Bob Jewett said:

How much difference do you think the cloth makes? 30 points?

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garczar said:

There used to be a good roadie from Colo. named Junior Harris. He said he was at a tourn. back in the mid 80's and as pre-match warm-up he watched ER run three racks of rotation. Guess what? Turned out Junior had drawn er and hadn't checked the draw sheet. ooops.

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iusedtoberich said:

... Me personally, I'd bet all day long on the ghost vs a 699 and below on a normal pool room 9' pro-cut Diamond. All day and tomorrow. 500 robustness on the player minimum.

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garczar said:

You can't compare winning games in competition to playing the ghost. Please. Who really gives a shit what someone's 'GhostGo' rating is? The ONLY way they MIGHT mean anything is if the game is 'pro ghost' as in NO ball in hand. Even then its not the same. Playing actual comp. and playing the ghost are two totally different things. Why do people worry about this?

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garczar said:

The ghost is great practice but i'd never use it to Fargo somebody. You get to break every game, win or lose. Playing a REAL person you might be in your chair a while(winner break of course). Best ghost match i ever saw was Efren playing ROTATION ghost in Calif. He beat the ghost at HardTimes race to 25. It was ridiculous. You have to break great and get a tad lucky as well. A lil of ER's deal: Login to view embedded media

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skogstokig said:

he's from the muslim parts of philippines, hence the name. i misspelled. plays mostly heyball now tournament wise

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maha said:

there is and has been other pool history people here but they get run off by the nay sayers too often.
as there is no personal benefit to posting here other than fun. everything else you can gain just by listening in.

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GideonF said:

Mike Page posted something a few years after John made the switch. John dipped down for a while after the switch and then returned to the same rating.

I can also add that I had the great pleasure of watching John while he made the change. John plays out of the same pool room I do in Toronto. When the pain got so great that he had to take a hiatus from playing pool, he started playing a bit with his left hand.

John’s idol in cue sports is the great Ronnie O’Sullivan and he had previously worked on trying to play left handed well enough to not need a bridge on many shots. So he wasn’t starting playing left-handed from nothing, but my guess is that when he first started experimenting left-handed full time he was probably around 700 Fargo with his left hand. All of the knowledge was still there, of course, and 90% of the shots were fine. But when it came to a tester or a shot that required power, he did not have the same degree of confidence.


What I got to see were the countless hours he put in practising left-handed, building up the same level of expertise and confidence to be able to play tough shots under pressure, where the real champions need it.

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bbb said:

With all due respect that makes absolutely no sense
Playing the ghost means can you run out nine balls after the break?
The ghost’s Fargo rating has nothing to do with your rating
The ghost really has no forgo rating
Cause you’re really playing yourself
Can you run out or not?
However, there is a correlation to how well you run out based on your Fargo rating.
The better you are the more times you will run out
the highest win percentage meaning they ran out more times on a relative basis therefore they be the highest fargo
Also, your chart implied games not sets

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