Is it really necessary???

I like the thought of locking thread so it can't be bumped. That way the new stuff is new. If you want a specific item the the search function would be recommended. And nice case. John
 
Tiddler said:
How about the political trash that is spewing forth in greater and greater numbers? Hitting new this morning brought up 4-5 LWW posts and others. I almost had to hit the second page to find 'Wanted for sale'. Couldn't the mods make political posts less obnoxious and prevalent?
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Case

It is the correct post type in the correct section and there are items for sale.

The worst is that friggin cocobolo cowboy, with his incessant copy/paste of the day's news.
 
I have no problem with the one bump per day idea but maybe also include only bumping one thread per day. That would eliminate the issue that the OP brought up. Even one bump in a 12 hr period would be fine.

Also other than the words "I'll take it" eliminate people from replying to threads other than with PM's. If there is a question that comes up about a certain item (say a cues weight is forgotten) then the OP of the thread can edit rather than include it in a new reply.

As far as the "All PM's Replied" bumps, they are b.s. You don't need to tell me you responded. There is a box in the top right hand corner of the screen that tells me for you, and trust me......if I'm serious about buying what your selling I'm watching that box not your thread.

Lastly, it should be mandatory to POST A PRICE. I don't want to guess, don't want to play like this is eBay, and don't want to visit another site. I'm here to see what's for sale (with a price) and that's it. If your consistently listing items that I am interested in buying on your site, then I will visit it.

Green rep to the OP for bringing this up in a very tasteful manner and good luck with the George. It's very nice!
 
How many threads can one person run at the same time?

I haven't been paying enough attention, but after reading this thread I scanned through the first 5 or 6 pages and there are 3 or 4 posters loading up the forum with their posts. Some of them are really taking advantage of this free forum and they don't have much consideration for the rest of us!

James
 
Great post.

Worminator said:
It seems to me the Wanted/For Sale section here at AZB has gotten out of hand. I frequent another forum (non-billiard related) that had the same issues that are taking place here. They implemented some rules (posted below) that have greatly improved their for sale section.

Again, these are just suggestions that have greatly improved a similar section in another forum. It is obviously up to the mods here to make changes or leave things the way they are.

1. You must have 75 posts to create a new Ad in the Wanted/For Sale Forum or become an AZ Club Member.
2. Must have a sale price. Sellers must combine their Ads and cannot post new Ads unless their previous Ad is Closed or deleted. All For Sale Items must be combined/listed in One Ad.
3. Must have Photos. Small or blurry images in your Ad may cause it to be removed without warning.
4. All WTB posts are locked. Replies should be sent by PM or Email.
5. Members must close your own AD once the item(s) is sold, traded or no longer available.
6. Bumping Rules:

* Posts are sorted by Date of Topic Creation… additional posts will not bump thread to the top
* Sellers must combine their Ads and cannot post new Ads unless their previous Ad is Closed or deleted.
* Repeated improper Re-posting of Ads can warrant suspension of forum rights.​

7. No negative comments regarding sellers asking prices.
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These are some great ideas and maybe Mr. Wilson will consider them.

James
 
I personally have 5 threads going with for sale items, they are not the same items and are different things that I do not think I can put all in one thread. I do bump them once a day all at once, perhaps if I have the time then bumping them individually one at a time every hour or so might be better. :cool:
 
Bumps should be limited to once per 6 hours.
Questions should be discussed via PM.
Each user should have ONE for sale thread, and ONE want to buy thread.
Pictures should be REQUIRED, plenty of people here can help teach how to post pictures.
 
bencho said:
Bumps should be limited to once per 6 hours.
Questions should be discussed via PM.
Each user should have ONE for sale thread, and ONE want to buy thread.
Pictures should be REQUIRED, plenty of people here can help teach how to post pictures.
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I do not think one for sale thread would work, I do think you should try and put stuff together in one thread when they go together. If you have a few cues for sale, or cases, DVDs or books and you put them all in one thread its just too much there in one thread for people looking at stuff but they might be there looking at something else and buy something they had not planned on either. I am going to try and consolidate some of my threads, I think I can get them down from 5 to 3. :grin:
 
As a Buyer, Seller and Supporter of AZBilliards, I am all for mandatory Club Memberships in the Wanted for Sale section (Sellers especially) as well as reasonable Listing/Bumping Fees.
 
HereWeGo said:
As a Buyer, Seller and Supporter of AZBilliards, I am all for mandatory Club Memberships in the Wanted for Sale section (Sellers especially) as well as reasonable Listing/Bumping Fees.
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I agree on this, I think you should have to be a Club Member to SELL in here, it would be good for AZB and also another idea would be to have subforums in Wanted/For Sale, have a Cue section by Seller and Dealer Section, Case Section, DVDs/Books, Accessories, Wanted, etc.. If possible be able to break it down by price just like you can on Craigslist or Ebay, would be helpful in searching for something when you got an extra $50 or $100 laying around and you want to pick something up.
 
I don't think that the "Wanted/For Sale" thread is broken, by any means. Most of the time, it works just fine.

The big issue is for ALL OF US (me included) to exhibit a little courtesy and forum etiquette when we post/bump items.

A lot of the suggestions that have been posted are good ones, but they require a lot of work by the moderators, etc to set up and monitor. All in all, I think we, as posters/members, do a pretty good job of monitoring the things that go wrong (as in this instance). Now, it is up to the original poster, and all of us who post in the future, to remember what was said in this thread, and how others feel, and to take those feelings into account next time we post something.

We should ALL be Club Members....our dues can add up to help maintain equipment, etc. It also is a show of our support for the site.

