What Does Brunswick Do For Pool?

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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Brunswick use to sponsor some players and tours. Do they do anything anymore to put something back? I don't mind paying a little more fore a billiard product that gives back to pool as long as its the same or better quality of the others that don't give back. Brunswicks prices are very high compared to Diamond, Olhausen, and a couple more quality billiards companies. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
Brunswick use to sponsor some players and tours. Do they do anything anymore to put something back? I don't mind paying a little more fore a billiard product that gives back to pool as long as its the same or better quality of the others that don't give back. Brunswicks prices are very high compared to Diamond, Olhausen, and a couple more quality billiards companies. Johnnyt
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Nothing anymore, it is kinda like the BCA. They were once organizations to be emmulated and they cast a shadow over everything they once stood for, in the end it is kinda sad!!!!!!!!!!:(
 
Thats what happens, Unions and all. People that sweep the floors in a hospital feel that they should be paid as much a Radiology Technician.
Radiology Techs feel they should be paid as much as a doctor.

What do you expect, people price them selves out of jobs. The jobs move over seas.
Its much better to get paid $20 an hour and be happy you have a job than to be unemployed and remember when you used to get paid $35 an hour. Now watch me get flamed.
 
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They sell tables, cues, make alot of money off the sport and put virtually nothing back into it.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
Thats what happens, Unions and all. People that sweep the floors in a hospital feel that they should be paid as much a Radiology Technician.
Radiology Techs feel they should be paid as much as a doctor.

What do you expect, people price them selves out of jobs. The jobs move over seas.
Its much better to get paid $20 an hour and be happy you have a job than to be unemployed and remember when you used to get paid $35 an hour. Now watch me get flamed.
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Only by liberals, of which I certainly am not. But you did hit the nail on the proverbial head.
 
Seriously Craig. I live in Saskatchewan, the minimum wage recently went to $9 an hour. At $9 an hour, you're considered to be living under the poverty level. There has to be at least 2 people living in a house hold both earning minimum. That barely pays rent or if you're very lucky, a modest mortgage.
There are no new cars in the driveway, and you can eat well, just not extravagantly. Pretty much impossible to make a go of it by yourself.
 
Brunswick makes a modest income by leasing out their name to people and organizations that don't realize Brunswick has very little to do with pool.
 
I have read all about Brunswick in books about Mosconi. They did have a number of players on the payroll. Held tournaments and exhibitions.
They did have it going good back then. Today it would be a big wow to see the same thing happening now !
At least they tried !


AND they were not the first of companies to ship production overseas. It has been a big trend for a long time. I grew up and seen the whole area I lived in suffer to the brink. All the jobs of the local leather industry have all gone abroad. The whole community thrived on 50 years ago.

I'm just sayin it happened all over. Not defending Brunswick of then or now but saying thats the way it went all over the counrty. :(
 
oldzilla said:
AND they were not the first of companies to ship production overseas. It has been a big trend for a long time. I grew up and seen the whole area I lived in suffer to the brink. All the jobs of the local leather industry have all gone abroad. The whole community thrived on 50 years ago.

I'm just sayin it happened all over. Not defending Brunswick of then or now but saying thats the way it went all over the counrty. :(
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They gave the country what it wanted. Like most of US manufacturers. Americans want CHEAP products so they can buy a lot more.
 
I hear ya but disagree

Blue Hog ridr said:
Thats what happens, Unions and all. People that sweep the floors in a hospital feel that they should be paid as much a Radiology Technician.
Radiology Techs feel they should be paid as much as a doctor.

What do you expect, people price them selves out of jobs. The jobs move over seas.
Its much better to get paid $20 an hour and be happy you have a job than to be unemployed and remember when you used to get paid $35 an hour. Now watch me get flamed.
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People did not move there jobs over seas the wonderful (govment) did. The taxes here kill business and the people
I was the union worker making $35 an hr now I would pay for a job making $20ph
Why hire me the american for $20 when you can get the slave/illeagle for $6 and no medical so we can all pay him/her for that also
GOD BLESS AMERICA
 
gerard soriano said:
People did not move there jobs over seas the wonderful (govment) did. The taxes here kill business and the people
I was the union worker making $35 an hr now I would pay for a job making $20ph
Why hire me the american for $20 when you can get the slave/illeagle for $6 and no medical so we can all pay him/her for that also
GOD BLESS AMERICA
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The Government didn't move your job overseas... your company did. For the very reason you mentioned. The problem is .... They give you and the union workers your jobs back....at 18 an hour. In 3 months, you will strike to get 22 an hour and get it. Then 6 months later you will strike again to get better dental and get it. 4 months later you will strike to get 28 an hour and get it as well. Now the company is back into the toilet because you have gotten everything you wanted and now think you have the company by the balls and do anything you want including 45 mins for lunch when it is suppose to be 30 and 16 bathroom and smoke breaks on top of your scheduled breaks during the day and Joe Schmoe CEO says screw this I'm broke ...let's make a deal with Malasia or Panama for the 6 an hour to the Slave/illegal! Noone is ever happy and the grass is always greener until it is gone .....

