000 buys and paid $4/household to the players they would be chopping up $20,000 not $2,000. How nice would it be if he got 50,000 PPV and the players were chopping up $200,000.

Player compensation should be a function of audience size with a minimum guarantee. The NCAA players get robbed by the schools they go to.


If I ran a event where I was tapeing it and making $$$ off it, I would be sure the players got paid based on sales, thats whats nice about PPV you know what you sold as it happens. Selling videos(soon to be a thing of the past IMO) its more difficult to caluate what to pay them, so they currently get paid by some guys quarterly for each video sold-thats a stand up way too-pay them based on sales. Or pay the players on the PPV and video sales/downloads(the future of all media, not tapes/discs). This way players have a pipeline of income. Same as they do for actors. Or give the player a choice-more $$$ up front on the PPV and they waive any future rights to that match/event what ever the case may be.


Its wrong to go stream guys and sell the PPV and not pay the players, IMO if there is a gate the should get some of that, I know there is $$ added so that helps and might wash out to be fair.

The amateurs who are streamed at regional tournaments cant reasonably expect to be paid, I'm talking about the pro's.


Thats how I see it. TAR is very fair and Pat is as well. I dont know whatthe other guys are doing so I wont comment on them because I cant-I would be guessing and I dont guess. I'll be positive and assue they are doing the right thing by way of the players, because with out them what do we have??? I sure am not knocking anyone here, I'm grateful to all the people streaming events.


And yes I know if I was on a PPV the numbers would be very low, I'm realistic about that, I used myself to show the upfront $$$ dont have to be 50/50. In my example it was 25% to me and 75% to the champion. Now if the numbers were tracked from event to event it might be some what predictable for some players, We all know Earl draws big numbers, I believe Keith would be the biggest draw right now(if he played great he would be a big draw for a long time), Shane is a big draw. Fatboy aint a draw.


see where I'm going with this, looking at the numbers and being able to place a value on players, they do in the NBA. We are just dealong with 3 or 4 or even 5 less 0's on our audience sizes and respectable pay-outs. A 2000 person audience is 40 people per state, there is zero $$ with those numbers.


Ok, back to arguing about $400, instead of putting energy into what I was talking about here. the $400 is clearly more important than permanent solutions to get players paid.:cool:


But what do I know??


best
Fatboy:)
 
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I REP'ed you a short answere, I'm sworn to secrecry on that stuff.

Your right on this post as well, the audience sizes are so small its hard to find $$ for anyone.

for example if TAR on a PPV event; pays me $500 to play a big name player who gets say $1500. Because of the big bet and the champion not because of me thus the 25:75 split between the 2 players. Lets say they get 500 PPV buys Now TAR has paid $2000 to the players to come play (I get less because I dont have any fan base). That works out to $4 per PPV buyer $2000/500 buys paid to the players. Thats pretty strong and generous of TAR and for that the players sign a release and waive any future rights to their likeness from that event, its now TAR's property. Thats good biz the players got paid.

I threw myself in the example just for perspective, it could be $1000 each to each player if it was SVB/Earl. Or is Keith popped up he might get more because there would be a huge audience.

Now bearing in mind $4/PPV to the players is pretty good, if TAR got 5000 buys and paid $4/household to the players they would be chopping up $20,000 not $2,000. How nice would it be if he got 50,000 PPV and the players were chopping up $200,000.

Player compensation should be a function of audience size with a minimum guarantee. The NCAA players get robbed by the schools they go to.


If I ran a event where I was tapeing it and making $$$ off it, I would be sure the players got paid based on sales, thats whats nice about PPV you know what you sold as it happens. Selling videos(soon to be a thing of the past IMO) its more difficult to caluate what to pay them, so they currently get paid by some guys quarterly for each video sold-thats a stand up way too-pay them based on sales. Or pay the players on the PPV and video sales/downloads(the future of all media, not tapes/discs). This way players have a pipeline of income. Same as they do for actors. Or give the player a choice-more $$$ up front on the PPV and they waive any future rights to that match/event what ever the case may be.


