What is the best mass Production cue in term of feel and playabilty?

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I may have to ask this because I'm just new to this, and in my province there just a little of them. So if there's a mass production cue that hits good in term of feel and playability (excluding the LD), please help me to figured it out so i can have a reference. Thank you very much for your help and maybe review.
 
samiun said:
I may have to ask this because I'm just new to this, and in my province there just a little of them. So if there's a mass production cue that hits good in term of feel and playability (excluding the LD), please help me to figured it out so i can have a reference. Thank you very much for your help and maybe review.
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Lucasi.... but put a harder tip on it. I think they tend to be a little butt heavy but for the money, you can't go wrong.

Kim
 
I'm all about Joss, cant get better bang for buck, but thats only my opinion.

It really depends on your preferences, you really should try before buying.

Or buy McDermott and Joss, hit both and keep the one you like, those two are like night and day when it comes to feel and hit.

Jarno
 
Older D series McDermott or a pechauer if you ask me.
A lot of people probably say schon, joss, or mezz. I have not hit with a mezz, but the certain cues i tried of the others, did not feel the best to me. I can say that I do not like the feel of a stainless joint, and the cues that I tried did have that style joint.

But either way, the best I've felt is the two I listed. I have an older d8 and d12 from McDermott that shoot extremely well. I also have a jacoby that shoot great. The pechauers feel very similar to the jacoby that's my main player!
 
I have owned so many in my lifetime I lost track. When waiting for a custom or got a game to gamble on with no cue the Joss Sneaky Pete has it all.
 
My vote goes to Schon. Also have hit with a few early model (80s) McDermotts that hit real good.
 
Schon or Joss for sure but I am partial to steel joints and stiffer hitting cues. Just pick a design you like, weight, tip size, LD shaft or not and go shoot. They both have real solid quality feeling cues with or with out the addition of an LD shaft. Mezz is also another good choice and made really well.

Just my 2cents. Good shooting to you,

Kevin
 
I dig JOSS, and would say they aren't just good, they are great. But there are others.

People really seem to dig the Schon cues, great players by many accounts.

I really dig the older McDermotts and you can grab them for great prices. D-Series especially. The C and earlier are great but harder to find especially at good prices.

MEZZ has a good reputation but I don't favor them. The Lucasi and Players end of the business is actually producing some good players from what I hear and should not be discredited.

And of course there are more.

Best? I'll go with JOSS, but that's a biased opinion...purely subjective...


Then of course you have to consider any one of them with any possible aftermarket shaft, which only confuses things further....


And that brings me back to JOSS. It seems there are already a few that mentioned JOSS. Hard to argue against it. Long history of cues coming out of a real custom shop run by Dan Janes, a highly regarded Hall of Fame cue maker that still makes custom cues. Stroud, Scruggs, and Sigel came out of that shop. They have been industry leaders for a long time in several ways. Their cue development has been at the head of the pack as well, quietly, without a lot of propaganda, in your face marketing, or loud boasting.


Pick your favorite. I pick JOSS.


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Schon is not really mass produced,
a very few people assist in the production of and come under the
close personal inspection of one man
I certainly don't see them being made on an assembly line

In my opinion they are way ahead of the others
including most custom cues

More tournaments were won by players using schon cues and
when those same players signed contracts to play other cue

i don't remember those same players ever playing as well
 
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deanoc said:
schon is not really mass produced
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I guess people can argue about what mass produced means then...which has been argued here before.

If it has a model number and can be picked out of a catalog of already made cues and or numerous copies are stocked by retailers, to me it is mass produced. Surely it can be a limited production, but nonetheless mass produced.

Surely Schon does still produce custom cues, but the brunt of their output is mass production IMHO.

The same can be said of JOSS. The same was once true of Huebler as well. I don't think that people would ever argue that Paul Huebler's custom shop cues were mass produced....and in the same token they wouldn't argue that Huebler was not engaged in mass production.

Personally, I think Schon is an appropriate part of this conversation regardless of how one labels them.
 
My favorite custom production companies are McDermott, Viking & Joss for USA cues, and Mezz for a Japan made cue. Those companies all make great cues that you can get into for a very reasonable price.

My favorite custom shop cue makers are Schon, Pechauer, & Jacoby for USA cues.

All these listed cue makers make great cues, and they all offer great values at different price points upto and over $1,000.00.

The main questions you need to look at in considering a buy decision are how much are your prepared to spend?, determine if you prefer a stiff hitting cue or soft hitting cue. In general cues with stainless steel joints will tend to offer a stiffer hit, and cues with an implex style joint will offer a softer hit.

But the type of tip you choose to use has a great impact on how a cue feels when your shooting no matter what cue brand you choose, and you need to experiement with tips to find what feels good for you.

Beyond all this, shaft tapers and construction types can make an impact what spin you can put on the cue ball and control, but figuring out what works for you requires alot of test & try time with various shaft types. Cue weight and balance can be another issue to affect how your cue feels in your hand when your stroking. But when you deal with production & custom shop cues you tend to deal with cues with adjustable weight bolts. And as you adjust your weight downward you will tend to get a bit stronger forward balance, and as you adjust your weight upwards you will tend to get a bit stronger backwards balance.

All of the above listed cue brands will give you a solid value for a custom cue that will last you a lifetime. But within each brand you have choices to make in terms of weight, tip size, design style, that will effect your final price. Thats it for my advice.
 
samiun said:
I may have to ask this because I'm just new to this, and in my province there just a little of them. So if there's a mass production cue that hits good in term of feel and playability (excluding the LD), please help me to figured it out so i can have a reference. Thank you very much for your help and maybe review.
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Helmstetter or Adam Cues
 
Totally subjective answers as feel and play are different from one person to the next. Go to your local pool hall and see if they have anything for you to test out and go from there.

For me it's Joss, McDermott, Dufferin and Rat.

Patrick
 
Now I have many references about the mass production cue, thanks to all of you. I have tested Schon STD 8, Mezz Exceed, Predator 5K-Ikon, Lucasi Hybrid and Custom, Players HXT and Fury NR Series. The Cuetec, Joss, McDermott, Pechauer and any top brand never reach my province, so my references just like a pocket book :).
 
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