12th US Open One Pocket Championship - Who should be invited?

One issue.....

JoeyA said:
Filling the field with 32 players would be like predicting it will be hot next summer in Las Vegas, ESPECIALLY with $10,000.00 ADDED MONEY.
This is a quick list of at least 32 mentionables.

Alex Pagulayan
Billy Incardona
Brandon Shuff
Buddy Hall
Charlie WilliamsChris Bartam
Cliff Joyner
Corey DeuelDanny Harriman
Darren AppletonDonnie Mills
Earl Strickland
Efren ReyesFrancisco BustamanteGabe Owen
Glenn Rogers
Grady Mathews
Ike Runnels
Jeremy Jones
John Schmidt
Johnny ArcherJose Parica
JR Gay
Landon Shuffett
Larry Nevel
Max Eberle
Mika ImmonemMike DechaineMike Davis
Mike Sigel
Niels FeijenNick Varner
"Ozzieman" DominguezRichie Richeson
Ronnie Wiseman
Scott Frost
Shane Van BoeningShannon Daulton
Shawn Putnam
Sylver Ochoa
Stevie Moore.
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This is a good list you put together Joey.... Unfortunately if the schedule stays the same, The players I have highlighted in RED will most likely be playing in the World 10 Ball Championships in Manila which is currently set for May 9-15 2011....

This is terrible because The team at CSI work so hard to improve pool for everybody.

Here's to this being a great event no matter what though.
 
US Open One Pocket

Lou, we did it 4 times - twice at Plaza, twice in Louisville.

I agree the event will build as it becomes known as an annual event. That is the plan.

We originally were going to go to 4 on winners and losers side. But if we get over 32 players we have to go to 3 on the loser side. We gave 4 hours for a race to 4 match.

This is all in trying to get it done in a weekend. If we get towards the 48 players, we will have to have the last couple of matches on Monday.

We will not 'chase' a bunch of players down, but we owe them the courtesy of contacting them and giving the top players an opportuinty to play. We will have all of the ground rules up by early January. In the meantime, we thought it would be nice to get the AZ community (and One Pocket.org) a chance to suggest who whould be good matches. One Pocket does not have any real ranking system and this will just help us avoid missing a deserving player.

We will address the 'waiting list' and similar things in early January.

This year we cannot handle more than 8 tables. We also reduced the the 10-Ball field to 96 players (last year filled a 128 field). We think we might be able to address this better in the future. But we gotta start somewhere.

I originally wanted to have a $500 entry - but honestly thought it would stop a lot of mid-speed players from playing.

I appreciate all the comments. As long as constructive, they will be taken to heart.

Also, one last thing. The criteria mentioned are 'subject to change'. That is why I do want the comments.

Mark Griffin
 
US Open One Pocket

Neil said: Now, I don't want to come across as being negative, just want to point out a few things. You say you don't have the time or tables for a bigger tournament. Well, frankly, then you don't have the capacity at the moment to put on a U.S. Open event.

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Neil - I appreciate your comments. More than half of the previous One Pocket events we did - did not get to the 48 player level.

So - from past history, it is not practical to hope for a larger field - because it might not materialize.

This is the US Open One Pocket. If the demand is there, we can make it grow over the next couple of years.

Mark Griffin
 
JoeyA said:
Filling the field with 32 players would be like predicting it will be hot next summer in Las Vegas, ESPECIALLY with $10,000.00 ADDED MONEY.
This is a quick list of at least 32 mentionables.

Alex Pagulayan
Billy Incardona
Brandon Shuff
Buddy Hall
Charlie Williams
Chris Bartam
Cliff Joyner
Corey Deuel
Danny Harriman
Darren Appleton
Donnie Mills
Earl Strickland
Efren Reyes
Francisco Bustamante
Gabe Owen
Glenn Rogers
Grady Mathews
Ike Runnels
Jeremy Jones
John Schmidt
Johnny Archer
Jose Parica
JR Gay
Landon Shuffett
Larry Nevel
Max Eberle
Mika Immonem
Mike Dechaine
Mike Davis
Mike Sigel
Niels Feijen
Nick Varner
"Ozzieman" Dominguez
Richie Richeson
Ronnie Wiseman
Scott Frost
Shane Van Boening
Shannon Daulton
Shawn Putnam
Sylver Ochoa
Stevie Moore
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I don't believe Donny Mills plays one pocket, does he?
 
meximan2469 said:
This is a good list you put together Joey.... Unfortunately if the schedule stays the same, The players I have highlighted in RED will most likely be playing in the World 10 Ball Championships in Manila which is currently set for May 9-15 2011....

