All around best american player??

[JCIN]

U my friend are whom the Terms of Endearment mini series was based on.

ONE ANSWER::::::::::::::::::::::;
Open you pocket books.


SVB.....

Well I dont know what that means but I do know SVB ain't playing no all around with Schmidt or Harriman if 14.1 and 1 Pocket are in the mix. The kid has played 14.1 like 5 times and it bores the shit out of him plus he has a ways to go with the one hole to beat top guys even.

Take out 14.1 put in 8 ball and he would probably play a lot of people.

Since I have never EVER heard of one of these mythical all games sets actually happening I will look on in amusement as the games offered get wackier and wackier. Someone nut the fvck up and bet a finger.

 

[markpatrick]

Harriman and Schmidt?

J,
I challenge you to a race to 49 barbox 8 ball (I know its your favorite). But first you have to shadow me for a month. You have to consumer 7000 unnecessary calories a day, watch 2-3 hours of internet porn of your choosing on a daily basis and use your water buffalo tag. Loser has to room with Schmidt and Harriman for a year. You down or are you scared?!!!

Did you get buyin from either of these guys? THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THAT DANNY AND JOHN WOULD SHARE A ROOM WITH ANYONE FOR A YEAR, SURE THE HELL NOT WITH BOTH OF THEM IN THE SAME ROOM.???

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

[TWOFORPOOL]

No I am not saying a race to 100 don't require focuse... But it's not the same by any means. After each game you get to reset and start over this is not the same as 300 - 400 balls with out a miss. Checkers vs. Chess

After each rack of 14.1 you get to reset also! Didn't a pro (who didn't play 14.1) after a couple of weeks instuction win a major 14.1 tournament? I believe it was Johnny Archer. IMO 14.1 is a dying game is because its a boring game to most people who watch it. I believe the toughest game is one pocket.

 

[JCIN]

J,
I challenge you to a race to 49 barbox 8 ball (I know its your favorite). But first you have to shadow me for a month. You have to consume 7000 unnecessary calories a day, watch 2-3 hours of internet porn of your choosing on a daily basis and use your water buffalo tag. Loser has to room with Schmidt and Harriman for a year. You down or are you scared?!!!

Beav my man you get it! These are the realistic type offers that I like to see cause there is a real chance they could happen. I have a stipulation though. If I lose I refuse to be the little spoon with Schmitty. We tried that once and I haven't been right since. No I wont go into details.

LMAO@ "use your water buffalo tag". God that never gets old. LOL

 

[derekdisco]

Can someone post cliffnotes please, but you dont have to include supernovas favorite player.

 

[TWOFORPOOL]

Well I guess I will leave it as this. Go ask any Champion who is a great all around player which is more difficult. putting a 8pack on someone or running 200 in straight pool?

I would think that John Schmit has ran more 200s in straight pool than he has ran 8 packs in 9 ball. I would would think he has ran more 200s in straight pool than a 8 packs in 10 ball. I would be surprised that John has ever ran a 8 pack in ten ball (it's that much tougher than 9 ball).

I mean no disrespect to John but running 72 balls (80 balls in 10 ball) in order seems to me to be harder than running 200 ball ramdonly.

 

[JCIN]

Can someone post cliffnotes please, but you dont have to include supernovas favorite player.

Cliffs notes:

Ronnie Allen was better than Efren.

Efren was better than Ronnie.

14.1 is a tough and beautiful game.

14.1 is only played by communists and fags.

Larry Nevel is god, Schmitty is a heartless worm.

Schmitty is god Nevel is a crazy psycho

Bartram plays poker

Thats about it pretty much.

 

[markpatrick]

14.1 is a DYING game

After each rack of 14.1 you get to reset also! Didn't a pro (who didn't play 14.1) after a couple of weeks instuction win a major 14.1 tournament? I believe it was Johnny Archer. IMO 14.1 is a dying game is because its a boring game to most people who watch it. I believe the toughest game is one pocket.

If that is TRUE it is SO sad. The greats of the PAST mastered 14.1 it is by far the most challenging of pool games. One Pocket????? YAWN.

14.1 defines true champions, from a guy that can run 9 0r 10 balls and break and make another ball.

HOPEFULLY 14.1 WILL NEVER DIE,, BUT PICK UP STEAM AND be the game of the future. Even if tournaments die down, which they have never picked up for this vien of the sport, those who watch is are amazed at the skill of someone running 150 plus balls. It takes a WHILE. But if you have ever had the opportunity to watch such a shooting exhibition, you cannot get enough of it.

 

[TWOFORPOOL]

The funny thing is that our most recent action in Vegas has been from High "B" and Low "A" players. Some $500 sets and even a couple $2,000 sets. This coming from players that might break and run one or two racks in a race to 10. The guys that can really play are busted and wont play unless they have the total nutzzzzz.

Or Staked!

 

[derekdisco]

8 ball/9ball/1 pocket/banks/14.1, only because I dont know how a lot of the american pros play 14.1, im gonna say Danny H takes it down vs any american in this format. Just my opinion. have a nice day.

 

[allen_jr]

Offer for MrSuprNova

I've browsed through this post and seen many of your rantings about 14.1, and how easy it is. So, here is my offer:

Bring Larry, or whomever you like, to the poolroom of your choice in Vegas next month, I'll be there May 10-23. Choose a nice full size table with some good chairs for viewing. A place with nice cold beer would be good too.

Your chosen player can break and run over 400 balls and I will pay them $1000. If they fail to run over 400 balls, they pay me $1000.

Since it is such an easy practice game, I assume this should be quite simple, as well as profitable.

Do we have a deal?

Until you find someone willing to take this offer, please consider refraining from talking about how silly and easy 14.1 is.