Its wrong to go stream guys and sell the PPV and not pay the players, IMO if there is a gate the should get some of that, I know there is $$ added so that helps and might wash out to be fair.

The amateurs who are streamed at regional tournaments cant reasonably expect to be paid, I'm talking about the pro's.


Thats how I see it. TAR is very fair and Pat is as well. I dont know whatthe other guys are doing so I wont comment on them because I cant-I would be guessing and I dont guess. I'll be positive and assue they are doing the right thing by way of the players, because with out them what do we have??? I sure am not knocking anyone here, I'm grateful to all the people streaming events.


And yes I know if I was on a PPV the numbers would be very low, I'm realistic about that, I used myself to show the upfront $$$ dont have to be 50/50. In my example it was 25% to me and 75% to the champion. Now if the numbers were tracked from event to event it might be some what predictable for some players, We all know Earl draws big numbers, I believe Keith would be the biggest draw right now(if he played great he would be a big draw for a long time), Shane is a big draw. Fatboy aint a draw.


see where I'm going with this, looking at the numbers and being able to place a value on players, they do in the NBA. We are just dealong with 3 or 4 or even 5 less 0's on our audience sizes and respectable pay-outs. A 2000 person audience is 40 people per state, there is zero $$ with those numbers.


Ok, back to arguing about $400, instead of putting energy into what I was talking about here. the $400 is clearly more important than permanent solutions to get players paid.:cool:


But what do I know??


best
Fatboy:)

I think you have the right idea Eric and obviously with your success in life you are a smart man. Basically the same concept as a prize fighter's fee based on their popularity. Now if this could actually get organized without a pi***** contest like most things do in the pool world with the bright future streaming may have players could certainly benefit from it.
 
The ncaa player's are amateurs that's why they don't get paid....yet. It's kind of like there minor league if you will.
 
:wave3: hey mike! Looks like your gonna be working at walmart now! It doesn't sound like you have the brain power to do anything else! :rotflmao1: give it up dude, no one wants to support your sketchy business anymore. Have fun making $250.00 a week (if that)! A benefit for someone else doesn't mean helping yourself! Piece of trash........... After I found out the details of what happened to Dawn, and then seeing what you had to say, I'm just sickened. No wonder Jason Hunt took you in, he recognized a fellow scum bag!

Do we need more popcorn?? Are you referring to what has been said on here or is there more??? lol Nothing would be a surprise,,,really!!
 
TV-Mike

As a guy who lurks every day on AZB and seldom pipes up, I have to add my $.02 here. I have read each and every one of the comments of this thread and I just can't believe that TVMike is as business-stupid as he seems to be. With his rants on his financial nothings and his suicide blatherings, I felt, and was later convinced....with his own words....that his IQ is about six points lower than a cucumber.

After reading what he said about Dawn Fital's Memorial, for a woman who was brutally murdered and stuffed into a suitcase and then sunk into a slimy, humid and soggy swamp, it told me everything I need to know about this insane man's character. I knew Dawn personally as she has played in my tournaments, and I am aghast at his crass, uncouth, unbusinesslike, boorish and crybaby attitude about this and his crude business dealings with Jay.

Jay, as far as I'm concerned, has an unimpeachable history of doing the right thing and honoring ALL commitments. This whole fiasco is about principle, not money. I thank you Jay for putting this on the table. TVMike, on the other hand, in the small amount of time he has been around here, has burned just about every bridge he has crossed.

TVMike, you need to read the Dale Carnegie book, "How To Win Friends And Influence People", and when you firmly grasp the priciples put forth, sashay down to McDonalds and apply for a job.
 
The ncaa player's are amateurs that's why they don't get paid....yet. It's kind of like there minor league if you will.

Minor league baseball players get paid to.. just not well. They don't draw a crowd and can only pay what they can bring in.

Works the same with pool. You cannot add money that you cannot recoup back. If you do, you will run out of money.
 