This is terrible because The team at CSI work so hard to improve pool for everybody.

Here's to this being a great event no matter what though.
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That date on the WPA calendar is nowhere near official. Notice it is 'white' - whereas the confirmed events are in 'yellow'. Those are possible dates for another Raya Sports event. I have been told that that odds of that occuring are slim - and those dates are very subject to change. (Shame on the WPA for putting up possible dates - it only confuses everyone).

Mark Griffin
 
rossaroni said:
Good list there. Just off the top of my head, there are a few others who came to mind. Nick Vita(he won before) and Billy Palmer(one of a very few that has beat Efren at DCC). Of course there are probably a few that I am missing also.
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Those are excellent choices that often get overlooked. Another is John Hager who has been in the finals of the Derby City One Pocket.
 
Thanks for clearing that up Mark. I really hope for a conflict free schedule next year, for the betterment of everybody.....
 
US Open One Pocket

Here are the past winners of US Open One Pocket. (List is missing one year.)


OFFICIAL RULES OF THE BCA POOL LEAGUE
U.S. OPEN ONE POCKET CHAMPIONSHIP
Champion Runner-Up
2007 Tony Chohan Gabe Owen
2006 Nick Vita Shawn Putnam
2005 Scott Frost Gabe Owen
2004 Cliff Joyner Shannon Daulton
2000 Efren Reyes Larry Nevel
1999 Cliff Joyner Larry Nevel
1998 Jeremy Jones Jeff Carter
1997 Leil Gay Jayme Goodwin
1996 Jayme Goodwin Jose Parica
1994 Cliff Joyner Bill Incardona
No event in 1995, 2001-2003


Mark Griffin

PS: Prior to 2004, held in Kalamazoo by Matt Rosendahl
From 2004 on - held by CSI/BCAPL
 
If you're basing invites on just one-pocket prowess and achievements I would say the following should be considered:

1. Efren Reyes
2. Larry Nevel
3. Shannon Daulton
4. Cliff Joyner
5. Scott Frost
6. Corey Deuel
7. Nick Varner
8. Syler Ochoa
9. Gabe Owen
10. Jose Parica
 
List of invitees...

  1. Jack Cooney
  2. Tony Flaherty
  3. Richard Grenier
  4. Efren Reyes
  5. Shannon Daulton
  6. Nick Varner
  7. Buddy Hall
  8. Jose Parica
  9. Ken Hoshide
  10. Tang Hoa
  11. Shawn Putnam
  12. Gabe Owen
  13. John Schmidt
  14. Danny Harriman
  15. Scott Frost
  16. Alex Pagulayan
  17. Jerry Matchin
  18. Frank Almanza
  19. Sylver Ochoa
  20. Bill Incardona
  21. Billy Palmer
  22. Rafael Martinez
  23. Jeremy Jones
  24. Grady Matthews
  25. Ronnie Allen
  26. Cliff Joyner
  27. Jimmy Fusco
  28. Marvin Henderson
  29. Allen Hopkins
  30. Francisco Bustamante
  31. Mike Sigel
  32. Corey Deuel
 
CrownCityCorey said:
  1. Jack Cooney
  2. Tony Flaherty
  3. Richard Grenier
  4. Efren Reyes
  5. Shannon Daulton
  6. Nick Varner
  7. Buddy Hall
  8. Jose Parica
  9. Ken Hoshide
  10. Tang Hoa
  11. Shawn Putnam
  12. Gabe Owen
  13. John Schmidt
  14. Danny Harriman
  15. Scott Frost
  16. Alex Pagulayan
  17. Jerry Matchin
  18. Frank Almanza
  19. Sylver Ochoa
  20. Bill Incardona
  21. Billy Palmer
  22. Rafael Martinez
  23. Jeremy Jones
  24. Grady Matthews
  25. Ronnie Allen
  26. Cliff Joyner
  27. Jimmy Fusco
  28. Marvin Henderson
  29. Allen Hopkins
  30. Francisco Bustamante
  31. Mike Sigel
  32. Corey Deuel
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Marvin Henderson? What are you smoking?
About half of your list has no chance of playing. Toby? Cooney? Fusco? Tang? Buddy? Ken Hoshide? The Barber? C'mon Corey, this is 2010, not 2000!
P.S. You forgot Underdog! Shame on you. :smile:
 
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Imo, if you're hoping to get as many of the top guns as possible, you might aswell make the entryfee higher than 200 $.

If it's gonna be the 32 that Joey listed, they will play for $400 too.

Mark Griffin said:
Lou, we did it 4 times - twice at Plaza, twice in Louisville.

I agree the event will build as it becomes known as an annual event. That is the plan.