 

[derekdisco]

I've browsed through this post and seen many of your rantings about 14.1, and how easy it is. So, here is my offer:

Bring Larry, or whomever you like, to the poolroom of your choice in Vegas next month, I'll be there May 10-23. Choose a nice full size table with some good chairs for viewing. A place with nice cold beer would be good too.

Your chosen player can break and run over 400 balls and I will pay them $1000. If they fail to run over 400 balls, they pay me $1000.

Since it is such an easy practice game, I assume this should be quite simple, as well as profitable.

Do we have a deal?

Until you find someone willing to take this offer, please consider refraining from talking about how silly and easy 14.1 is.

Did you read all that before you hit submit?

 

[allen_jr]

Sure, it's worth a sweat

I'd enjoy watching it, anyone can do that deserves a G here and there

 

[jmurphy]

I would think that John Schmit has ran more 200s in straight pool than he has ran 8 packs in 9 ball. I would would think he has ran more 200s in straight pool than a 8 packs in 10 ball. I would be surprised that John has ever ran a 8 pack in ten ball (it's that much tougher than 9 ball).

I mean no disrespect to John but running 72 balls (80 balls in 10 ball) in order seems to me to be harder than running 200 ball ramdonly.

My whole point is that if you were to ask The all time greats of the game, ie: Varner, Hall, Sigel, Massey, Reid, Rempe, Mathews, etc...... Which game in pool requires the most skill & focuse to master, I think everyone of them would say Straight Pool hands down.

 

[CreeDo]

Just an observation, the majors bet isn't a fair bet because john really makes a living at it, while it's just a side hobby for larry. So larry's effectively not betting as much. I dunno what larry does but he basically would have to quit that job (in addition to not entering pro events). BTW what does he do?

Donny woofing at john was a little surprising. If Donny's RYO 9b wasn't enough to put down shane, I would think last 2 against john is pretty risky. That's some gamble. I actually half though he was maybe making the offer to bartrum at first.

I feel for john, he had Danny calling him no heart spineless coward etc etc and now he's got suprnevel riding his ass. John's proud of how he can actually make a living doing what he loves, and how he manages his money. Maybe one of the reasons he can do that is he doesn't let stuff like that get under his skin. Meanwhile, the guys who apparently DO let stuff get under their skin, like larry and danny, apparently aren't enjoying the same level of pool success as john.

 

[poolhustla61508]

Maybe Larry and John should compromise and play 14.1 on the bar table......lol

 

[john schmidt]

hi

I would think that John Schmit has ran more 200s in straight pool than he has ran 8 packs in 9 ball. I would would think he has ran more 200s in straight pool than a 8 packs in 10 ball. I would be surprised that John has ever ran a 8 pack in ten ball (it's that much tougher than 9 ball).

I mean no disrespect to John but running 72 balls (80 balls in 10 ball) in order seems to me to be harder than running 200 ball ramdonly.

running 8 racks is just unlikely because you got to get shot on lowest ball which is luck.


how about this ill play ten ball, break them take ball in hand to start.

another player can play 14.1 with ball in hand on every breakball and i promise i run 8 racks of 10ball before they run 200.

running 72 in numerical order is easier then 200 in 14.1 ,it just seems harder because you have to get lucky and get shot on 1 ball.

to run 8 racks of 10ball takes way more luck off break,14.,1 you have to get position on like 15 breakballs and make them.200 is harder i promise then running 10ball in order because you dont have to leave break ball you rack them up and bust them.


once again im saying running 8 racks at 10ball is more unlikely but not harder.only reason is because you have to get shot on 1ball.

if you fix that problem by giving player ball in hand after 10ball break you would see top players could run 8 racks of 10ball way more often then running 200.
ill even give them bih on bb in 14.1 every rack and believe me thats huge because thats the toughest shot eack rack usually.

also in 14.1 your not shooting randomly,you have to set up for breakball and break rack out ,with tons of tight pos,clusters etc etc.

funny thing to me but all the guys on tour who say 14.1 is boring and easy have high runs of like 67,and when they play the game they look like their head is going to explode.

 

[john schmidt]

hi

If that is TRUE it is SO sad. The greats of the PAST mastered 14.1 it is by far the most challenging of pool games. One Pocket????? YAWN.

14.1 defines true champions, from a guy that can run 9 0r 10 balls and break and make another ball.

HOPEFULLY 14.1 WILL NEVER DIE,, BUT PICK UP STEAM AND be the game of the future. Even if tournaments die down, which they have never picked up for this vien of the sport, those who watch is are amazed at the skill of someone running 150 plus balls. It takes a WHILE. But if you have ever had the opportunity to watch such a shooting exhibition, you cannot get enough of it.

good post mark ,so true.

 

[john schmidt]

hi

8 ball/9ball/1 pocket/banks/14.1, only because I dont know how a lot of the american pros play 14.1, im gonna say Danny H takes it down vs any american in this format. Just my opinion. have a nice day.

i agree,good accurate post disco.

 

[john schmidt]

hi

I've browsed through this post and seen many of your rantings about 14.1, and how easy it is. So, here is my offer:

Bring Larry, or whomever you like, to the poolroom of your choice in Vegas next month, I'll be there May 10-23. Choose a nice full size table with some good chairs for viewing. A place with nice cold beer would be good too.

Your chosen player can break and run over 400 balls and I will pay them $1000. If they fail to run over 400 balls, they pay me $1000.

Since it is such an easy practice game, I assume this should be quite simple, as well as profitable.

Do we have a deal?

Until you find someone willing to take this offer, please consider refraining from talking about how silly and easy 14.1 is.

great post and your dad by the way is a pool legend and one of the greatest 14.1 players well any game for that matter ever.