What's your shot??

looks like you could put the 2 ball on the end rail and leave the cue on or near the nine. Possibly move the 3 -9 to a good spot for later. In fact the 9 would come off the rail and push the 3 up to the long rail and hold on the end rail. With the 2 on the other end I'd say you have the advantage.
 
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Neil said:
What's your shot?? - Today, 01:09 PM
Diamond barbox, score is 3-1 you in a 5-3 race playing 9 ball. It's your turn. The carom off the 3 to make the 9 MIGHT be possible, but you have to get in just the right spot, and hit into the rail hard before hitting the 3 to make the 9. Very, very tricky shot. Your opponent is a B player, fulling capable of running out most of the time when the balls co-operate. When they don't, he has no problem going for a break speed flyer. What would you do here??


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I might try to hit the 2 two rails as full as possible sticking the CB right beside the 9 without moving the 3 or 9. Even if you leave a shot on the 2 not much can be done with the 3 sitting where it is.
 
I would kick off the left side rail (middle diamond point) with a little right hand english and clip the edge of the 2 (rolling it into the 9)and have whitey roll up table :thumbup2:
 
Shots like this can be really tricky in controlling the CB (esp on a bar box) so its better to leave them rough with a kick combo safe and let your opponent try something ridiculous and sell out...
 
i would try to cut the 2 ball to the right to hold it in that area using the 9 or 3 and bring the cueball up table.
 
Assuming I can bank the two off the rail without a double kiss, I'm going to bank the two at a speed to come off the top side rail and come to rest near the left end rail. Low on the cue ball so that it taps the nine which will likely come off the rail, hit the three and roll out to a point that would hook the shooter on the two.

If no hook results, you are still leaving him a long tough from end rail to end rail. You will have freed the 3-9 cluster and if he fails at a safety attempt or make attempt, you have the table.
 
Neil said:
What's your shot?? - Today, 01:09 PM
Diamond barbox, score is 3-1 you in a 5-3 race playing 9 ball. It's your turn. The carom off the 3 to make the 9 MIGHT be possible, but you have to get in just the right spot, and hit into the rail hard before hitting the 3 to make the 9. Very, very tricky shot. Your opponent is a B player, fulling capable of running out most of the time when the balls co-operate. When they don't, he has no problem going for a break speed flyer. What would you do here??


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Gonna nick the 2-ball with left english and put whitey down table near
the end rail.
If he wants to take a flyer..he can go right ahead,it's not a winning shot.
If he wants to play safe back at me the balls will be reconfigured and I
might trap him.
 
Neil said:
I did not want to disturb the 3-9. I figured that if I went off the left edge of the two for the safe, and didn't hit it real, real good, I would set up the 2-9 possible combo. Giving him a free whack at it. I knew leaving the 2 at the other end of the table would probably end up giving him a shot, and then he would be playing safe off the 3 and putting me in trouble.

So, I figured my best bet would be to double kiss of the two, trying to leave it there, and try and get the cb between the rail and the 7 to try and hook him. Low percentage, but I felt that if I failed at the hook, he still would be in trouble, and probably break everything out for me.

Well, as often happens, it didn't go quite as planned. I double kissed off the 2, but misjudged the angle a little and hit the 7. And, I GOT A ROLL! The 7 went in, the two did not stay near the rail, and I had a shot on the 2! (He thought I planned it all! heh, heh.:D)

The next part was a little tricky, and took a good stroke and speed, but I was able to make the two, follow down, clip the 9, and get perfect on the 3 for the runnout.

I posted this one to show the oft forgotten double kiss safe possiblity. It doesn't always work, but is often there. When it works, the ob stays on the rail, and you can often control the cb enough to hook your opponent.
In this case, I hit it way too hard.:embarrassed2:

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Neil,

Thank you for posting threads like this. I always look forward to reading the different ideas that come up, and I always look forward to hearing what you decided and how it worked (or didn't).

I look forward to your next installment.

Thanks,
Dave

PS: These threads are much more interesting than the CTE marketing and mud slinging threads. :wink:
 
I would take the unglamorous shot, thin the 2 and leave the cue ball up table without disturbing the 3/9.
 
dr_dave said:
These threads are much more interesting than the CTE marketing and mud slinging threads. :wink:
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Amen, brother.

Regarding Neil's typically knotty situation: I admire Neil's creativity, but no way do I pass up this opportunity to uncluster the 3/9 - I'm bunting the 2 behind the 7 to the head rail and hopefully safing the CB off the 9. I especially like the fact that with the 2 on the head rail both long bank lanes are blocked.

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I'm taking the high karate flyer at the center/right side of the two, double kiss eating english the 9 into the corner. :thumbup:
 
Neil said:
Yes, that would be optimal. But, if you hit the 2 a hair to full, and move it into the 9, the 3 will move. Leaving a dead 2-9 combo possibility. That is why I ruled that option out.
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From the angle I'm looking at on my screen I don't see how the 2 can get into the 9 unless it double kisses the cue ball.

I do concur with others who enjoy these thought provoking threads. Beats the heck out of the aiming system and "I hate the APA" threads which populate this forum.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Amen, brother.

Regarding Neil's typically knotty situation: I admire Neil's creativity, but no way I do I pass up this opportunity to uncluster the 3/9 - I'm bunting the 2 behind the 7 to the head rail and hopefully safing the CB off the 9. I especially like the fact that with the 2 on the head rail both long bank lanes are blocked.

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I don't like this shot for one reason. If you open up the 3/9 but your speed if off on the 2 ball (2 stops well short of the end rail) you will leave a natural back cut at the corner pocket in which the cue naturally comes two rails for shape on the 3 ball and you opponent is dead out. Not to mention if your opponent over cuts the 2 ball at the corner the 2 will hit the side rail, bank back to the center of the end rail and the cue comes two rails possibly hooking you with the 7 ball.

just my 2 cents. :thumbup:
 
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