Gina cue for sale or best offer!!

What a coincidence you and Roys joined the same date and have the same number of posts and you seem to be having a monologue with each other pimping this Gina.

This is not the way to get started on AZ Billiards!

Kevin, what is your best guess on the value of a four point Gina? Like $1800 including the whitten.

Does that look like an Ernie wrap to you? It doesn't to me.

Chris

Ps. sorry guys, I accidentally green repped Jim. Please throw some red bombs for me.

Chris

Look like the cue in Ernie's hands (wait !!!!!! is that really Ernie???) has a Hoppe ring (which is a little upcharge I think) and maybe an elephant wrap ? - also an upcharge) but then in the pic with the Nitti is seems to have lost the elephant for a standard leather wrap with seems to have been supplied and applied by someone other than Ernie?. Lots of changes for the cue to have gone through in such a short time. I'd have to say the loss of the wrap and the only one shaft are pretty good size deducts. The cue (wherever it is) would be a 5 pointer I think. Speaking of changes, I'd be interested to know how Ernie changed the weight of this cue. Did he take the non-existent weight bolt out and replace it with a lighter non existent bolt or did he use a different method?

Looks like Jim made himself a deal so there we go.

On to the next.

Kevin

PS: On a related matter. I was over at Russ's house last night clipping him for the World Heavyweight Championship Nine Ball Belt (I've attached a pic of the Sunland-Tujunga Watermelon Festival Queen carting the Belt back to its rightful home) and I saw his Brooklyn Bridge, and not only does it hit a ton, it is completely zero deflection (which is more than I can say for the Queen).

thebelt.jpg
 
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You AZers are tough and I warned him last night at league what to expect from the AZ community, he posted this before I had a chance to help him sell his Gina , I personally know Roy. He shoots in the same room as I. Everything Roy has posted is the truth. The cue has the original wrap, but due to the way he holds his cue it looks like it has been changed. I told him last night he needs to have Ernie replace the wrap or disclose the issues the wrap. The wrap has not been changed to my knowledge.

Ernie did change the weight for him, I remembered when he did it. Not anyone can just change a Gina weight, there is a special process to do it. He even told Roy that" You saw one of my secrets", dont tell anyone.

I noticed Roy is banned and I can see why but the Gina is legit and I vouch for Roy. He is a great friend of mine. The Chris nitti in the photos is my cue by the way. Just got it last week.

I also told Roy that if he wants to sell it on AZ, be willing to use an escrow service. He will be at my Tournament tonight and I will take good detailed pics of the cue.

Roy didnt know until it was too late about trying to sell a higher end cue with so little posts.

Any questions you would like to ask me, feel free. I have made many friends on here and I personally apologize for Roy. He's a newbie.
 
I don't believe anything Roy posted got him banned. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was perhaps due to him making shill aliases that bought down the hammer. If that was the case, the AZ community had every right to be tough on him.

He would have had no problem selling that Gina if he posted solid info, a fair price, and agreed to use escrow. There was no need for the shill posts... these guys know the value of lower end Ginas around here.
 
I invited Roy to join up with AZB last week. After he told me about what he posted I knew before I even read his post what the outcome would be. LOL
 
I don't believe anything Roy posted got him banned. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was perhaps due to him making shill aliases that bought down the hammer. If that was the case, the AZ community had every right to be tough on him.

He would have had no problem selling that Gina if he posted solid info, a fair price, and agreed to use escrow. There was no need for the shill posts... these guys know the value of lower end Ginas around here.

I totally agree with you, Rookie tactics dont work here!!!!!!!!

Anyways this Gina is legit, I guarantee it!!!!! I might sell it for him and use any legitimate service any interested customer wants to use.
 
You AZers are tough and I warned him last night at league what to expect from the AZ community, he posted this before I had a chance to help him sell his Gina , I personally know Roy. He shoots in the same room as I. Everything Roy has posted is the truth. The cue has the original wrap, but due to the way he holds his cue it looks like it has been changed. I told him last night he needs to have Ernie replace the wrap or disclose the issues the wrap. The wrap has not been changed to my knowledge.

Ernie did change the weight for him, I remembered when he did it. Not anyone can just change a Gina weight, there is a special process to do it. He even told Roy that" You saw one of my secrets", dont tell anyone.

I noticed Roy is banned and I can see why but the Gina is legit and I vouch for Roy. He is a great friend of mine. The Chris nitti in the photos is my cue by the way. Just got it last week.

I also told Roy that if he wants to sell it on AZ, be willing to use an escrow service. He will be at my Tournament tonight and I will take good detailed pics of the cue.

Roy didnt know until it was too late about trying to sell a higher end cue with so little posts.

Any questions you would like to ask me, feel free. I have made many friends on here and I personally apologize for Roy. He's a newbie.

