U.S. Open Checks Bounced???

I skimmed this post quickly and ... wait... Jay Helfert is a hooker?

I might have to go back and read more carefully.
 
I might just do that, IF I can find the right location. The big IF!

If you plan on bringing tables in, why not use a school gym? You'd have bleachers, space and even a marquis to advertise. I don't think that the school would oppose the income. Not sure if any in the L.A. area are involved in pool, but that would be an added bonus. I also have no clue whatsoever as to how many tables you'd need either. :embarrassed2:
 
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plain and simple this is not fair to the players. If Shane or any of the others who had a check coming asked BB before the event "Can I pay my entry after the tournament I have had a shortfall" He would tell them "NO WAY!" But somehow its acceptable to short them their money after it cost them maybe $2,500 just to be there and compete.
If this was the first time at a new venue with a stellar track record I am sure nobody would be happy but would be more forgiving. This is a constant problem and its not as easy forgiven when its always the same.

I heard previous winners get in the Open for free, for life? Is this an old wives tails?

Then Shane would not have to pay an entry fee......
 
I heard previous winners get in the Open for free, for life? Is this an old wives tails?

Then Shane would not have to pay an entry fee......

That used to be true, but Barry revoked it beginning with this recent 2012 event. Now, only the prior year's champion receives free entry.
 
Yes, Jeremy Jones..

How cool is that to have Jeremy as a brother! Are you younger or older? I take it, since you're hanging out on AzBilliards, you're a pool enthusiast like us. Do you play pool? Will we be seeing another Jones champion in the future?

Do you look like Jeremy? :)
 

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Barry Behrman, 10/31/12:
"It is with regret that I have to announce that due to a lack of seating (that I admit I did not properly envision) that I am having to delay the prize payments to my top 6 finishers at the U.S. Open."​

It evidently went well beyond the top 6.

Shannon and Barry Behrman, 11/5/12:
"My dad and I are very sorry about the developments at our U.S. Open 9-Ball Championships this year that left some players temporarily unpaid. We now commit to pay every player their full due by no later than Tuesday, November 13, eight days from now."​

Has everyone received payment now?
 
Barry Behrman, 10/31/12:
"It is with regret that I have to announce that due to a lack of seating (that I admit I did not properly envision) that I am having to delay the prize payments to my top 6 finishers at the U.S. Open."​

It evidently went well beyond the top 6.

Shannon and Barry Behrman, 11/5/12:
"My dad and I are very sorry about the developments at our U.S. Open 9-Ball Championships this year that left some players temporarily unpaid. We now commit to pay every player their full due by no later than Tuesday, November 13, eight days from now."​

Has everyone received payment now?


I've just seen from one of the UK player's facebook accounts that it seems his cheque has also bounced, don't have any further info than that unfortunately.
 
my cheque other day from US OPEN and it's been returned under fraud purposes.

I've just seen from one of the UK player's facebook accounts that it seems his cheque has also bounced, don't have any further info than that unfortunately.

Yes, this is from earlier this morning:

Chris Melling

Well tried to bank my cheque other day from US OPEN and it's been returned under fraud purposes. Signed in ft tip pen,no address on cheque, and the paper is void lol, once again The pool world strikes, hopefully they will send it to my account otherwise,letter from the lawyer will be sent
 
Yes, this is from earlier this morning:

Chris Melling

Well tried to bank my cheque other day from US OPEN and it's been returned under fraud purposes. Signed in ft tip pen,no address on cheque, and the paper is void lol, once again The pool world strikes, hopefully they will send it to my account otherwise,letter from the lawyer will be sent

WOW!! <shakes head>..

I'd say that tournament is forever doomed. Self-destruction is imminent.
 
Yes, this is from earlier this morning:

Chris Melling

Well tried to bank my cheque other day from US OPEN and it's been returned under fraud purposes. Signed in ft tip pen,no address on cheque, and the paper is void lol, once again The pool world strikes, hopefully they will send it to my account otherwise,letter from the lawyer will be sent

These reasons don't make any sense to me. More likely insufficient funds. I don't have contact with Chris, but can you let him know I suggest he call Barry's bank to confirm the reason why the check was returned and to find out if the check can be redeposited if funds become available?
 
