USBTC Professional or not?

This is very familiar. You are kind of like Stevie Moore right now. That point in his rant where he first said something like "this is bullshit". He wasn't over the line yet, but he didn't stop himself. That's where you are now. You are looking like you are about to go full on crazy on everyone. Slow down before you say something really stupid and get yourself banned (if the cum on my gf's chin comment didn't already earn you the banning).

The reason I always posted at you is because you were the only one disagreeing. I thought it was a conversation, you thought it was a fight. Think about things before you drive yourself nuts...it's not too late.

im in control and not going to lose it. If i get banned im ok with that. i tried my best not too turn this into a personal thing.
 
right Jay!! your a legend in your own 200 iq mind :thumbup: There is only one person who babbles and fill books with it and thats you! keep your personal shit to yourself! if you cant stand the heat stay out of the kitchen! you guys kill me that you think your so smart!

You just showed your true colors. :thumbup:
I'm glad to see you have a sense of humor. Everyone but you knows my post #206 to you was made in jest. Guess what, I don't have a 200 IQ, I didn't win the Mother Theresa award and I never ran 527 balls, even in my dreams. Get it now? It was a JOKE! And you went totally off about it. Maybe you just had a momentary lapse in judgment since you are only human. Where did I hear that before?
 
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I'm glad to see you have a sense of humor. :thumbup:
You just showed your true colors.

This is where easye comes in :)

sure Jay :thumbup: you just happened to show yours in this thread Jay! Your words, are not the last word! Sorry to give your ego a shot!

Listen are you finished to change your post yet. i have said what i said and im done with it now. maybe you will get lucky and i will be banned from here in the morning :)
 
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This is where easye comes in :)

sure Jay :thumbup: you just happened to show yours in this thread Jay! Your words, are not the last word! Sorry to give your ego a shot! follow the money jay and don't bite the hand that feeds you, keep kissing there asses and trash pool players, well done!

Wow.... you have got to let it go, man... Are you try to be better at this the TheThaiger? Stop machine gunning every thread you're in, say your piece, and move on.

I don't always disagree with everything you say, nor do I always agree with everything the others guys say. But this ranting is foolish. If you're doing it to be funny, it ain't working. If you're doing it to be a pain, well, that is working. And that doesn't give you any credibility here, when many times you make good points in various threads. (Not making a judgment on this thread, either way.)
 
Don't fall in the trap champ.You have made some good points.Don't get banned.Stay on topic.
 
I'm surprised that Chump hasn't posted the mean scowl pic of himself and
and said, Come at me bro, this is what you have to deal with when you get to Tee Ohh.

I'll be in Tee Ohh in November. Come at me bro!
 
I'm sorry this happened to the champ, but he really went off the deep end in this thread. He showed similar character flaws to the same person he was defending. It all started when I defended Ric, Mark, Kenny and Justin, all people who I have a lot of respect for. And with good reason. I hope the champ can gather himself and come back in a better frame of mind.

I think there is value, even in "negative" threads where opposing points of view are offered. This thread is a perfect example of that. For myself I try not to get so stuck in my position that I can't hear what other people are saying. I've had my point of view changed more than once on here by a well stated argument. And I've made my share of apologies too. There is value in having a good dialogue, and that's something I appreciate about the AZ Forums. There is little value in personally attacking people.

I think the OP had good reason to create this thread, as the incident in question was being talked about on here and by word of mouth, with several different versions going around. He wanted to clear the air on what was a very uncomfortable experience for all concerned. I think that he and the others are all owed apologies by the player in question. That's my opinion. :wink:

P.S. If the newly created player's organization is to have value and merit in this industry, they should be the ones policing their own players. Fines should be administered for violations of their ethics code. I wonder if they even have an ethics code. They are, after all, supposed to be PROFESSIONAL pool players.
 
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Wow, there's 39 minutes I'll never get back...

There was a poster somewhere back around page 5 who used the correct contraction "should've" instead of the often incorrectly-used 'should of'. This also applies to would and could. I will track you down sir and green rep you.