The question of players getting paid for streams and DVD sales really is a non-issue right now. I agree with Fatboy, for the money involved it is just not worth anyone's time (players included) to fight over it. If the dollars involved made sense then it would be a viable topic and I can see both sides of it. Yes, actors get residuals. but most athletes in other sports do not participate in TV revenue or rights fees. Frankly, with the amount of money that exists to go around it seems to me that if there was a legal foundation that athletes were entitled to residuals then promoters would probably require players to sign waivers to enter the event to begin with. Realistically, what player would refuse to sign (and thus not play) for the potential $20 or so they might make over several years off a stream and subsequent DVD sales? The pie just isn't big enough and I just don't see it right now that promoters and streamers are getting rich at the expense of the players. The whole business of professional pool is struggling right now and the status quo is barely good enough to keep it going. Yes, the players are integral to an event, no doubt, but they are not the only ones that make professional pool possible. The promoters and streamers are part of the equation too. Without all of them I doubt we would have any professional pool at all.

As for college athletes getting paid, believe it or not there are two sides to that debate and I'm not sure I'm in favor of it. But that topic deserves its own thread and would only highjack this one.
 
as a guy who lurks every day on azb and seldom pipes up, i have to add my $.02 here. I have read each and every one of the comments of this thread and i just can't believe that tvmike is as business-stupid as he seems to be. With his rants on his financial nothings and his suicide blatherings, i felt, and was later convinced....with his own words....that his iq is about six points lower than a cucumber.

After reading what he said about dawn fital's memorial, for a woman who was brutally murdered and stuffed into a suitcase and then sunk into a slimy, humid and soggy swamp, it told me everything i need to know about this insane man's character. I knew dawn personally as she has played in my tournaments, and i am aghast at his crass, uncouth, unbusinesslike, boorish and crybaby attitude about this and his crude business dealings with jay.

Jay, as far as i'm concerned, has an unimpeachable history of doing the right thing and honoring all commitments. This whole fiasco is about principle, not money. I thank you jay for putting this on the table. Tvmike, on the other hand, in the small amount of time he has been around here, has burned just about every bridge he has crossed.

Tvmike, you need to read the dale carnegie book, "how to win friends and influence people", and when you firmly grasp the priciples put forth, sashay down to mcdonalds and apply for a job.

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all over a few dollars, i just dont get it. i hope the players get paid:cool:

Eric, fyi the players (Mika, Alex and Schmitty) were paid a total of $4,400 at this event, IMMEDIATELY after it concluded! In cash I might add. They didn't seem to mind either :wink:. Saying that, you have made a good point which I consider a valid one. I will pay the three players the same dividend they would receive if it were an Accu-Stats DVD, 5% of all sales will go to each player. It probably won't be much, but I will hand them a small dividend at the end of the year with an accounting of sales. That will be in cash as well.

By the way, I was paid the grand sum of $0 to run this event. This is one way that I give back to the industry that has been good to me. This also goes for the Fatboy Challenge held the last three years at DCC. $0 pay! I'm not complaining. I'm glad to be a part of DCC each year. And that's how I roll. :rolleyes:
 
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Eric, fyi the players (Mika, Alex and Schmitty) were paid a total of $4,400 at this event, IMMEDIATELY after it concluded! In cash I might add. They didn't seem to mind either :wink:. Saying that, you have made a good point which I consider a valid one. I will pay the three players the same dividend they would receive if it were an Accu-Stats DVD, 5% on all sales will go to each player. It probably won't be much, but I will hand them a small dividend at the end of the year with an accounting of sales. That will be in cash as well.

By the way, I was paid the grand sum of $0 to run this event. This is one way that I give back to the industry that has been good to me. This also goes for the Fatboy Challenge held the last three years at DCC. $0 pay! I'm not complaining. I'm glad to be a part of DCC each year. And that's how I roll. :rolleyes:

Part of the reason Jay deserves so much respect is that when he had a problem with someone, he posted a thread that is direct and to the point. He named the person he had a problem with, he said what the problem is, and he said how he felt about. That is how grown-ups confront problems, direct and to the point.