Not saying this is you persay.... but in general, Americans these days have become spoiled to a point. Some simply want more for less. It isn't like it used to be at all. Either it gets back to Hard Workers making the best products in America for a REASONABLE RATE that last or this will get worse.
 
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not to be a dick, but there are places where $6/hr is an awsome job, probably like the union jobs of old. My step Mom is from Indonesia and she tells me all about what $6 / hr could do for a family making $300 per YEAR!
 
Brunswick thread/anti union thread

More anti union rhetoric than brunwick helping pool! If it was not for unions nobody would get time and half over forty hours per week. There would be no labor relations board in your state for non union workers. No breaks at every two hours worked. Even with the corruption all through the history of unions they still accomplished more than any future generations will accomplish. Your fathers and grandfathers did all the footwork for any benefits you enjoy and possibly take for granted today. Don't disrespect them.
 
Soriano, I think I smell the stench of sarcasm written into your words, GOD
BLESS AMERICA." You said you would pay for a $20.00 an hour job. What you obviously can't comprehend is that we, and you in particular, are all paying for your former $35.00 an hour job.

"Look for the Union label," is written all over our current economic condition.

Our government may have a hand in that but don't ever think that America
hasn't been blessed. If you don't like America then do us all a favor an get
the EFF out.
 
I am an economist by education. You all bring up a lot of good points. Just left out

EPA standards
Child labor laws
Minimum wage laws
Tax exemptions and tax shelters
Transportation cost

Its a tidalwave of factors working against usa workers!

Then add technological innovations in the form of computers, robotics eating away at the demand for labor and the macro economic outlook is very bleek.

Technical legal research jobs are oversees now due to the internet eliminating the barriers to employment based on distance.

The increase in productivity is so strong the demand for labor is diminishing to a point where employment is becoming a thing of the past in so many industries!

Kid dynomite

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oldzilla said:
I have read all about Brunswick in books about Mosconi. They did have a number of players on the payroll. Held tournaments and exhibitions.
They did have it going good back then. Today it would be a big wow to see the same thing happening now !
At least they tried !
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Sure they sponsored a small number of top players. That's not exactly giving back to the people that feed them in a significant way, it's just a pittance of advertising budget going to a very select few. And tournament sponsorship? very little, if you put it in perspective of the size of the company. Hell, I am pretty sure the Jansco Brothers, who were basically nobodies in the middle of nowhere, put up more money than the Brunswick giant corporation did year-to-year. The problem with Brunswick, and much of the early BCA industry, seems to be that they really did not like pool players -- they liked people and institutions that bought their tables. That's a big difference. They needed a few faces of billiard expertise for their advertising of course, so Mosconi and a select few benefited, but I am interested in hearing details of exactly how much they EVER gave to the players in general, via tournament added money or any kind of widespread endorsements (not just Mosconi).

I just would like to compare that amount of $$ with what other more player friendly pool industries of the past and present give. I think you might find Brunswick won't look so good...
 
Gerry said:
not to be a dick, but there are places where $6/hr is an awsome job, probably like the union jobs of old. My step Mom is from Indonesia and she tells me all about what $6 / hr could do for a family making $300 per YEAR!
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thats apples and oranges.....i can compare the same wage in indonesia to that of Zimbabwe and it even more lop sided.....they have a 1,000,000,000 dollar bill, yes 1 billion dollar bill thats worth $300 american.

so my father used to make $10/hr 25years ago doing what I do that pays $20+/hr now......WHATS THE POINT?
 
1pocket said:
Sure they sponsored a small number of top players. That's not exactly giving back to the people that feed them in a significant way, it's just a pittance of advertising budget going to a very select few. And tournament sponsorship? very little, if you put it in perspective of the size of the company. Hell, I am pretty sure the Jansco Brothers, who were basically nobodies in the middle of nowhere, put up more money than the Brunswick giant corporation did year-to-year. The problem with Brunswick, and much of the early BCA industry, seems to be that they really did not like pool players -- they liked people and institutions that bought their tables. That's a big difference. They needed a few faces of billiard expertise for their advertising of course, so Mosconi and a select few benefited, but I am interested in hearing details of exactly how much they EVER gave to the players in general, via tournament added money or any kind of widespread endorsements (not just Mosconi).

I just would like to compare that amount of $$ with what other more player friendly pool industries of the past and present give. I think you might find Brunswick won't look so good...
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Look, are you an expert on things that happened 90 yrs ago or so ? !

I think not.

You're blowing off air that isn't so hot ! But if you want to knock Brunswick be my guest. So far you do not sound too smart.
 
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