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mr3cushion
PhilosopherKing said:
Can you post pictures. Very interested in Guffey cues, and not a lot of info/examples out there.
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It's a very simple Carom cue, Burgandy-stained Birdseye Maple.

In 1990 my friend Paul Jones was in OK spoke with John, about me. He'd said He had never built a Carom cue.
He called me, I gave John all the specs I prefer over the phone.
3 months later, the cue arrived at my home, the cue came out 98% perfect!
I was amazed, for a cue maker that had never built one before!

Here I am playing (with John Guffey cue) in the 93 3C World Teams Championship with Sang Lee representing the USA!

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Anniversary values

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Look at the veneer (or lack thereof) on the pedestals...
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Geoff - maybe you have access to more pix than above, but one of my first thoughts was "wow - the veneer on the legs/(pedestals) looks really great and not delaminating!" Even the sheet metal parts are not as beat up as some.

Not questioning value estimate - i have absolutely no idea. But the basic exterior cabinet looks pretty good.
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Why Pool Leagues Should Embrace “ALL BALL FOULS”

dr_dave
sjm said:
I'm dropping this debate.
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Good, then I get the last word. :geek:

sjm said:
There's an old saying that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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... but it is broke. There are often misunderstanding, disagreements, and bad feelings surrounding all the different cases involving "CB Fouls Only" rules, especially with the examples demonstrated in the video:
- re-positioning a moved ball in a close-by but much worse place.
- moving an obstacle ball during a shot with the cue, for example during the follow-through of a jump or masse shot, even though the obstacle ball is cleared by the CB.
- deciding if a moved ball affected a shot or not by moving it to a place where it would not be hit by a moving ball.
- deciding whether of not more than one ball was touched or moved during a shot.
- etc.!
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Why Pool Leagues Should Embrace “ALL BALL FOULS”

sjm
dr_dave said:
Any knowledgeable player who has played in leagues before knows that many (if not most) players (and many refs at the national tournaments) are clueless concerning how to accurately detect double hits and wrong-ball-first fouls. And bad or disagreeable calls in these situations, which come up often, certainly result in arguments, bad feelings, and less fun.

Would having fewer fouls in US amateur league play make the game more enjoyable for the bulk of the American league players? The list of possible fouls is currently very long. And the long description of all the special cases for "CB Fouls Only" is a bit ridiculous.

Maybe I should do a video on why the APA should embrace "No Ball Fouls." Just play and have fun. Don't worry about all the "silly" fouls called in other leagues like:
- CB touches with or without ball in hand
- double hits
- no rail contact after the hit with and without rail-frozen balls
- wrong-ball-first for close, near-split-hit shots
- push shots
- intentional miscues
- scoop jump shots
- cue lift shots (already allowed in the APA)
- driving balls off the table
- not having a foot on the floor during a hit
- not marking the pocket for the 8 (currently penalized in the APA)
- etc.!
What do you and others think?
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I'm dropping this debate. There's an old saying that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. The "cue ball fouls only" rules have served the amateur player well for decades, yet all of a sudden, the rule is a problem. I'm not sure when or how it became a problem. Don't fix it. I will cling to the hope that the major league operators understand this and will not adopt "all ball fouls."
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Why Pool Leagues Should Embrace “ALL BALL FOULS”

fastone371
I think its disgusting when people let their hair lay all over everything on the table, that's one aspect that would make all ball fouls the proper way to play. With all of the cue ball only fouls you can get into with moving multiple balls, a ball passing thru the area a ball was moved from, repositioning a moved ball, etc I think all ball fouls would make it easier. If you were to play all ball fouls and you consider your league more social than competitive you also have the option to stop your opponent mid shot and tell them it looks like they touched a ball with clothing and let them reset without penalty, its a great learning experience for new players. I have done this with new players when I can see they are about to commit a foul, for example when 2 balls are almost but not quite touching and they are lining up to shoot directly into them. I have stopped them and explained how its going to be a foul, how you can tell its a foul and then I show them how to shoot it so its not a foul. All the people I have done this with have appreciated it so far.
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