What is the Beef With Dragon Promotions and The Predator 10 Ball Championships?
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I think they're taking $100 out of every $700 entry fee for a registration fee. That extra $11,200 would make the added money look like $20,000 now. I'm not saying that's right, just what I think happened. It is a steep entry for a 20K added event.
I have been informed that Dragon took $60 out of the $675 entry fee for reg. fees, leaving $615 to go into the purse. Just wanted to make that correction.
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If I was running an event and you said you were gonna run $500 on the bar, I'd probably not want you in there either. Put some cash in your wallet and find an ATM for pete's sake. 61 pounds of drugs and a drunk or sober attempt to enter a female's room are nowhere near the same IMHO. If he'd have raped her,then yeah, worse, but otherwise, just general stupidity. Also, Marissa, ever hear of hotel security? They'd have had him arrested for sure.
Sweet Marissa
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The first time it happened, I screamed and kicked him out of my room and called a friend on the same floor. I went to CW the next day and told him I was NOT interested. I was just there to work and watch pool.
When he tried to enter my room the next night (I used the swinging bolt on the door this time), I reported it to the hotel front desk who re-keyed my room, and to Frank Alvarez. Frank had me send CW a text saying if it happened again, I would go to Cindy Lee and the authorities. CW had me meet him outside to pay me the rest of my earnings. I thought that Frank and the UPA were looking out for me. In hindsight, I believe I was mistaken.
At first, I thought it was my fault and that I had said something to make him do what he did. It took awhile to be able to tell myself that it wasn't anything I said or did, and after hearing other similar accounts, I know I was just one victim.
I just wish the other ladies he has assaulted could come forward without fear of retribution. I will not out anyone, though.
Any questions or comments can be sent to my email: sweetmarissa@gmail.com
Thanks.
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wish everone would just drop it.
sorry, when a guy like him has women like yuram, shanle,Jeanette Lee etc around him constantly and they love him to death, i just cant believe the rumors.
and guys like rodney morris,hohmann,immonen,robles wouldnt be near him if they believed in that.
maybe theres more to the story, maybe not. at any rate not getitng anyone anywhere cause it will always be he said she said, meanwhile CW only fact i kno he produces alot of damn good events and helps a ton of players
sorry, when a guy like him has women like yuram, shanle,Jeanette Lee etc around him constantly and they love him to death, i just cant believe the rumors.
and guys like rodney morris,hohmann,immonen,robles wouldnt be near him if they believed in that.
maybe theres more to the story, maybe not. at any rate not getitng anyone anywhere cause it will always be he said she said, meanwhile CW only fact i kno he produces alot of damn good events and helps a ton of players
Then they could claim that the entry-fee was only $ 100 and that $ 600 went to registration fee.
That way they could say that it is a $ 60,000 added event...
Imo, the added money is what is added on top of the entryfees, and that's less than $ 9,000
I think when a lot of folks first heard about this, they may have thought it was just a failed stupid drunken incident. That's the way I first saw this, but I'm beginning to change my perspective.
I hope you're okay. If something like this happened to one of my sisters, I couldn't comment on what might happen.
As long as everyone is trying to be as truthful as possible here, I don't see any harm in bringing it out in the open.
One thing I did see was EVERY player getting paid at the end of the event. This is becoming a rarity at pro tournaments today.
Marissa, unfortunately, since this is a male-dominated forum, your words may not be understood by an assorted few. It is a shame, as Black-Balled mentioned, that you have to read some of the insensitivity expressed.
That said, I have a newfound respect for Lorena Bobbitt.
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I really wish someone can clarify this.
If there is any truth in it, No matter how good a job that man is doing, I rather Pool perish and die off as a sport then to benefit from a man like that.
If they are just baseless allegations then why not just clarify this then to let it go on and on. I find this very disturbing on the part of DP as surely they come in here to post they would have read about this.