Unlike some other people, who start vague threads about "who works for who", then take little shots at the person in threads about being lied to, followed-up with ambiguous statements that may or may not be a compliment.

Certain people can learn from your style Jay, keep it up!
 
Excellent post. Oh the irony of FB2 berating this "waste of time" over $200 when he, himself spent more time posting in this thread than the OP!

Part of the reason Jay deserves so much respect is that when he had a problem with someone, he posted a thread that is direct and to the point. He named the person he had a problem with, he said what the problem is, and he said how he felt about. That is how grown-ups confront problems, direct and to the point.

Unlike some other people, who start vague threads about "who works for who", then take little shots at the person in threads about being lied to, followed-up with ambiguous statements that may or may not be a compliment.

Certain people can learn from your style Jay, keep it up!
 
What I don’t understand is your inability to comprehend the words I say. How in what shape or form have I made money from DCC? When YOU paid me for Digital WORK, and YOU paid me to make DVDS for YOU and my percentage. How does this have to do with making money off DCC? You got the DVDS you paid for and now your going to sell them. So how are you OUT of money, how did I scam you, how did I make anything off this when I went out of pocket I’ll say $800 or so 600 for expenses and prolly 200 for gas.

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I’ll repeat again very simply. THIS IS NOT A BUSINESS. It has never tried to be a business. Not in any grand scheme to exploit something solely for a profit. I am self employed I have a talent for technical aspects and concepts and have worked for myself for nearly 20 years with very minor side jobs.

At the age of I don’t remember maybe 20 or 21 I started my record company which would become a legendary influential indie record label and sold upwards of 60,000 records out of my bedroom. I discovered and signed 3 bands that would get later signed to major label imprints. One of them perhaps the eternal seed for modern hardcore alternative --- singing screaming first band to do it and I made the decision to sign them and put out their first record. That band would later go on to sell over 500k records. The label ran from 1991 till 2005.

Around 2000 after a side stint running a Tori Amos bootleg record label, authoring and making high quality home made CDS I also started selling a lot of collectible imports and records through ebay and other auction sites. Also at this time I decided to build a mini amazon dot com out of my bedroom so along with the import collectibles and cds I secured a credit and distribution deal with the same distributor as best buy and any other digital media buyer. I also secured the same relationship with amazon.com’s fulfillment company but decided not to sell books. I stayed with cds, music, records, imports and the entire movie media catalog. This site was called bigcd.com. The site grew exponentially in a few months from 5k a month in sales to over 40k out of my bedroom plus another 40k a month from half.com ebays direct sale website. It all came crashing down when my credit card processor decided to withhold 25,000k of my customers money. So everything died very violently at that time. Credit card processors can do anything they want to do and the more sales you do the more you will be ****ed. It’s called business.

In 2001 I joined a band that I financed, record labeled, and managed and was scheduled to be signed to an Atlantic records subsidiary and we were on the radio in Detroit and opening for major acts. That fell a part because of personal band issues.

Once bigcd.com died and the indie music record label model died the Myspace era came about.

I had been doing social network marketing on myspace for bands already so eventually I would turn this into my own agency for managing and doing targeted marketing for musicians. This flourished for several years until Facebook came into being now it’s a big struggle but I still continue on.

Oh also before this 2005 at the tail end of the label I become the first to sell a podcast on Itunes in the entire world. It was my idea to create digital audio books and package them and sell them like music CDS. The first podiobook in the world Earthcore received world wide tech press for getting into itunes and becoming for sale when it was originally for free as the worlds first podcast novel. This was my idea of course was so revolutionary that Apple computer lawyers called me and threatened me and yanked all my digital audio books out because of the monopoly that apple and audible.com has over all audiobook content in itunes. Try getting anymore than $2 as a producer or author from a $30 audiobook and you are ****ed. Audible.com outright rapes you maybe even literally and the authors get next to nothing when were talking they wanted to sell earthcore for $25 and we would get $2 so 1 for me and 1 for the author as I wrote a contract to pay the author half. I had about 10 audiobooks under production at the time and only a few came out some even made it to iTunes but because I didn’t promote it or hype it for fear of further legal retaliation. This is all documented online.