If not, then we can yell, "Oh, Mr. Wilson!!...if you remember that, then you about as old as I am.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPg46G-Z9_o

Joe
 
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There certainly can be a lot of debate on how to improve the forum... but one rule I feel very strongly about would be that you must be a Club Member to post in Wanted/For Sale section. That is a very common requirement on larger golf, knives, etc forums.
 
Yeah I don't think its broken and I do think what is lacking in general at AZ is a little common courtesy. I think it ages us too complain too much and harken back to the old days when we had perhaps more community minded spirit, but there is quite a bit of rudeness in all the forums and it does seem to be a trend in the wrong direction. Perhaps that is the price we pay for becoming more popular and less niche.

I don't think its up to the mods to create a rude-proof environment and I don't think its possible and I don't think coming up with blanket rules to curb the behavior of one or two people is the answer. If we are unhappy with Acedonkeyace's (sorry I don't see the point of not naming him?) behavior in the threads isn't up to us as a community ro PM him and give him a chance to be less rude (like Bamacues did) rather than trying to come up with some rules? There's a distinct possibility that he doesn't see his 8 zillion threads about production cues as bothersome and maybe a few of his fellow forum members dropping him a line is all it will take.

Thanks

Kevin

PS: Nice case
 
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Competent, respectful posters/sellers add value to this site. Being a

club member should not be required, even though is a honorable action

taken by some to support the site. Some people only sell something on

here every once in a while. I worked at a country club for years

and cannot stand the pretentious aura that accompanies exclusive

institutions. It makes me think of that south park episode where the smug

from hybrid-driving elitists who like the smell of their own farts combine

with the smug from George Clooney's acceptance speech to create the

perfect storm of self-satisfaction.
 
kvinbrwr said:
Yeah I don't think its broken and I do think what is lacking in general at AZ is a little common courtesy. I think it ages us too complain too much and harken back to the old days when we had perhaps more community minded spirit, but there is quite a bit of rudeness in all the forums and it does seem to be a trend in the wrong direction. Perhaps that is the price we pay for becoming more popular and less niche.

I don't think its up to the mods to create a rude-proof environment and I don't think its possible and I don't think coming up with blanket rules to curb the behavior of one or two people is the answer. If we are unhappy with Acedonkeyace's (sorry I don't see the point of not naming him?) behavior in the threads isn't up to us as a community ro PM him and give him a chance to be less rude (like Bamacues did) rather than trying to come up with some rules? There's a distinct possibility that he doesn't see his 8 zillion threads about production cues as bothersome and maybe a few of his fellow forum members dropping him a line is all it will take.

Thanks

Kevin

PS: Nice case
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Hopefully when he sees everyone is getting a little frustrated he will change up his procedure. But not sure, since his earlier reply didn't seem too concerned with fellow posters.

I sent this to Ace on October 4th.

Man...can u copy and paste all your threads onto one post and just bump that one? You knock everyone down a page everytime you bump all these threads....

Thanks!

his reply was....

This is how the board is set-up, its not my fault.
Talk to the designer.

Mike

I agree the board isn't broken, and we just need to be aware of how we effect everyone else as we try to sell our special pool items for way below market value! ;)
 
jemerson23 said:
Hopefully when he sees everyone is getting a little frustrated he will change up his procedure. But not sure, since his earlier reply didn't seem too concerned with fellow posters.

I sent this to Ace on October 4th.

Man...can u copy and paste all your threads onto one post and just bump that one? You knock everyone down a page everytime you bump all these threads....

Thanks!

his reply was....

This is how the board is set-up, its not my fault.
Talk to the designer.

Mike

I agree the board isn't broken, and we just need to be aware of how we effect everyone else as we try to sell our special pool items for way below market value! ;)
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Yikes, that response is a little scary, but (looking on the bright side) maybe he was just knee-jerk and defensive and yours and others messages will help him adjust to a method that others find less distasteful.

I'm not sure that one thread is the answer (I'm also not sure that it isn't). Fastandloose I think will start a new thread for each item he is offering (as do I) and when he bumps them all it can be a bit disruptive to the forum, but it looks like he only bumps them once every two weeks or even less. I really think its a matter of trying to find a selling method that isn't rude, Marcus has, I try to. Again, I think its a matter of trying to be a decent member of the community. Your sharing of acedonkeyace's response is disheartening.

Thanks

Kevin
 
I had also commented earlier on one batch of ace's posts. I had found it confusing to see 5 posts with all photos, then look for another post that had the prices, then look back to make sure I was on the right cue.

Other forums I belong to are significantly stricter with WTF/FS threads and some specific rules help manage things pretty well.

As for my earlier statement, I guess 1 FS thread per user is a little difficult due to the nature of products sold here.

One suggestion, if there are plans to revise and improve the FS area, is to make sub-sections under the main FS; such as Cues, Cases, Misc Items, etc. Might be a little extra work for those looking to sell bundles of both cases and cues though.

I've also seen other ideas like having a specific selectable designation in the title field that says "For Sale" or "For Trade" or "Looking For" and they are color coded to help you visually sort out specific types of threads.
 
I became a club member to support the site and everything it does for its members. I have no problem if other folks do not want to join for whatever reason. I do feel that if you want to start selling/buying on this forum then it is only right to become a member. Other forums/sites do for the most part and should you choose not too...then find the sites that don't charge and take your activity there.
 
I agree. A little consideration is all that's needed. Moderator shouldn't have to police the forums for this type of BS. Were're all grown::ups here after all. LOL:sorry:
 
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