What's a hustler's favorite pool cue?

What pool cue do hustlers use?


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Flex said:
How about something with "Budweiser" or "Harley Davidson" splashed on it?

I've often considered taking a Budweiser/Coors/Miller cue and having a nice custom shaft made for it just for bar gambling. Get the shaft all dirty and blued up and some chalk rings on the ferrule...that would rock.
I'm sure some of you have already tried this. Anyone have any luck?
-Rob
 
Pushout said:
LOL! They have a joint, ya know.

Not mine, I carry a one-piece.

What I meant was, since you are carrying it in a case and screwing it together, it's going to be hard to be sneaky unless no one notices.
 
Wouldn't it depend on who you wanted to hustle? Some guys seem to play each other as much as the fish.
 
one piece of very good wood. they won't pull out their priced cues and avoid losing it to someone else of a higher caliber.
shortstops carry a two-piece most often times. since they can afford to replace it.
 
PKM said:
Not mine, I carry a one-piece.

What I meant was, since you are carrying it in a case and screwing it together, it's going to be hard to be sneaky unless no one notices.


I carry my SP into bars in one of those cheap cloth
cases. They see that it's a 2 piece cue but the fact
that it's not fancy seems to appease them.
 
I'd say if you just want to go into bars and pool halls and feed on fish cheap the best thing is a cue from the wall. Kinda look for a decent one with an ok tip. Might be fun to use one of the flea market 5 piece cues with the screw on tip too if you'd rather use a gaff cue:D
 
sneaky sneakies

I think Pete Sherbine at Proficient Billiards keeps a few souped up beer/liquor/NFL cues on hand. They ea have a respectable joint, new shaft with above avg maple, melamine ferrule and you choice of tip. Wouldn't be a problem for any cue maker to build with some time. I hear Pete makes a nice "fancy sneaky" too along with his top-notch refinish/repair business.

http://www.proficientbilliards.com/index.html
 
"Pinoy Eliminator"

Most of the hustlers I have seen will use one of the crappy old bar cues long enough to see what everybody's "speed" is and figure out what kind of game he wants to make. Unless the guy is REAL WELL known in the joint, you NEVER see a fancy custom come out of a decent to fancy case.

More than likely, he will go out to his car and bring in some beat-up looking old cue or a simple Sneaky Pete, either of which is calculated, by its appearance, not to scare off his mark. The ones I definitely look out for are the guys who bring in a simple old BEM Joss or Meucci with no points, no ringwork, a simple linen-wrapped handle and the cue is totally discolored and full of dents, the butt bumper is missing and there are chunks of plastic missing from the butt sleeve from banging the cue on the floor.

On the other hand, when I'm on the road for any kind of trip, I will scope out the POOL HALLs (not the bars) to see what kind of "talent" they have. I will find a few guys who "think" they know what they're doing and eventually will match up with a couple of them. However, I do not make the match while I'm still there.

What I do is to wait a few hours or maybe a day, then come back carrying my "hustler," rent a table by myself and, soon enough, one of the smartasses will come over looking for the "easy hit." Their supposed "knowledge" kills them every time. When you see th picture below, you will understand.

My "hustler" is one of those old mid-1960's $6.95 K-Mart cues. It's the kind with the handle that is HAND-CARVED by Phillipinos. The butt is made out of the cheap, light-weight Phillipino walnut and originally came with a cheap Phillipino ramin shaft with a screw-on tip.

Of course, I've changed it a little bit. A 1-1/2 oz. weight bolt was added to bring it up to decent weight. The ramin shaft has been replaced with a very fine, highly-figured ash shaft made to my own specs -- the original joint pin and collars were saved and reused on the shaft replacement to make it look as original as possible. The tip is a Moori Medium.

I picked the ash over the hard rock maple because it can easily be mistaken for some other kind of CHEAP shaft and adds to the overall "funky" appearance of the cue. When I drop my beat-up old $9 cloth cue-case on the table, then haul out this cheap-looking cue in a decent class pool hall, they all trip all over each other to see who will get to my table first.

This little sweetheart, which I call my "Pinoy Eliminator," plays really nicely the way I have it set up. It has made me a bunch of money and lost me very little -- not because I am a very good pool player, but because I have been smart/lucky enough to attract the "right" customers ... :D

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Back in the late '70s, early '80s, the action was prevalent, much more so than today. Quite a few sharpshooters flew under the radar, by their own choice, and traveled across the country, back and forth again and again, in pursuit of games of stake.

I remember one road player I knew well who used to go on the road several times a year. He would NEVER enter a pool room or bar with his own personal cue. This would be considered a "knock." He always played with whatever house cue there was on the wall. A good road player not only played well with inferior equipment, but he usually would have a proficiency for all games of pocket billiards, to include snooker.

I got a chuckle when he told me that he had to buy himself some cowboy boots to hustle pool in Texas at that time. He said if he walked into any joint in Texas with sneakers or running shoes, that that most definitely would be a knock. :D

The house cue, though it may not have been a favorite of the pool hustler's, it usually was the norm in the good old days of American pool. It's kind of funny when you think about how many of today's players whine and complain about their tips not being shaped right or their shafts are dirty or they need to get a new Irish linen wrap because the old one is gritty and soiled.