So since yet again I was ****ed by “business” I had to reinvent the label and I did so as I mentioned as a social network marketing agency and to this day I remain one of the only “legitimate” promoters in the indie music game. At one time I had about 15-20 clients since the great days things have been slower and harder since.

You know the story of what came next tvmike.tv as a hope to supplement and fuel my love of pool and as I discovered I had the best natural commentator in that of my girlfriend together we make a mean team. Duker you a blubbering fool actually pulling out a statement that I need to help me get someone who knows streaming? I learned in 2 months from a b/w camera with nothing I became the foremost channel so much in so a popular other channel asked me to “join” him. My ability to engineer and solve problems is very high and I will gladly publicly say I am one of the top in the country. Sure there have been problems but no one is perfect especially when it isn’t my fault to begin with. Many who think they know what they are doing do not and I can troubleshoot just about anything from just seeing whats happening on the screen. This has happened many times. On top of the fact a top ustream engineer complimented my broadcast so much in he said he didn’t know what I was doing but that was the best computer based multi camera presentation he’d seen. He wanted to know my specifics. All that without using any lights… I don’t want them breaking in my car. So duker you have no clue what you are talking about. I use $200 cameras and no lights and I have been complimented many times that I was a top dog no question. I had some help and inspiration absolutely but for the most part I figured everything out myself. Shout out to BigTruck for inspiration.

TvMike isn’t as dumb as you think, I have lived a life of legend.

So hate all you want I don’t care I know who I am, I know my strengths and weakness.

I could change how I communicate to be more “business” but that’s not me, I talk from the heart honest and open and for that I am the enemy I am persecuted. People can’t even read and comprehend what I say and twist and turn it to fit the world view or perception of reality they want to. I can’t stop you from doing that but it doesn’t make it the truth.

Vincent Van Gogh eat your heart out.

I am an artist of the mind.
 
How does this guy expect anyone to take his side with these ridiculous rants?

Mike nobody wants to hear your life story and all the failed side projects you have done, your begging for money, pathetic pathetic threats of suicide and potential exploitation of Dawn Fitals benefit have destroyed your reputation beyond any doubt and it will never be salvaged and this is without talking about the way you have done business with Jay Helfert.

I'll always have respect for someone who is attempting to stream pool and giving it more exposure but the way you have conducted yourself on this topic has ruined any respect i may have had for you.

Give up on this thread because you are coming across so badly
 
What I don’t understand is your inability to comprehend the words I say. How in what shape or form have I made money from DCC? When YOU paid me for Digital WORK, and YOU paid me to make DVDS for YOU and my percentage. How does this have to do with making money off DCC? You got the DVDS you paid for and now your going to sell them. So how are you OUT of money, how did I scam you, how did I make anything off this when I went out of pocket I’ll say $800 or so 600 for expenses and prolly 200 for gas.

He's out of money because you agreed to a split of profits of product sold. That means he puts up no money up front and gets a % off of revenue collected. He operates in the black from CD #1 with this model as opposed to you forcing him to pay for a wholesale he didn't agree to. He's essentially tying up his cash, putting him into the red out of the gate on product he may or may not sell.

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I’ll repeat again very simply. THIS IS NOT A BUSINESS. It has never tried to be a business. Not in any grand scheme to exploit something solely for a profit. I am self employed I have a talent for technical aspects and concepts and have worked for myself for nearly 20 years with very minor side jobs.

It's a business because you're charging for product. You're making a profit on a per DVD basis. You stated you needed to sell DVDs to pay for rent. If you weren't profiting (i.e. LOSING money per DVD), you wouldn't have pressured Jay to buy the DVDs because they would have sent you further away from making your rent payment.