What else I took from this thread was what quite possibly is the best descriptor ever used, all time, on az.

Justin describing how Stevie was acting violated like a girl who just got felt up at the drive in was, well, B-R-I-L-L-I-A-N-T! God bless you for that one, sir.

Looks like Champ got the guillotine - sitting here wondering how the big hair might have looked as the head rolled down the hill. His banning was well deserved for his outrageous comment.

Easy-e, brother, you have some very admirable patience. I'm betting it serves you well on the table. :)

To the subject at hand.

For those who said there are two sides to every story, I think the 'other' side needs little defining past where Stevie called Shane 'fvcking dumb' for not joining him in his attempted boycott of the hotseat match.

As some have already pointed out, the real value to a player who is invited to play on a stream table is that their sponsors are getting exposure. And the positive effect from said exposure is, of course, that the sponsors will be more inclined to continue supporting the player. Added to that is the fact the stream players get to showcase their talent to a large audience which, in turn, just might attract even more sponsors and/or, at the very least, some new fans. ;)

I read how some thought Ric Jones should have reached out to Stevie privately rather than posting his thoughts on here. Have any of you considered that maybe Stevie could have, and probably should have been the one doing the reaching out to, let's see, Ric, Shane, Ken, Justin, and yes, maybe even us viewers, with an apology for his egregious behavior?

Count me in, though, as one more vote for coming up with an alternative to putting tokens in the tables, at least on the stream table. Whether by sponsorship, increasing the entry fee, or clipping a little off the very generous added money, IMO, it's the way to go.

Stevie may have had a good point but went about trying to make it in a regrettable way.

Best,
Brian kc
 
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Subscribing to professionalism thread

Subscribing to this thread..........................
 
First let me say Stevie certainly over reacted to the situation. No doubt about it!!

What I don't understand if I have the facts right is why Mark, Justin, Ric, and now Jay (since he put his 2 cents in calling people assholes and fools) have not addressed what caused this situation to arise in the first place. Let's review. Stevie had no concerns about paying to play on the non streaming tables so they are not an issue at all. So what happened on the streaming table. Stevie played in the tourney last year and the management of the tourney decided to make the streaming table open. Stevie had no say in that at all. It was a management decision. Why would Stevie ever think that he was somebody special since that was just the rule. Stevie comes to the tourney this year and is asked to play on the streaming table and it is open just like last year. The next time Stevie is asked to play on the streaming table it is for the hot seat. Stevie is pumped to the max. He lost to Shane in the finals of the 9 ball Championship in Derby City. He wants to even the score like any of us would. The one thing he is sure of is that the streaming table is open. No one has told him that management changed the rules after he played on the streaming table the first time. He goes out to get ready to do battle with Shane with nothing but beating Shane on his mind. And BAM!!!! He is told he needs to have tokens to practice since the table is NOT OPEN!! Might this not cause any of us to go on tilt?? This whole situation was caused by poor management changing the rules after the tourney had started and lack of communication with the players of that change.

Then management starts a thread saying how poorly Stevie acted without even a comment about their responsibility for screwing up by changing the streaming table rules after Stevie had played on it. What BS!!

I end my comments with saying again Stevie certainly over reacted to the situation but he was not the cause of the situation.

He is a professional, he suddenly having to put coins in a slot to play pool shouldn't bother him.
 
Wow, there's 39 minutes I'll never get back...

There was a poster somewhere back around page 5 who used the correct contraction "should've" instead of the often incorrectly-used 'should of'. This also applies to would and could. I will track you down sir and green rep you.

What else I took from this thread was what quite possibly is the best descriptor ever used, all time, on az.

Justin describing how Stevie was acting violated like a girl who just got felt up at the drive in was, well, B-R-I-L-L-I-A-N-T! God bless you for that one, sir.

Looks like Champ got the guillotine - sitting here wondering how the big hair might have looked as the head rolled down the hill. His banning was well deserved for his outrageous comment.

Easy-e, brother, you have some very admirable patience. I'm betting it serves you well on the table. :)

To the subject at hand.

