Alex being Alex
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Last I checked placing a wager on a pool match neither makes you a boss or the pool player an employee.
Your kind of attitude is what makes the worst of people come out in things like calcuttas.
Pool players enter events for many of their own reasons, none of which is to make you money on a wager.
Alex entered the tournament on his own dime that makes it his tournament to blow or do what ever he wants with.
You can be disgusted for his antics and lack of etiquette, but don't think for a second that you have some right for him to play good because you put a wager on him.
I'll come at this another way.
As Celtic said "Alex is a pro".
Pro, of course, is short for professional.
There is a reasonable expectation that professionals act professionally. Alex did not.
There are lots of opportunities to blow off steam, get drunk, smoke a joint, or do whatever floats your boat, but choosing to get buzzed up right before playing in a DCC final was a horrible decision.
Best,
Brian kc
As Celtic said "Alex is a pro".
Pro, of course, is short for professional.
There is a reasonable expectation that professionals act professionally. Alex did not.
There are lots of opportunities to blow off steam, get drunk, smoke a joint, or do whatever floats your boat, but choosing to get buzzed up right before playing in a DCC final was a horrible decision.
Best,
Brian kc
If you guys want goodtooshoes behavior, stick to watching accustats on dvd, NOT live. As soon as you go to a real pool event in person, you will see the other side of pool.... drugs, gambling, dumping, drinking, hookers, barking, groupies, cheating, crying and moaning, etc.
I like all sides of it. If you don't, then don't place yourselves in situations to observe the other side of it.
I like all sides of it. If you don't, then don't place yourselves in situations to observe the other side of it.
I understand the comparison, but it should be noted that Alex basically showed up drunk for work- which is grounds for firing in most jobs
This was a tournament, not a gambling match
Difference is Alex works for Alex and if Alex wants to take a working day off then it's Alex's choice. Alex isn't going to fire Alex for getting drunk.
Hello greenman;
I agree that Alex can "blow or do what ever he wants with" any tourney he enters on his own dime.
However, if he chooses to act like an ass and get drunk while he plays, then he should expect fans and, yes, even bettors, may be disappointed and get pissed at his poor decision and apparent cavalliere attitude.
Best,
Brian kc
I usually expect better out of my role models. I'm just happy to see Alex playing again. Having said that, I'm pretty sure I'd give Gandhi, Mandela, or Einstein a free pass for getting drunk and showing their ass too.
Yes, but it makes promoting an event more difficult if one of the superstars doesn't take his job seriously
Alex should really not do this again.
In pool you get payed based on performance, not by the hour. Alex showed up drunk for the match, got drilled, and Daz took the cash.
If Alex is getting paid by a sponser they have a right to question his actions, if he was backed into the event then those people have the right to be choked. If Alex put in his own dime to travel to the DCC and enter the events then Alex is his own personal business putting in his own investments of captial and getting out whatever he is able to work for or not. Alex did not win, so he did not get paid for that match.
The boss/employee comparison is completely moot because it is nothing like what a pool player deals with atm. Nor is what a pool player deals with anything like the PGA, the pro tennis circuit, nothing. Pool players are completely disconnected from any professional organization or tour that would give them stability in their profession and in turn hold to certain rules of conduct. ATM that flat out does not exist, and that fact sucks more for the actual pros more then anyone else.
Everybody better read this a couple more times. What Alex did last night was nothing new, it is one of the many faces of Pool.
Stop the nonsense & stop making excuses for top players who embarrass themselves and the sport we all love.
Alex has been living in Vegas for a while now and I've seen him and BS with him on almost a daily basis the least 4 months. Alex is super friendly, funny as hell, always has a smile on his face and for those reasons I really like the guy. However when you are a professional player you not only represent yourself but you also an ambassador to the sport and as such, behavior like Alex displayed during the match with Daz should be condemned publicly. This kind of stuff is why a strong player association should be formed (like what Archer is trying to do) that way there will be player conduct rules and if another situation arises like this one with Alex the players association can sanction/fine the offending member. If the member refuses to pay the fine imposed then that member will be bared from future events until the fine is paid and if the member has multiple offenses they might face a lifetime ban etc........
Alex has been living in Vegas for a while now and I've seen him and BS with him on almost a daily basis the least 4 months. Alex is super friendly, funny as hell, always has a smile on his face and for those reasons I really like the guy. However when you are a professional player you not only represent yourself but you also an ambassador to the sport and as such, behavior like Alex displayed during the match with Daz should be condemned publicly. This kind of stuff is why a strong player association should be formed (like what Archer is trying to do) that way there will be player conduct rules and if another situation arises like this one with Alex the players association can sanction/fine the offending member. If the member refuses to pay the fine imposed then that member will be bared from future events until the fine is paid and if the member has multiple offenses they might face a lifetime ban etc........
Bob,
Thank you for this explanation on the scheduling of the 14.1 final match. I was wondering why it became the finale of DCC. I agree, if it was held friday night as originally scheduled, all would be fine. I think it was unfortunate timing that the 14.1 final was held until the 9-ball tournament was over, I believe Alex felt that his DCC was over at that point and he was simply "unwinding" after a very long 8-9 days. I would cut him some slack.
And I would like to offer my congratulations to both Alex & SVB for their great play and finishes.
Dave
He weighed 110lbs when he started thats how
Following to the part of if Alex didn't win then he didn't get paid....What about the small group of people that supplied the CASH to put on this event and pay the Players ? All of the hard word and organized efforts that they went through just to help promote the game of 14.1. I know if I were one of them, I would not have been thrilled to hand Alex $1800.00 for the 14.1 event.( I could be wrong about the $$$ amount, but I think I'm pretty close ) This is still another Black eye for our over all sport of Pool...
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The world of pool has all kind of players...Somtimes you need to know the variables instead of just betting on a name...I use to stake Scotty a good bit & come to realize I had to do my homework before I bet...As long as Scotty got a good night sleep the night before you was alright...if he was the 2nd or 3rd day of the run just don't bet.
The world of pool has all kind of players...Somtimes you need to know the variables instead of just betting on a name...I use to stake Scotty a good bit & come to realize I had to do my homework before I bet...As long as Scotty got a good night sleep the night before you was alright...if he was the 2nd or 3rd day of the run just don't bet.
If guys going on the road want to get hammered and blow their cash of course that's their business and no one else's.
However, during a professional event there should be rules of personal conduct. People spend their hard earned money to support a sport they deserve to get their money's worth. I like Alex but he deserves harsh criticism for showing he ass like he did.
What do you think would happen if a professional tennis player showed up for the finals at Wimbledon or a PGA golfer pulled Alex's stunt on Sunday afternoon at the Masters? :yikes:
From sublime to ridiculous.
Puckett and Taylor probably weren't playing on live pay per view in a prestigious final at DCC.
And, FWIW, I think we are all entitled to an opinion.
best,
Brian kc