Don't just sweep everything under the carpet like everything else.
lmao, yeah, I'm sure room owners hate it when I come to an event and buy rounds for everyone in the house. I didn't realize I had left my cash at home until I was already inside and since I had spent the better part of 5 years in that room and knew the owners really well, I didn't see a problem with me charging an additional $15 to my tab. I guess Charlie didn't think he'd get the money if it weren't in cash. Either way, he was put in his place by Papa Murph.
That is incredibly creepy. People who do things like that run out of luck very very fast.
Marissa
You and I are friends, but we will have to agree to disagree on that statement. Frank was as helpful as he could be under those circumstances. Insinuating otherwise isn't fair. Insinuating that the UPA "weren't looking out for you" is unfair as well. Many people were unaware that this had happened, with the exception of a few people that you had spoken too. The UPA is not the poice department. You know that.
I know you are upset with Charlie, but please don't insinuate that Frank was not doing his best to help you out at the time, because he was. That is just how Frank is. If you had gone to Tony Robles, Cindy Lee, or James West, they would have also done their very best to make sure that the situation was handled properly, and that you were taken care of. You know that too.
Like I said in my earlier post, it is unfair to paint the UPA and the entire DP staff with one brush because of your incident with Charlie. If you would say that about Frank Alvarez, what would stop you from saying that about me or Thorsten? That's where I am coming from, I hope you understand that. Please understand that Thorsten, Frank, and myself have walked a fine line with this issue. All of us have still remained friends with you and have been supportive despite this incident - and none of us have chosen sides.
I don't know what happened between you and Charlie in your hotel room in May of 2005. Only you and Charlie know what happened. As a friend, I will always be there to help you - especially if you're in the right. But... I will also be there to let you know when you're wrong. That's friendship too. Saying nobody was looking out for you is way off base.
There comes a point where you need to deal with this situation and move forward with your life. Either pursue this through the proper channels in an attempt to bring an end result - or deal with it emotionally to put it to rest. Doing otherwise turns this incident into a billy club that you can take out and beat Charlie over the head with when ever you feel like it. That makes you come off as more vindictive than victimized. I know you better than that, but some people here don't know you better than that.
Bottom line, people were there for you when this happened - especially Frank Alvarez. By reporting this to the UPA instead of the police, a few of us got trapped in the middle trying to make sense of a situation that occurred between two people that we care about. What did you expect for people to do? Should we have just hung him by his balls over Table 17 and got it over with that day - or was the responsibility on you to take the proper action? Don't fault Frank (or anybody else) for that decision.
I am sure she has dealt with it. The only reason she said anything now was as a courtesey to the Board.
I think the majority of girls have dealt with similar situations multiple times by the time the reach early adulthood. They know what we are.
Sweet Marissa
www.Bella-Muse.com
I'm not mad at Frank and I like him like a brother. However, in Vegas last year when I was raffling for Predator, Charlie had me escorted from the tournament room. He approached me later and said I would be allowed to watch the matches if I stopped bad-mouthing him and Dragon Promotions. I told him that what he did to me was wrong, and he just scoffed and walked away. I told Frank about this and requested to sit down with him, Karim, and Charlie to talk about it, and my requests were repeatedly brushed off. I just feel like they're looking out for Charlie and don't want to hear about what happened.
Charlie might be doing a lot for pool, maybe more than any promoter, and that is great. But, for anyone to downplay what he did is ridiculous. If he has to resort to breaking into people's rooms to get any action then he needs to work on his game.
It's kind of like how a lot of people like Michael Jackson's music, but because he f*@#s little boys they generally don't care for him.
It's kind of like how a lot of people like Michael Jackson's music, but because he f*@#s little boys they generally don't care for him.
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If they spoke out about it now, then they would go through what is happening now. "Your word against his" which doesn't save anyone from retribution as you learned in Vegas last year.
Something that hasn't been explained (that I've seen) and would very much like to know is, why didn't you call the police the first night?
Had you called the police and reported it, the other victims might've felt safer about coming forward with their own stories. Retribution is harder to enforce when things become legal matters.