The great American road warriors of yesteryear were a rare breed of pool players, and to be able to play pool as well as they did with inferior equipment speaks volume about the true caliber of their play.

JAM
 
JAM said:
Back in the late '70s, early '80s, the action was prevalent, much more so than today. Quite a few sharpshooters flew under the radar, by their own choice, and traveled across the country, back and forth again and again, in pursuit of games of stake.

I remember one road player I knew well who used to go on the road several times a year. He would NEVER enter a pool room or bar with his own personal cue. This would be considered a "knock." He always played with whatever house cue there was on the wall. A good road player not only played well with inferior equipment, but he usually would have a proficiency for all games of pocket billiards, to include snooker.

I got a chuckle when he told me that he had to buy himself some cowboy boots to hustle pool in Texas at that time. He said if he walked into any joint in Texas with sneakers or running shoes, that that most definitely would be a knock. :D

The house cue, though it may not have been a favorite of the pool hustler's, it usually was the norm in the good old days of American pool. It's kind of funny when you think about how many of today's players whine and complain about their tips not being shaped right or their shafts are dirty or they need to get a new Irish linen wrap because the old one is gritty and soiled.

The great American road warriors of yesteryear were a rare breed of pool players, and to be able to play pool as well as they did with inferior equipment speaks volume about the true caliber of their play.

JAM

JAM, ever tried using a cue without a tip and a ferrule? or a badly warped cue? these are the sort of things that all players of today should be complaining about. gladly, I'll be contented enough to play a cue as long as there is a tip on it or atleast straight enough for you to pocket some balls.
truthfully, I shoot better with a house cue rather than my personal cue and I don't have any idea why. :D
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
JAM, ever tried using a cue without a tip and a ferrule? or a badly warped cue? these are the sort of things that all players of today should be complaining about. gladly, I'll be contented enough to play a cue as long as there is a tip on it or atleast straight enough for you to pocket some balls.
truthfully, I shoot better with a house cue rather than my personal cue and I don't have any idea why. :D

LOL! :D When I was playing pool every single day and night, it was at a neighborhood gathering spot in Maryland. We had quite a few regulars there who'd show up on a daily basis to shoot pool on the one and only bar box in the joint. :p

Back then, they didn't have any wooden house cues. They were all metal cues, and for whatever reason, I shot my best pool with that metal cue.

Chester Morris, a trick shot artist and cuestick peddler, came to the tavern one day and was selling cue sticks out of his trunk. I purchased a sneaky pete from him with an ivory ferrule, and having a cue of this caliber was pretty cool. However, it was that metal cue that I seemed to always go for when I was trying to hold the table for a spell. Beating them guys out of a brewskie or a dollar was the best pool high.

As the years went by, I was, in fact, considered one of the best players in the joint, and I thought so, too; that is, until I was introduced to the pool room, the 9-foot tables, and the road players.

I really enjoyed pool when I was playing on the Busch League. I was a 6 out of 7, and on a bar box with a big cueball playing 8-ball, that metal cuestick was my favorite weapon of mass destruction! :D

JAM
 
Budweiser cue now, house cue when I was serious

I have a Budweiser cue with a swapped joint collar and good shaft now, complete with the original vinyl case with big chunk of plastic missing. I'll get around to duct taping the hole eventually. However, when I gambled constantly it was off the wall. When I bought my first decent custom it took me months to play as well with it as I played off the wall and I still grab a house stick now and then when the custom isn't rolling balls in to suit me. Can't be the operator, must be the stick! :D :D :D

A house cue, maybe a little piece of sandpaper or 3m pad and the old almost flat BRAD tip scuffer loose in my pocket and I was good to go.

Hu
 
I feel like a sneaky pete is the dead giveaway. A plain, no point, linen wrap, is the way to go. I have one with a flourescent Mcdermott case. The cue was made by Pete Ohman, with the shafts interchangeable with my six point ebony, with extravagant ivory and stainless inlay. This way, I don't have to worry about the shaft taper and tip. It's always the same. The two butts are almost identical in weight. It's a good setup. I just think a sneaky pete is too obvious, but a plain jane looks like a beginner that wanted a nice cue, but didn't not serious enough to spend $2500. A beginner has no reason to be "sneaky." That flourescent case is a riot. Kind of like a HiLiter. Instead of asking around, you'll have people ask you for action.
 
mailman said:
Most of the hustlers I have seen will use one of the crappy old bar cues long enough to see what everybody's "speed" is and figure out what kind of game he wants to make. Unless the guy is REAL WELL known in the joint, you NEVER see a fancy custom come out of a decent to fancy case.

More than likely, he will go out to his car and bring in some beat-up looking old cue or a simple Sneaky Pete, either of which is calculated, by its appearance, not to scare off his mark. The ones I definitely look out for are the guys who bring in a simple old BEM Joss or Meucci with no points, no ringwork, a simple linen-wrapped handle and the cue is totally discolored and full of dents, the butt bumper is missing and there are chunks of plastic missing from the butt sleeve from banging the cue on the floor.