For those who said there are two sides to every story, I think the 'other' side needs little defining past where Stevie called Shane 'fvcking dumb' for not joining him in his attempted boycott of the hotseat match.

As some have already pointed out, the real value to a player who is invited to play on a stream table is that their sponsors are getting exposure. And the positive effect from said exposure is, of course, that the sponsors will be more inclined to continue supporting the player. Added to that is the fact the stream players get to showcase their talent to a large audience which, in turn, just might attract even more sponsors and/or, at the very least, some new fans. ;)

I read how some thought Ric Jones should have reached out to Stevie privately rather than posting his thoughts on here. Have any of you considered that maybe Stevie could have, and probably should have been the one doing the reaching out to, let's see, Ric, Shane, Ken, Justin, and yes, maybe even us viewers, with an apology for his egregious behavior?

Count me in, though, as one more vote for coming up with an alternative to putting tokens in the tables, at least on the stream table. Whether by sponsorship, increasing the entry fee, or clipping a little off the very generous added money, IMO, it's the way to go.

Stevie may have had a good point but went about trying to make it in a regrettable way.

Best,
Brian kc

Argh! I changed someone's mind about this early in the thread. Why are you attacking me now by exclusion ?




P.S. just kidding.
 
I apologize; this will be long, and multiple quotes will be used so I can reply once and not several times. I’ve no desire for a massive post count and it’s just easier to reply this way. I’ve tried to group them in some semblance of order.

Let us begin with:

There is no way Justin would start a thread like this!

You sure about that? I seem to recall Justin starting a thread to apologize for someone else’s actions who, much in the same way, acted like a spoiled brat. I thought better of him for starting that thread.

Maybe Stevie is right that certain people are trying to keep the pro players down or in line?

In line? Sure, why not? If you want to be called “professional” act like it. If you tried that in my office you’d be gone in a heartbeat.

im sure he realized after, his timing was off, but hey it happens to all of us one time or another, we get pissed and don't care who is around...shit happens

Umm, no. Just no. Really, no. You see, without going into the birds and bees, as you get a little older this funny thing called, “growing up”, happens. For some anyway.

And people wonder why the pros don't post on here much. :rolleyes:

Because some of the “pros” expect everything they do to be ok, and everything the rest of world does to be scrutinized and condemned. When we won’t bow down they take affront to it.

...I wasn't even pissed at him yet for acting like a girl who got felt up at the drive in over the situation. (Points for knowing the reference)

Isn’t that just the problem though? “You walk into a shoe store with 150 and you walk out with one shoe! We were working on 5000.”

Because I tend to be a little vague sometimes because I expect people to follow my train of thought (bad habit) I’ll just spell it out: Short-sighted people see 5 whole dollars spent and not, “hey I’m acting like an a$$hat and embarrassing my sponsors who will dump me and then I’ll be out way more than 5 dollars; maybe I should shut up and behave like an adult!”

The people on this board have put more money in pro players pockets than any other group of people on the planet. You want to know when pro players are really truly screwed? Its when people here stop caring altogether about anything pro related.

If it wasn’t for guys like you, Mark, Jerry, and Jason I probably wouldn’t go to that many events. I’m getting a little tired of the temper tantrums thrown by the supposed representatives of a sport of gentlemen.

I am sick of players acting out in front of the world and then it's pushed under the carpet.

Ding! Ding! Correct answer.

The pool industry is supported by the dead money on this very forum looking for the next cue, magic tip, chalk, pool shoes etc..NOT THE PROS!

Ding! Ding! Another correct answer! Can I have, “How to act like an adult for $300 Alex?”

I have a 200 IQ, won the Mother Theresa Award last year and ran 527 balls yesterday! :wink:

Jay, have you been hanging out with FL? ;)

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Now, as far as the “plugging” discussion; this isn’t 9’ pool. This is bar-table pool. It does look odd to see players have to plug the table if you see this as something it’s not. However, this is a bar-table, and thus bar-pool, event. Every real hall I’ve gone to that wasn’t having a special that night required you to plug the little tables. It’s not a big deal and it is a source of revenue that helps cover the cost of the tournament.

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