You are out of the loop.westcoast said:
There are two major "Lords of pool" in Philippines. One is supporting the event more than the other, I'll let you guess the rest.
World Ten Ball updates
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There are two major "Lords of pool" in Philippines. One is supporting the event more than the other, I'll let you guess the rest.
Magix...I think you will find what you are looking for here....
BrandyWine said:You can also find updates on the Main AzBilliards Forum Thread under:
Tournament Talk
World 10 Ball Championships
Jerry and Mike are posting updates and pictures. I will ask Mike about brackets when he calls later but I am sure he is working on it.
They are kicking the jet-lag and getting busy.
Magix...I think you will find what you are looking for here....
Mike was supposed to call me back but has not yet. I'll check with him in the a.m.
Mike was supposed to call me back but has not yet. I'll check with him in the a.m.
BrandyWine said:You can also find updates on the Main AzBilliards Forum Thread under:
Tournament Talk
World 10 Ball Championships
Jerry and Mike are posting updates and pictures. I will ask Mike about brackets when he calls later but I am sure he is working on it.
They are kicking the jet-lag and getting busy.
You can check the results here ---> http://www.wpa-tour.com/
Click the "Draw & Results"
Click the "Draw & Results"
gopi-1 said:
Well, schitt. NEver thought I'd say, 'Go Charlie!", but I did...:wink:
gopi-1 said:
I would only call the Tony Drago match for a minor upset. I was not surprised by any of the other results...
Nick van den Berg has been one of Europe's best players for years. Charlie Williams has just had some superb months, while Raj probably can't remember last time he won a tournament.
Mark Gray is nr 1 on the ranking for the Eurotour, while Radoslaw Babica is barely in top 16.
Why was ronnie wiseman a forfeit?Does anyone know what happened?Actually was'nt he just in the states this weekend?
First day pbservations.
The refs are racking the balls by hand, on pre-dented tables. UGH! It just goes against everything Ive learned the last 30-40 years. the roll of a slow moving ball absolutely could be affected by the dents in the cloth. There are perfectly good Brunswick racks under each table. Why not use them? I KNOW I can put a better rack up there using a good rack then anyone can using their bare hands!!
I am watching refs roll balls into place a few at a time. A tight rack? No way! The only rack you can put up fairly tight with your hands is Six Ball. Interestingly most players don't seem to mind. I would have thought there would be an uproar. The Brunswick Gold Crowns V's are beautiful table's. They just need to be releveled, still a lot of roll offs.
The rules here are also new. It is "call shot" Ten Ball, and you must make the ball you call. No "two way" shots here. Other rules are quite confusing to me. There are several instances where your opponent can make you shoot again. Not just on a push out. Too many rules and it can be confusing for some players. You can call safe and make a ball. It's now your oppnent's turn. They have taken a great game like Ten Ball and made it look like Eight Ball. Who's responsible for this I don't know. I can only guess. :wink:
The matches now become strategic battles in many instances. Perhaps they play this way in Europe, advantage Eurotour players!
At least you can win on the break and the winner gets to break the next game.
The refs are racking the balls by hand, on pre-dented tables. UGH! It just goes against everything Ive learned the last 30-40 years. the roll of a slow moving ball absolutely could be affected by the dents in the cloth. There are perfectly good Brunswick racks under each table. Why not use them? I KNOW I can put a better rack up there using a good rack then anyone can using their bare hands!!
I am watching refs roll balls into place a few at a time. A tight rack? No way! The only rack you can put up fairly tight with your hands is Six Ball. Interestingly most players don't seem to mind. I would have thought there would be an uproar. The Brunswick Gold Crowns V's are beautiful table's. They just need to be releveled, still a lot of roll offs.
The rules here are also new. It is "call shot" Ten Ball, and you must make the ball you call. No "two way" shots here. Other rules are quite confusing to me. There are several instances where your opponent can make you shoot again. Not just on a push out. Too many rules and it can be confusing for some players. You can call safe and make a ball. It's now your oppnent's turn. They have taken a great game like Ten Ball and made it look like Eight Ball. Who's responsible for this I don't know. I can only guess. :wink:
The matches now become strategic battles in many instances. Perhaps they play this way in Europe, advantage Eurotour players!
At least you can win on the break and the winner gets to break the next game.
Wiseman obviously didn't make the trip to Manila, as he played in the Michigan Players Tour, this past weekend in Holland, MI. Considering that he didn't win that event, he might not have fared well in the PI anyway.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
jimmy-leggs said:
Jay...Didn't you ever see Jack White rack an 8-ball rack with his hands? He could rack them as tight, using his hands (with NO dents in the cloth), as anyone else, using a rack. I learned how to do it fairly well, but never as smooth as Jack.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
jay helfert said:
Didn't see Charlie Bryant's name on the draw either. 
I thought he got an invite.
I thought he got an invite.
jay helfert said:
Thank you for the insight. Jay, where is your customary behind the scenes thread? You've always had one when you were in the PI. The tourney scores are a lot easier to look up. I personally like hearing more about the afterhours match-ups. Thanks in advance.
jay helfert said:
I agree with some of what you say Jay, I too have seen things which I don't like.
One thing is certain, Matchroom Sport have nothing to fear from this organisation, it is a bit shoddy in comparison to what we are used to.
I don't know who is calling the shots here, but they should have learned more from the "English Professionals" who were responsible for the last two years's tournaments.
With regard to tapping the tables, if we had to rely on the refs to rack, the matches would take much longer to complete (and some of them are already taking up the complete two hours allowed as there is quite a lot of safety play) since there would inevitably be arguments from the players over the racking. The tapping mat used does give a tight rack, that has been proved in Europe over the past couple of years.
This is call shot and if a player pots the ball in the wrong pocket and ends up hooking his opponent this gives him an unfair advantage so I consider the rule which allows the incoming player to refuse the shot, the correct one.
There are too many lucky shots in 9 ball for my liking and the way the ten ball is being played is much fairer.
I think you are wrong about the "safe shot", you may call a safe (not sure why you have to) but if you accidentally pot the ball, the opponent has the right to accept the position or hand it back. I don't see too much of a problem with that.
However it does seem to be an unneccesary rule.