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These reasons don't make any sense to me. More likely insufficient funds. I don't have contact with Chris, but can you let him know I suggest he call Barry's bank to confirm the reason why the check was returned and to find out if the check can be redeposited if funds become available?

Yeah, I couldn't quite grasp what Chris was stating either (them English blokes write in a foreign language to me, lol). And there's a big difference between a fraudulent check and an NSF.

I do know that there was a gentleman at The Open handwriting checks to players (hence the felt tip pen Chris referenced).

The sad saga continues...
 
Thank you boys. A felt tip pen ? HUH ?

I do know my bank hates International checks, I'm all "hey its 2012 its a world economy" but they are not impressed. Perhaps Chris's bank feels the same way about US funds.

Meantime, I think the checks are bouncing pretty good.
 
These reasons don't make any sense to me. More likely insufficient funds. I don't have contact with Chris, but can you let him know I suggest he call Barry's bank to confirm the reason why the check was returned and to find out if the check can be redeposited if funds become available?

The reasons make sense, but like you, I wonder if this is really the case.

Sounds like Chris Melling's' bank is saying that the paper on which the check is written is not within legally permissible standards for checks and that, because of this, the check is not deemed drawn on any existing bank account (if this is the case, there's little point in calling Barry's bank). This would constitute an allegation of bank fraud against the issuer of the check, not an insufficient funds situation. This is a serious criminal allegation, and is, as you suggest, hard to fathom, but to dismiss it as impossible is unwise.

We'll leave examination of the evidence to those who are qualified, and await further information. Of course, whatever the explanation, something smells here. Hope it's just an insufficient funds situation, but there could be more to this.

Hope this works out for Chris Melling and the others who've yet to get paid.
 
The Commonwealth of Virginia law states the following:

Larceny/Class 6 Felony

A person who writes a bad check in the Commonwealth of Virginia will be guilty of larceny, and in the case where the amount of the check is more than $200, the person responsible could be found guilty of a Class 6 felony.

A Class 6 felony in Virginia, is punishable by a prison term of no more than five years, but no less than one year, or a prison term of no more than one year with an accompanying fine of no more than $2,500.

Guilty

The person who wrote the bad check isn't the only person who can be found guilty of larceny when a check bounces in Virginia. The person making, drawing, or delivering the check, draft or order can also be found guilty by association with the crime.

Holder

The person who receives a bad check is entitled to recover the amount of the check plus legal interest, check charges, and a $25.00 processing fee.

Written Notice

When the holder of a bad check provides written notice to the issuer of the check and the issuer does not pay the amount within 30 days, the holder is entitled to up to three times the amount of the check plus check charges and the $25.00 processing fee.
 
The reasons make sense, but like you, I wonder if this is really the case.

Sounds like Chris Melling's' bank is saying that the paper on which the check is written is not within legally permissible standards for checks and that, because of this, the check is not deemed drawn on any existing bank account (if this is the case, there's little point in calling Barry's bank). This would constitute an allegation of bank fraud against the issuer of the check, not an insufficient funds situation. This is a serious criminal allegation, and is, as you suggest, hard to fathom, but to dismiss it as impossible is unwise.

We'll leave examination of the evidence to those who are qualified, and await further information. Of course, whatever the explanation, something smells here. Hope it's just an insufficient funds situation, but there could be more to this.

Hope this works out for Chris Melling and the others who've yet to get paid.

I pointed out that there may be a mistake in the reasons the bank gave because I wanted to avoid panic and rumor. It's possible his bank in the UK did not send the check through at all.

One time I wrote a pretty large check. The payee was a corporation and they failed to endorse it before depositing. When the check was returned by their bank (it never made it to minde) the clerk checked off the wrong box on the stamp, so instead of it being their own mistake, which it was, it appeared to be mine and memo's went out that I was bouncing checks.

I agree, they actually seem to be saying the check is counterfeit (the paper) - which doesn't make sense at all.
 
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