On the other hand, when I'm on the road for any kind of trip, I will scope out the POOL HALLs (not the bars) to see what kind of "talent" they have. I will find a few guys who "think" they know what they're doing and eventually will match up with a couple of them. However, I do not make the match while I'm still there.

What I do is to wait a few hours or maybe a day, then come back carrying my "hustler," rent a table by myself and, soon enough, one of the smartasses will come over looking for the "easy hit." Their supposed "knowledge" kills them every time. When you see th picture below, you will understand.

My "hustler" is one of those old mid-1960's $6.95 K-Mart cues. It's the kind with the handle that is HAND-CARVED by Phillipinos. The butt is made out of the cheap, light-weight Phillipino walnut and originally came with a cheap Phillipino ramin shaft with a screw-on tip.

Of course, I've changed it a little bit. A 1-1/2 oz. weight bolt was added to bring it up to decent weight. The ramin shaft has been replaced with a very fine, highly-figured ash shaft made to my own specs -- the original joint pin and collars were saved and reused on the shaft replacement to make it look as original as possible. The tip is a Moori Medium.

I picked the ash over the hard rock maple because it can easily be mistaken for some other kind of CHEAP shaft and adds to the overall "funky" appearance of the cue. When I drop my beat-up old $9 cloth cue-case on the table, then haul out this cheap-looking cue in a decent class pool hall, they all trip all over each other to see who will get to my table first.

This little sweetheart, which I call my "Pinoy Eliminator," plays really nicely the way I have it set up. It has made me a bunch of money and lost me very little -- not because I am a very good pool player, but because I have been smart/lucky enough to attract the "right" customers ... :D

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What a great story on how to do this stuff. The psychology is awesome. The beat-up old cloth cue case is a classic.

I figger those bar tables are made for hustlin'...

Plus the hand carved butts take first prize.

Are those things available anywhere?

Heck, I bet I could carve up the butt of one of my cues... Now that's an idea!

Flex
 
Anybody ever buy some of those screw on tips and put a top quality tip on it? Then sneak it in and put it on one of the house cues?
 
Flex said:
Anybody ever buy some of those screw on tips and put a top quality tip on it? Then sneak it in and put it on one of the house cues?
Flex you "sneaky" person you.You should write a book "How to Hustle the Hustlers"..:D
 
Flex said:
What's a hustler's favorite pool cue? Is it a house cue? A sneaky pete? A Cuetec? Something really flashy and expensive?

The only true "hustler" I know? A guy who can run racks in either 9 ball or 8 ball? He shoots with what looks like a cheap semi sneaky...it's leather wrap is loose, stitches undone. The shaft? The tip? Well, that is much better than the back half. 'Nuff said. So, I voted for "custom"...because that's what it is. It's just not a pretty custom, you know? He carries his gear in a cheap nylon case that has an NFL logo. Players beware!;)
 
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Ernie Sellers

In the 70s one of the top hustlers on the planet was a guy from New Orleans named Ernie Sellers. Ernie would play off the wall until he got a considerable money game then tell the guy he would be right back, go out to his car and get his personal cue. If they had agreed to play for $100 a game when Ernie came back there was a good chance his sucker would ask him to bet $200 per game. This is the cue Ernie would walk back in with. He played as well with this cue as he would have with a real Balabushka. Bob Meucci made the business end of the shaft and that was all Ernie needed.
 
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JAM said:
LOL! :D When I was playing pool every single day and night, it was at a neighborhood gathering spot in Maryland. We had quite a few regulars there who'd show up on a daily basis to shoot pool on the one and only bar box in the joint. :p

Back then, they didn't have any wooden house cues. They were all metal cues, and for whatever reason, I shot my best pool with that metal cue.

Chester Morris, a trick shot artist and cuestick peddler, came to the tavern one day and was selling cue sticks out of his trunk. I purchased a sneaky pete from him with an ivory ferrule, and having a cue of this caliber was pretty cool. However, it was that metal cue that I seemed to always go for when I was trying to hold the table for a spell. Beating them guys out of a brewskie or a dollar was the best pool high.

As the years went by, I was, in fact, considered one of the best players in the joint, and I thought so, too; that is, until I was introduced to the pool room, the 9-foot tables, and the road players.

I really enjoyed pool when I was playing on the Busch League. I was a 6 out of 7, and on a bar box with a big cueball playing 8-ball, that metal cuestick was my favorite weapon of mass destruction! :D

JAM
Hello Jam!
I figured I was the only guy on this forum ever heard of Chester - some called him Gump as I recall. I have 1 of his cues probably 40 years old - unfortunately he didn't sign it or anything. I used to make the rounds in MD. you probably got some of my money!
I heard from a guy not too long ago that he (gump) is down in Fla. now

As far as the stick goes it don't matter if you play with a broomstick - most guys will clock you sooner rather than later. I saw guys play with their cases back in the day - usually wanted the 5 - but still they always ended up winning.
patrick
 
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