Travis

Why doesn't your friend just sell the cue to Jim Stevens that joined the same day for somewhere between $2500 and $4000 ? I'll be glad to escrow it. I must admit, I was a little confused right from the start and I'm still confused. Are you saying that the cue is legit (though misrepresented as far as the wrap goes) but your friend isn't? Who is Jim Stevens ? Why does your friend need you to sell the cue for him, this Jim guy seems to like the cue and seems REAL flexible on price.

Thanks again

Kevin
 
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Kevin, I think we pretty much know that Jim Stevens doesnt exist, lol. He tried the rookie tactic and was called out on it. What i dont know if he created it or did he have a family member or another friend do it. Anyways its shill selling and its frowned upon and I apoligize for him.
 
Kevin, I think we pretty much know that Jim Stevens doesnt exist, lol. He tried the rookie tactic and was called out on it. What i dont know if he created it or did he have a family member or another friend do it. Anyways its shill selling and its frowned upon and I apoligize for him.

Travis

I don't get that its a "rookie tactic". People that don't know the rules make rookie mistakes, but I think everybody really is supposed to know that cheating and lying for your own benefit is against the rules of life as well as a community forum.

What bothers me here is your friend decided that in order to increase the value of his business of selling his cue, misrepresent the business of Ernie Gutierrez. Granted, Ernie has been saying that one day he will retire and sell his equipment for years, but the fact is, he hasn't yet and won't be anytime soon. If one person read that and decided he couldn't order the Gina he was going to from Ernie, then Ernie is damaged. In case it was an honest mistake, I posted the facts that Ernie is currently in his shop and taking orders and your friend decided to persist. Sorry but that sucks. That's more than a rookie mistake. That's being willing to harm another for the (possible) betterment of yourself. That sucks and I'm glad to see him gone.

Thanks

Kevin
 
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Given the "rookie mistakes" that Roy made in trying to sell his cue here, I wouldn't do biz with him if he wanted to sell it for $600. :angry:

He should feel very lucky that Ernie is so busy making magnificent cues that he's likely too short on time to seek legal action again him.

Travis, it surprises me that you would be comfortable helping Roy with his sale, after what he attempted.

Best,
Brian kc
 
Yep

Given the "rookie mistakes" that Roy made in trying to sell his cue here, I wouldn't do biz with him if he wanted to sell it for $600. :angry:

He should feel very lucky that Ernie is so busy making magnificent cues that he's likely too short on time to seek legal action again him.

Travis, it surprises me that you would be comfortable helping Roy with his sale, after what he attempted.

Best,
Brian kc

What He Said! Again WHAT A JOKE, I wouldn't touch this cue, I think he bought it under one of his 3 names already! Ron
 
Chris

PS: On a related matter. I was over at Russ's house last night clipping him for the World Heavyweight Championship Nine Ball Belt (I've attached a pic of the Sunland-Tujunga Watermelon Festival Queen carting the Belt back to its rightful home) and I saw his Brooklyn Bridge, and not only does it hit a ton, it is completely zero deflection (which is more than I can say for the Queen).

thebelt.jpg

Yawwwwwwnnnnnnnn... She just left my house after a Loooong night of, well, you know!! :)

She asked me if I wanted her to bring the belt back up, but I told her that you have it so infrequently that you should keep it and enjoy it for a little while.

You played real good and deserve the belt budy!!!

I gotta go polish my bridge :)
 
Travis...cool of you to step up and try to help a friend out, but Roy lost the most important thing that (IMO) an AZBer can have with his first posting. He lost his credibility. I don't think he would be able to sell anything on here, ever. I know that I could never trust him. Really sad...

Joe
 
Yawwwwwwnnnnnnnn... She just left my house after a Loooong night of, well, you know!! :)

She asked me if I wanted her to bring the belt back up, but I told her that you have it so infrequently that you should keep it and enjoy it for a little while.

You played real good and deserve the belt budy!!!

I gotta go polish my bridge :)

The Sunland Tujunga Watermelon Festival Queen is high swerve high deflection.

I wore you down.
 
Travis...cool of you to step up and try to help a friend out, but Roy lost the most important thing that (IMO) an AZBer can have with his first posting. He lost his credibility. I don't think he would be able to sell anything on here, ever. I know that I could never trust him. Really sad...

Joe

I agree. This very clever fake out :cool: was one of the lamest things I have seen on here.
 
The Sunland Tujunga Watermelon Festival Queen is high swerve high deflection.

I wore you down.

Since this thread and Roy are dead here now, we can clutter up his thread with all kinds of useless shit!! :)

The STWFQ is pretty curvy and moist!!!

See you next week bro...
 
Since this thread and Roy are dead here now, we can clutter up his thread with all kinds of useless shit!! :)

The STWFQ is pretty curvy and moist!!!

See you next week bro...

Please this turd was dead as soon as he retired Ernie to pump his cue.

Have a great week-end and don't forget the Sunland Tujunga Easter Fair. It ought to be WILD!!!!!
 
Hello to AZB. I am to being an Nigerian prince with $80,000,000 in US funds that I cannot access in American bank...:D
 
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