And that is what is happening
World 8 Ball Championships - Ridiculousness
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And that is what is happening
Thanks Doug! Actually, the post before yours prompted me to go look, and you're right:
http://wpa-pool.com/web/world_champions
My bad. But still, I'm thinking Karl should at least have an automatic "in" based on the fact he won it the prior year, and not have to "qualify" when there are players invited to the event that've never won it.
-Sean
Thanks for the clear up guys. Then your answer is no only the defending champion gets a automatic invite. If you want to invite past champions where is the cut off gonna be? How many years back? Also how many current players that deserve to be invited miss out because of passed champions taking up the spots?
That is always going to happen when you need a geographic spread of players. The alternative would probably see 40 FILIPINOS plus a dozen each from the rest of Asia and Europe
As a past champion, he should be invited back.
This is 100% correct.
I agree with this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The promoter/sheik couldn't care less. If the WPA allowed them to get away with it, they would probably try to have 50 of the 64 be from the Emirates.
And as a past champion he may no longer be able to play dead. I know of several past champions in events who have no business there any longer. As we get old we just don't play as well. I'm not saying this guy is old but just having won once doesn't mean he is qualified to play in an invitational tournament for life. Let him qualify and then he can play.
Life is too long. But 5 years, maybe 10, is very reasonable. It helps builds a story to the tournament.
You have the past championship group to always follow, and compare their performance to the new players while doing commentating, or promotion for the event. Maybe a guy wins at 40, and then is eligible to play when he is 50, his last year (if 10 yrs). Now, you have a story that this legend and past champion is on his last year. He could draw a crowd just because people always want to see the underdog do well, especially if its his last chance in life. This is exactly what happened with Jack Nicklaus and his last major he was still qualified to play in.
Stories and spins like this have the potential to make the game more interesting to the fans.
You have the past championship group to always follow, and compare their performance to the new players while doing commentating, or promotion for the event. Maybe a guy wins at 40, and then is eligible to play when he is 50, his last year (if 10 yrs). Now, you have a story that this legend and past champion is on his last year. He could draw a crowd just because people always want to see the underdog do well, especially if its his last chance in life. This is exactly what happened with Jack Nicklaus and his last major he was still qualified to play in.
Stories and spins like this have the potential to make the game more interesting to the fans.
You are absolutely right, Great that Nathan brought this to everyones attention
It should at least be five. I cannot believe that this was said...
Bob Jewett said:
A guy that won a world championship in the dicipline of 8-ball against the best players on the planet is not at the level needed 5 years later because HE DID NOT PLAY GOOD ENOUGH 9-BALL AND 10-BALL over the course of the year? I mean think about this, you are talking about a world champ who WON the last time he played in the world 8-ball championships against the best players out of the tournament only 2 years ago. And you are not letting this guy play in the championship 2 years later because he did not qualify high enough in rotational pool? And you act as if this is pure common sense and a totally logical move in your reply no less. That is idiotic, seriously.
Karl Boyes is NOT the defending champ even if he didn't compete in 2011...
To Bob, Dennis Orcullo is his birthname, but when he got a passport they printed Orcollo. That's why you see both in use.
To Bob, Dennis Orcullo is his birthname, but when he got a passport they printed Orcollo. That's why you see both in use.
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For how long? We had this discussion when Grady didn't get invited for World 14-1, but I'll give it a go again.
If World 8-ball and it's sponsors wants this to be a high-level 64-player event, and you expect that during the next 50 years there will be 40+ different champs. Should they automatically get their spots in this 64-player event no matter how they play and what age they are?
I know this is far off from the Boyes issue, but I just want to see if you really mean it when saying getting a spot for life...
Btw, when Matchroom did the World 9-ball Championships I think the last 16 got invite for next year, and past 5 winners got invite.
I liked that
That was a 128 round robin event
I liked that
That was a 128 round robin event
Karl did play this year, so he got his chance to defend his title... He finished 17th.
The 2011 World 8-Ball Championship kicks off play on Sunday the 20th of February at 1pm (4am EST) with 112 players competing for this prestigious title.
Reigning World 8-Ball Champion Karl Boyes starts his campaign with a 1pm match against Fahad Khalaf Aljassas from Brunei.
Other notables who find themselves competing in the 1pm round include Rodney Morris, Huidje See, Konstantin Stepanov, Rodolfo Luat and Marcus Chamat.
Follow all of the action with our online brackets and real time scoring at www.azbilliards.com/2011w8bc
By AzB Staff - 2011-02-20
The 2011 World 8-Ball Championship kicks off play on Sunday the 20th of February at 1pm (4am EST) with 112 players competing for this prestigious title.
Reigning World 8-Ball Champion Karl Boyes starts his campaign with a 1pm match against Fahad Khalaf Aljassas from Brunei.
Other notables who find themselves competing in the 1pm round include Rodney Morris, Huidje See, Konstantin Stepanov, Rodolfo Luat and Marcus Chamat.
Follow all of the action with our online brackets and real time scoring at www.azbilliards.com/2011w8bc
By AzB Staff - 2011-02-20
You say off year. What do you mean, cause from what I can tell he cashed in world 8-ball, world 9-ball, world 10-ball, china open, all eurotours and all tourstops at great britain 9-ball tour. That's a lot of playing for a guy having a year off.
Don't get me wrong, I mean there should be a 5 year invite for past champs and would love to see Karl playing the world 8-ball, but when he is no longer defending champ and played all those events in 2011 but failed to get high enough on the ranking/meet the critieria to be chosen, why should he get a spot?
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