We originally were going to go to 4 on winners and losers side. But if we get over 32 players we have to go to 3 on the loser side. We gave 4 hours for a race to 4 match.

This is all in trying to get it done in a weekend. If we get towards the 48 players, we will have to have the last couple of matches on Monday.

We will not 'chase' a bunch of players down, but we owe them the courtesy of contacting them and giving the top players an opportuinty to play. We will have all of the ground rules up by early January. In the meantime, we thought it would be nice to get the AZ community (and One Pocket.org) a chance to suggest who whould be good matches. One Pocket does not have any real ranking system and this will just help us avoid missing a deserving player.

We will address the 'waiting list' and similar things in early January.

This year we cannot handle more than 8 tables. We also reduced the the 10-Ball field to 96 players (last year filled a 128 field). We think we might be able to address this better in the future. But we gotta start somewhere.

I originally wanted to have a $500 entry - but honestly thought it would stop a lot of mid-speed players from playing.

I appreciate all the comments. As long as constructive, they will be taken to heart.

Also, one last thing. The criteria mentioned are 'subject to change'. That is why I do want the comments.

Mark Griffin
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Mark Griffin said:
Neil said: Now, I don't want to come across as being negative, just want to point out a few things. You say you don't have the time or tables for a bigger tournament. Well, frankly, then you don't have the capacity at the moment to put on a U.S. Open event.

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Neil - I appreciate your comments. More than half of the previous One Pocket events we did - did not get to the 48 player level.

So - from past history, it is not practical to hope for a larger field - because it might not materialize.

This is the US Open One Pocket. If the demand is there, we can make it grow over the next couple of years.

Mark Griffin
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Mark,
The half of the previous one pocket events you did that did not get the 48 player level, DID YOU ADD $10,000 for those events?

Thanks,
JoeyA
 
cleary said:
I don't believe Donny Mills plays one pocket, does he?
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You're probably right.

rossaroni said:
Good list there. Just off the top of my head, there are a few others who came to mind. Nick Vita(he won before) and Billy Palmer(one of a very few that has beat Efren at DCC). Of course there are probably a few that I am missing also.
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Nick, I know and he should definitely be on the list. MY bad. Billy Palmer... I've heard nothing but good things about his game.

Gerry said:
Put Allen Hopkins on the list IMO. Still playing world class pool everyday!
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Sure. He's a great player and what a contributor to pool. MY bad...

Richardson said:
Scott Frost
Silver Ochoa
Efren Reyes
Rapheal Martinez
Gabe Owen
Corey Deuel
Jeremy Jones

Yeah, I forgot about Raphael Martinez. Been around a long time, and plays GREAT one pocket.
I am sure i spelled someones name wrong, sorry for that. Thats a good starting list for you though :)
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Roy Steffensen said:
Imo, if you're hoping to get as many of the top guns as possible, you might aswell make the entryfee higher than 200 $.

If it's gonna be the 32 that Joey listed, they will play for $400 too.
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I knew this tournament would capture your interest. Bring some dough and you, me and GingerBread Man will get it on. :smile:
 
JoeyA said:
Mark,
The half of the previous one pocket events you did that did not get the 48 player level, DID YOU ADD $10,000 for those events?

Thanks,
JoeyA
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Hey JoeyA-
Thanks for all your interest. The first event we did had $5,000 added (limited to 32) - don't remember the 2nd one.

2006 (Louisville) was $10,000 basedon 64 - we got 54 or so at $200 entry. Also did a bank event - in the middle of bank country!

Gulfport Doc was there.

This event will probably fill up - but I don't think it would if 64 and we could not fit in 64 the first year of the return. We have a few 'tricks for next year if this one turns out good.

In fact - I got something that everyone will really like but cannot confirm it for several more months.

Anyway - thanks everyone for your input.

Mark Griffin
 
lfigueroa said:
Sunny, I would guess that for the "US Open" you could easily fill a 32 man field with well deserving invitees. I know there are table and time constraints, but if there's going to be any "Open" part to the event, you'd almost *have* to go to at least a 48 person field. Even then you'd probably have a waiting list. You are advertising this event well enough in advance that people can plan, so you're going to get a good response, IMO.

Lou Figueroa
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Yeah, if I were allowed to play in this tournament I would want as much advanced notice as possible to give.

This kind of reminds me of the old Kalamazoo U.S. open ONe Pocket Championship, just with more added money. :thumbup:

I suggest giving the invitees a FIRM response time requirement and then after that open the door wide open to others on a first come first serve basis, that is (except all AZ Billiards posters should have first dibs on available spots) :D
 
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