At the age of I don’t remember maybe 20 or 21 I started my record company which would become a legendary influential indie record label and sold upwards of 60,000 records out of my bedroom. I discovered and signed 3 bands that would get later signed to major label imprints. One of them perhaps the eternal seed for modern hardcore alternative --- singing screaming first band to do it and I made the decision to sign them and put out their first record. That band would later go on to sell over 500k records. The label ran from 1991 till 2005.

Maybe this is true, maybe not. What is true is that you made a minor amount of cash, since you put the screws to Jay earlier in this deal - trying to pay emergency personal expenses. If this label was so legendary - how comes you ain't rich?

Around 2000 after a side stint running a Tori Amos bootleg record label, authoring and making high quality home made CDS I also started selling a lot of collectible imports and records through ebay and other auction sites. Also at this time I decided to build a mini amazon dot com out of my bedroom so along with the import collectibles and cds I secured a credit and distribution deal with the same distributor as best buy and any other digital media buyer. I also secured the same relationship with amazon.com’s fulfillment company but decided not to sell books. I stayed with cds, music, records, imports and the entire movie media catalog. This site was called bigcd.com. The site grew exponentially in a few months from 5k a month in sales to over 40k out of my bedroom plus another 40k a month from half.com ebays direct sale website. It all came crashing down when my credit card processor decided to withhold 25,000k of my customers money. So everything died very violently at that time. Credit card processors can do anything they want to do and the more sales you do the more you will be ****ed. It’s called business.

If you were clearing $40k/month out of your bedroom, how could a hold on $25k receivable bring your operation crashing down? Credit card processing companies don't hold cash unless there are contested transactions and funny stuff in general. The above statement is categorically false. My businesses have billed tons of cash on monthly basis (mostly through CC transactions) and I've never had them withhold a single dollar for no reason. I'm sure Fatboy has done a lot of CC# transactions - I'm curious to read his opinion as well.

In 2001 I joined a band that I financed, record labeled, and managed and was scheduled to be signed to an Atlantic records subsidiary and we were on the radio in Detroit and opening for major acts. That fell a part because of personal band issues.

This has nothing to do with anything.

Once bigcd.com died and the indie music record label model died the Myspace era came about.

I had been doing social network marketing on myspace for bands already so eventually I would turn this into my own agency for managing and doing targeted marketing for musicians. This flourished for several years until Facebook came into being now it’s a big struggle but I still continue on.

This has nothing to do with anything. i.e. "This means shit to a tree."

Oh also before this 2005 at the tail end of the label I become the first to sell a podcast on Itunes in the entire world. It was my idea to create digital audio books and package them and sell them like music CDS. The first podiobook in the world Earthcore received world wide tech press for getting into itunes and becoming for sale when it was originally for free as the worlds first podcast novel. This was my idea of course was so revolutionary that Apple computer lawyers called me and threatened me and yanked all my digital audio books out because of the monopoly that apple and audible.com has over all audiobook content in itunes. Try getting anymore than $2 as a producer or author from a $30 audiobook and you are ****ed. Audible.com outright rapes you maybe even literally and the authors get next to nothing when were talking they wanted to sell earthcore for $25 and we would get $2 so 1 for me and 1 for the author as I wrote a contract to pay the author half. I had about 10 audiobooks under production at the time and only a few came out some even made it to iTunes but because I didn’t promote it or hype it for fear of further legal retaliation. This is all documented online.

This has nothing to do with anything at all.

So since yet again I was ****ed by “business” I had to reinvent the label and I did so as I mentioned as a social network marketing agency and to this day I remain one of the only “legitimate” promoters in the indie music game. At one time I had about 15-20 clients since the great days things have been slower and harder since.

This has nothing to do with anything at all in this thread. None whatsoever.

