Is it possible that a table can play to fast. Played on a bar box with a knock off Simonis and very lively rails. Slow rolling was next to impossible. Had to stay very close to the center of the cb. Drawing and following was easy but speed control was a bear. Whatcha think.
Can a table be to fast
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By definition, yes.
If it's playing too fast, then yes, it can play too fast.
Maybe "too fast" is a relative thing. What is too fast for some folks, may be too slow for others.
I imagine if I played on a heated 3-cushion table (never have), I might think it was extremely fast. Those that play 3-cushion regularly, may differ.
If it's playing too fast, then yes, it can play too fast.
Maybe "too fast" is a relative thing. What is too fast for some folks, may be too slow for others.
I imagine if I played on a heated 3-cushion table (never have), I might think it was extremely fast. Those that play 3-cushion regularly, may differ.
Heated tables do play very fast but not in the same way that a fast pool table does. On the heated tables you can hit a ball and after a few cushions when it looks like the ball should stop rolling it doesn't stop and just keeps going for another 8 feet or so!
I love faster cloth, the faster the better. Never met a table that was too fast for me. I don't see why slow rolling would be impossible on a table... if the cue ball travels further and faster than you'd expect, so does the object ball. So you can still hold the CB by creeping balls into the pocket in some cases. And if you can't hold it and must go across the table and back, it's a lot easier on a fast one than a slow one.
Also the pockets are less likely to spit balls out too because you almost never need to drill 'em in with a lot of force. In general I love that I almost never need to force whitey into position.
I play all day on 760 and I'm really thankful for it, it pains me to go back to slower stuff, even 860.
Also the pockets are less likely to spit balls out too because you almost never need to drill 'em in with a lot of force. In general I love that I almost never need to force whitey into position.
I play all day on 760 and I'm really thankful for it, it pains me to go back to slower stuff, even 860.
Yes a table can play to fast, incorrect rubber, or the wrong cloth are all that it takes. I have seen bar box tables that the wrong rubber was installed upon. If the rubber has the wrong nose height, and it is too high the rails will be dead, if the rails are too low the ball will jump when it hit a rail. However, once in a while you find a table with the wrong profile rubber used, and some slick mechanic shimmed the rails in place of installing the correct profile rubber.
Cloth come in different speeds, from personal experience I can say you do not want to use 3-Cushion Billiards Cloth on a Pool Table. It will make the table play so fast that you can't play any kind of shape. Granito makes a cloth called Granito - M and Simonis makes a Cloth called Simonis 300, I would never use either on a pool table.
Take Care
Is this really a question?
If so, the answer is: Yes.
If so, the answer is: Yes.
I think you'll learn how to adapt to that table...or any other...in less than two weeks! :thumbup:
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Try slow rolling on a snooker table after playing on a guarana cloth....the answer is yes.
dares a table in miami dat actually has billiard felt on it. i believe its simonis 330
Guarana= Ingredient in energy drinks
Gorina= Pool cloth used for IPT tables, notoriously slow (And the best ever, imo)
I think almost all tables play too fast. I don't like Simonis, I think it makes the game too easy. Gorina is my favorite.....
I prefer slow cloth, where you must possess a pure and powerful stroke to move the cueball around. Fast cloth means that nearly anyone can move the CB to its desired landing spot.
I like having to smack the ball, I like forcing position from a small angle, and I like that if my opponent's force/power/draw/follow stroke is weaker than mine, I have an advantage.
Fast cloth often means that lesser skilled players can still achieve their desired position, even if they don't have any stroke power.
Simonis cloth leads to too many breaks with 3 balls down, and an easy runout, and too many instances where they picked up the wrong angle, but they can recover easily because the cloth is fast.....I say make the good players work for their runouts.
Make them (us) play precision shape, where you need some ability to execute the shots, instead of this glass table where you can never let out your stroke.....
(This may be the only time I've ever agreed with Kevin Trudeau, except when I bought that damned "Natural Cures" book!!!)
JMO, I know a lot of you guys live and die by Simonis, but I'm a hardcore traditionalist... (and bring back mud balls)
I prefer slow cloth, where you must possess a pure and powerful stroke to move the cueball around. Fast cloth means that nearly anyone can move the CB to its desired landing spot.
I like having to smack the ball, I like forcing position from a small angle, and I like that if my opponent's force/power/draw/follow stroke is weaker than mine, I have an advantage.
Fast cloth often means that lesser skilled players can still achieve their desired position, even if they don't have any stroke power.
Simonis cloth leads to too many breaks with 3 balls down, and an easy runout, and too many instances where they picked up the wrong angle, but they can recover easily because the cloth is fast.....I say make the good players work for their runouts.
Make them (us) play precision shape, where you need some ability to execute the shots, instead of this glass table where you can never let out your stroke.....
(This may be the only time I've ever agreed with Kevin Trudeau, except when I bought that damned "Natural Cures" book!!!)
JMO, I know a lot of you guys live and die by Simonis, but I'm a hardcore traditionalist... (and bring back mud balls)
I think almost all tables play too fast. I don't like Simonis, I think it makes the game too easy. Gorina is my favorite.....
I prefer slow cloth, where you must possess a pure and powerful stroke to move the cueball around. Fast cloth means that nearly anyone can move the CB to its desired landing spot.
I like having to smack the ball, I like forcing position from a small angle, and I like that if my opponent's force/power/draw/follow stroke is weaker than mine, I have an advantage.
Fast cloth often means that lesser skilled players can still achieve their desired position, even if they don't have any stroke power.
Simonis cloth leads to too many breaks with 3 balls down, and an easy runout, and too many instances where they picked up the wrong angle, but they can recover easily because the cloth is fast.....I say make the good players work for their runouts.
Make them (us) play precision shape, where you need some ability to execute the shots, instead of this glass table where you can never let out your stroke.....
(This may be the only time I've ever agreed with Kevin Trudeau, except when I bought that damned "Natural Cures" book!!!)
JMO, I know a lot of you guys live and die by Simonis, but I'm a hardcore traditionalist... (and bring back mud balls)
Now you've gone too far.... Mud ball bad mmmkay? The CB needa to be the same size and weight to do what it is supposed to do after the impact. I am force to play with the mud ball on a lot of bar box league play, and I was in heaven at Fast Eddies for the regional where they were using a red dot. The CB did what it was supposed to and I played great pool because of it.
As to the cloth, I have a heavy hand, I hit them like a gorilla. I like fast cloth because it makes me work harder at CB control. The slow roll is where I would like to develope more skill.
i guess that's all a matter of who's playing on the table.
after the cloth gets more worn i bet it'll get better
Our Eagles club put new rubber and Gorina basalt[very fast] on thier 7 footers a while back and they are the fastest tables I've ever seen. I personally loved them after I got used to them but they are way to fast for the most of the guys. The first time a friend lagged it went to the third rail. And I see alot of guys scratch when the cb goes 2 or 3 extra rails. Most think they are to fast. I'm having FUN!!