Name a player that evokes mythical status

ChicagoJoe said:
any reason? i was looking through his posts and he seemed pretty respectful.
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(Re:Mark Tadd )- His early posts were rambling. Here was an early one..


ok many of you guys do not know me but i used to play faily good in my opinion im going to try to srir up some controversy. i didnt read any of the posts prior to writing the last one so here goes . some say that it is not nesassary to use inside english on cut shots , i think is wrong. i think it is very nesassary . i dont think there are any top players that dont do it. and i mean really top players eferen earl johnny and many others. i will go a step further i dont think you can be a top top player without doing this or understanding why it is a must. now we are talking about using below center or bottom outside english. it does not apply to top english unless you are close to to the shot. but im talking about cue ball long shot for the cash or pressure. for instance cue ball behind the line three inches to the left of spot object ball half in to an inch of rail around second diamond so ruffly twe feet from hole. not to many if ant top players would roll this ball for fear of roll off they will use bottom left to some degree . and they do that not because there is another option that is easier. they do it be cause it is the easiest way to make it with cue ball control. if there was an easier way they would do that but there isnt. or why would they all consistantly shoot it that way when on 9 ball for all the cash right . plus i also think the top top players play better that the old timersspecificaly efren. i guess thats another post. would love to hear all agreements and disagreements on why im wrong or right. just a hasbeens opinion based on to much time on pool tables instead of school lol mark
 
stevelomako said:
Jack Foreacker--3 cushion

Sammy Blumenthal--snooker

Mike Carella--one pocket
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Now this post is a little more faithful to the original post....
...I think some of you guys should google 'mythical'.

Sam Blumenthal only had one loss in his room in Jacksonville, as far as I know...
..that was George Chenier, the North American snooker champion, who died
undefeated.
Sam did have one loss that I know of...he went to Pensacola and got beat by
Dick Huntsinger...who was never beaten in his room.
But he wouldn't play Sam back n J'ville.

At that time, many thought Freddy Salem of Detroit was the best 5x10
snooker play in the US of A...Freddy challenged Sam or Dick to play for
$20,000 in a neutral city, but the challenge wasn't answered.

I knew Foracker, who was thought to be the equal of Hoppe, but he stayed
on the action side.

Many of us thought Mike Carella would be the new Mosconi, but action
cost him his life.

I think Gary 'the Bushwhacker' Nolan belongs in the mythical category also,
along with 'Frisco' Jack Cooney, because their best games were in the covert
range...who knows how good they were, and how much money they won?

Don Willis and 'The White Hope' were also of legend...no tournament stats
or championships to rate them by...but they may have been better than champions.
 
Legendary Spanish Mike

Mike Lebron beat the greatest 9 ball player of all time.
He took down the Rifleman Buddy Hall for 50 G's at the 1991 International Challenge of Champions.

Now that is Legendary and Unforgettable

Here are the Gentlemen (They are a credit to our Game).

Mike Sigel
Buddy Hall
Nick Varner
Jim Rempe
Allen Hopkins
David Howard
Kim Davenport

Mike Lebron beat them now that is truly legendary. :bow-down:
 
these "legendary gamblers" knew about the strength of the Inside of the Cue Ball

TATE said:
(Re:Mark Tadd )- His early posts were rambling. Here was an early one..


ok many of you guys do not know me but i used to play fairly good in my opinion im going to try to stir up some controversy. i didn't read any of the posts prior to writing the last one so here goes . some say that it is not necessary to use inside english on cut shots , i think is wrong. i think it is very necessary . i don't think there are any top players that don't do it. and i mean really top players Efren earl johnny and many others. i will go a step further i don't think you can be a top top player without doing this or understanding why it is a must.mark
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Mark Tadd introducing the Touch of Inside concept to the AZBILLIARDS Forum?....no wonder everyone thought he was "crazy," the TOI Technique, when I introduced it went over like a "lead balloon" :groucho: and now it's being used all over the world.....hmmm, maybe pool can change. ;)

I believe with further investigation most of these "legendary gamblers" knew about the strength of the Inside of the Cue Ball. 'The Game is the Teacher'
 
Yeah, I'm not so sure of this TOI stuff. I haven't finished watching the DVD yet.

Hahaha, JK. A very simple DVD, easy to understand and implement. This inside stuff has already got me many league night wins. I probably would have won them anyway but it just got a whole lot easier. Huge difference and that is the difference.

Just wait until I watch it a couple more times and really start to practice it.

Hey, put me on the list for the Banking TOI.
 
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James Walden
Jack Cooney
Mark Tademy
Paul Turner
Efren
Earl
Varner
BHall
Mizerak!
Sigel
Johnny
Bugs
Eddie Taylor

Never saw Eddie play and didn't catch Mr. Tadd in his prime but the others are downright scary, albiet for different reasons, from an eye-witness point of view. In his prime I don't believe anyone could beat Archer for any real stretch of time playing 9ball(though I've heard our very own CJ Wiley did on more than one occasion I still don't think it would play out that way over time). Anyone that argues that Efren isn't the greatest ALL AROUND either knows nothing about pool or just wants to start an argument.

Just my opinion but of course it's right so...
 
CJ Wiley said:
Mark Tadd introducing the Touch of Inside concept to the AZBILLIARDS Forum?...
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CJ, if you read a little farther (painful though it may be), he changes his terminology to bottom outside english. Like all his posts here, it's actually very difficult to tell what he actually meant.

Back on topic, David Matlock is another great example of the answer to the question as I interpret it; guys with reputations that FAR exceed any gear that can be proven or disproven. Sure would have liked to see him run those 30 racks in a row, though.

-Andrew
 
I second that

Mr. Bond said:
Lock n load:cool:
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Lock may be a little older now and have some eye issues .When I first met Lock I thought he was alot of talk then a well known road player told me a few stories about being a young player and walking into a room in Louisiana and Lock was playing on 4 different tables at one time.To this day Lock I tell people about Lock running two racks of 9 ball ,one handed ,on my table (a 9ft GC) , and did I mention both times he banked the 9 three rails .:D
 
Willie Hoppe, Willie Mosconi, Minnesota Fats, Efren Reyes and Jean Balukas.

In some ways, though, Harold Worst is more mythical than all of these legends ... Mosconi may be pool's Babe Ruth, but Worst may have been be its Roy Hobbs.
 
He would play champions like Allen Hopkins for 2000 a game playing last pocket 8Ball

Andrew Manning said:
CJ, if you read a little farther (painful though it may be), he changes his terminology to bottom outside english. Like all his posts here, it's actually very difficult to tell what he actually meant.

Back on topic, David Matlock is another great example of the answer to the question as I interpret it; guys with reputations that FAR exceed any gear that can be proven or disproven. Sure would have liked to see him run those 30 racks in a row, though.

-Andrew
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Yes, it seems to be contradictory, I just saw him play quite a bit and understand his style and he did use the "inside approach" quite a bit.

Omaha John was another one that reached legendary status in his day. He traveled with "SURFER" ROD who was one of the most entertaining road players as well. He would play champions like Allen Hopkins for 2000 a game playing last pocket eight ball on a bar table.....now that's ACTION!
 
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