You know the story of what came next tvmike.tv as a hope to supplement and fuel my love of pool and as I discovered I had the best natural commentator in that of my girlfriend together we make a mean team. Duker you a blubbering fool actually pulling out a statement that I need to help me get someone who knows streaming? I learned in 2 months from a b/w camera with nothing I became the foremost channel so much in so a popular other channel asked me to “join” him. My ability to engineer and solve problems is very high and I will gladly publicly say I am one of the top in the country. Sure there have been problems but no one is perfect especially when it isn’t my fault to begin with. Many who think they know what they are doing do not and I can troubleshoot just about anything from just seeing whats happening on the screen. This has happened many times. On top of the fact a top ustream engineer complimented my broadcast so much in he said he didn’t know what I was doing but that was the best computer based multi camera presentation he’d seen. He wanted to know my specifics. All that without using any lights… I don’t want them breaking in my car. So duker you have no clue what you are talking about. I use $200 cameras and no lights and I have been complimented many times that I was a top dog no question. I had some help and inspiration absolutely but for the most part I figured everything out myself. Shout out to BigTruck for inspiration.

This has NOTHING to do with this thread at all. Zero.

TvMike isn’t as dumb as you think, I have lived a life of legend.
Then how comes you ain't rich? Based on this thread -- you're not as smart as you think. You've made a lot of amateur errors.

So hate all you want I don’t care I know who I am, I know my strengths and weakness.
No one is "hating." We're all trying to figure out why you changed your original agreement with Jay and why you're trying to profit from a murder.

I could change how I communicate to be more “business” but that’s not me, I talk from the heart honest and open and for that I am the enemy I am persecuted. People can’t even read and comprehend what I say and twist and turn it to fit the world view or perception of reality they want to. I can’t stop you from doing that but it doesn’t make it the truth.

Vincent Van Gogh eat your heart out.

I am an artist of the mind.
You're not an artist, you're a streamer. I've been streaming events long before streaming was available to Joe Public. I streamed the IPT World Open back when BCN was the only other streamer out there. Before that, I streamed corporate events using Windows Media Server, before Flash was even viable. After almost 15 years of streaming media, I can honestly say this isn't an art at all. It's all experience-based stuff. It's mid-range networking knowledge with mid-range A/V knowledge. Encoding DVD is also mid-range knowledge, quickly learned by most mid-level tech people.

So, while I'm a fan of your awesome self assessment (which is required to be successful), it's a little bloated.

I'd just apologize to Jay for changing your verbal agreement (his story stinks of truth while yours... not so much).

I'd donate any proceeds from the Dawn tournament to her family.

I'd fall on the sword and apologize for being pompous and shady, promising to learn from this and move forward.

I'd try to re-invent yourself within this community.
 
I think I'm going to go throw up.


You know the story of what came next tvmike.tv as a hope to supplement and fuel my love of pool and as I discovered I had the best natural commentator in that of my girlfriend together we make a mean team. Duker you a blubbering fool actually pulling out a statement that I need to help me get someone who knows streaming? I learned in 2 months from a b/w camera with nothing I became the foremost channel so much in so a popular other channel asked me to “join” him. My ability to engineer and solve problems is very high and I will gladly publicly say I am one of the top in the country. Sure there have been problems but no one is perfect especially when it isn’t my fault to begin with. Many who think they know what they are doing do not and I can troubleshoot just about anything from just seeing whats happening on the screen. This has happened many times. On top of the fact a top ustream engineer complimented my broadcast so much in he said he didn’t know what I was doing but that was the best computer based multi camera presentation he’d seen. He wanted to know my specifics. All that without using any lights… I don’t want them breaking in my car. So duker you have no clue what you are talking about. I use $200 cameras and no lights and I have been complimented many times that I was a top dog no question. I had some help and inspiration absolutely but for the most part I figured everything out myself. Shout out to BigTruck for inspiration.

TvMike isn’t as dumb as you think, I have lived a life of legend.

So hate all you want I don’t care I know who I am, I know my strengths and weakness.

I could change how I communicate to be more “business” but that’s not me, I talk from the heart honest and open and for that I am the enemy I am persecuted. People can’t even read and comprehend what I say and twist and turn it to fit the world view or perception of reality they want to. I can’t stop you from doing that but it doesn’t make it the truth.

Vincent Van Gogh eat your heart out.

I am an artist of the mind.
 
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