I'm hoping that they will. :yeah:
Will Schon ever do sharp points again?
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No doubt that is a question for Mr. Clark, but to my surprise, when Blue Book photo time came around, he had several cues with sharp points. So I believe they do this on occasion even now. I don't expect their production models to include this any time soon though.
i doubt it. it's not cost effective
I was gonna say...I thought I remembered an SP series, ebony on ebony 4 pointer with red veneers, that had sharp points. And that was maybe last year.? I'll try and find a pic. It's no longer listed on their website.
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5,000. schons
Rundy makes a few cues yet- back in the day when Jim Mcdermott,and Rundy were partners, I figure it was Rundy doing the fronts and pts. Evan Clark has over 50 sharp pointed fronts- but they were made by another famous cue maker. So for 2,000. for the ffront, and 2,500. for the elite prices. He could make a new cue with the pointed fronts from the ole days. Cost would be 5,000. mark
Rundy makes a few cues yet- back in the day when Jim Mcdermott,and Rundy were partners, I figure it was Rundy doing the fronts and pts. Evan Clark has over 50 sharp pointed fronts- but they were made by another famous cue maker. So for 2,000. for the ffront, and 2,500. for the elite prices. He could make a new cue with the pointed fronts from the ole days. Cost would be 5,000. mark
When was Bob Runde and Jim Mcdermott partners? In what company? Schon originally was Terry Romine and Bob Runde. Don't remember ever hearing about Mcdermott and Runde working together on cues.
Points
Hope no one is offended, but good grief points should always be sharp or call them something else. Like rounded off dull points, and then claim they are the latest rage!! Buy my cue and get the new dull pointy looking things for no extra charge. Tell your CUSTOM cue maker you expect sharp points, ivory from elephants and wood from trees. And remind them they are working for you. You thought enough of them and their skills to hire them short term.
Hope no one is offended, but good grief points should always be sharp or call them something else. Like rounded off dull points, and then claim they are the latest rage!! Buy my cue and get the new dull pointy looking things for no extra charge. Tell your CUSTOM cue maker you expect sharp points, ivory from elephants and wood from trees. And remind them they are working for you. You thought enough of them and their skills to hire them short term.
Sharp points
That's fine deanoc. There are a lot more cues at much less costs that do make sharp points. Sometimes we speak with sarcasm do drive a point home! Don't take everything literally. I would never speak or write about any legendary cue maker disrespectfully. I called out no ones name. I would not hesitate to ask any cue maker if he would make a cue to my specs. If not, I would move on down the road.
That's fine deanoc. There are a lot more cues at much less costs that do make sharp points. Sometimes we speak with sarcasm do drive a point home! Don't take everything literally. I would never speak or write about any legendary cue maker disrespectfully. I called out no ones name. I would not hesitate to ask any cue maker if he would make a cue to my specs. If not, I would move on down the road.
i have no time for cues with CNC rounded points, I dont care who makes them-its the cheap/lazy/easy way out for the cue builder. I'll work harder to have more $$$ so I can pay the cue builder more$$$ for his time for sharp even points. My friend who I play the most has a Stroud he bought new in 74, it has razor sharp points.
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But here is the thing, you can mill out a flat bottom pocket with rounded points, and chisel cut the point to a sharp angle. Then fit in a sharp point inlay. You can even do it several times and have recut seamless veneers.
The points dont mean anything anymore. The bulk of the playability of a cue is in the shaft, the rest is just decoration. Short spliced points never really did anything for the cue other than mimic the full splices that were "traditional". Well, the full spliced cues were so made to add weight/balance and warp resistance to one piece cues. Nothing more. But today, everbody has a hard on for them because they think it makes the cue better. IMO, all it does it add work to the cuemaker, and a higher price tag to the buyer.
But like everyone knows, if its more expensive, it has to be better.....
Chuck
I have a new schon, I believe it was made in '09, The points are like the sp pics in the previous post. As near as I can tell, The contrasting veneer is a mitered inlay. The inner points are a result of the milling of the pocket for the veneers. anywho, the points are sharp and even, and the cue is very pretty and plays like a dream. All types of construction, full splice - short splice - inlayed, are fine methods and the cues are good. It is cool how splices are made though.
But here is the thing, you can mill out a flat bottom pocket with rounded points, and chisel cut the point to a sharp angle. Then fit in a sharp point inlay. You can even do it several times and have recut seamless veneers.
The points dont mean anything anymore. The bulk of the playability of a cue is in the shaft, the rest is just decoration. Short spliced points never really did anything for the cue other than mimic the full splices that were "traditional". Well, the full spliced cues were so made to add weight/balance and warp resistance to one piece cues. Nothing more. But today, everbody has a hard on for them because they think it makes the cue better. IMO, all it does it add work to the cuemaker, and a higher price tag to the buyer.
But like everyone knows, if its more expensive, it has to be better.....
Chuck
so points didn't mean anything back then? The shaft wasn't the bulk of playability back then? You say its your opinion, and your exactly right. Full splice is stronger FACT. PERIOD. HANDS DOWN strongest construction method used in cues. Short splices stiffen up the forearm just as a full splice does, their only diff is strength at the "A" joint.....there is no A joint in a FS.
Inlays are about cost......construction techniques are about construction techniques
rolling my eyes back at you chuck...........
-Grey Ghost-
I don't want to start a war here on imports.
You can get sharp points on $100 chinese made cues so why not on expensive Schons? I know there is a vast difference in labor costs but when I see a Schon that costs a $1000 or more and has rounded points it just doesnt seem right.
You can get sharp points on $100 chinese made cues so why not on expensive Schons? I know there is a vast difference in labor costs but when I see a Schon that costs a $1000 or more and has rounded points it just doesnt seem right.
Points
Riverman chuck. Let me see if I am hearing you right. Sharp points add more work for the cue maker who is compensated financially for the extra work, and that's a problem. Lots of things don't add to the playability of a cue, so any embellishment is just crapola? If a cue maker won't make sharp points, butterfly cues, full splice or whatever, no problem. That's their deal. I could care less what they won't do. But I am the customer and I determine what I want, and if that's a problem then we part ways, no hard feelings.
Riverman chuck. Let me see if I am hearing you right. Sharp points add more work for the cue maker who is compensated financially for the extra work, and that's a problem. Lots of things don't add to the playability of a cue, so any embellishment is just crapola? If a cue maker won't make sharp points, butterfly cues, full splice or whatever, no problem. That's their deal. I could care less what they won't do. But I am the customer and I determine what I want, and if that's a problem then we part ways, no hard feelings.