CJ Wiley vs Jeremy Jones Up Next - Ultimate 10 - Mon 530pm est

The bigger story is that Justin crushed Rodney Morris 10-3. Up next he has Hunter Lombardo and then most likely Archer. Tough draw for th kid who predicted a top 10 finish for hmself. Justin is pretty good when he makes predictions on himself though.
 
I feel bad for CJ. I felt his negativity on my end. I don't know what happened. He was doing good, and then missed a shot in the side. He seemed to go completely negative after that. His game was definitely affected.
The side pocket is the teacher.

No, I don't want any!
 
do you think cj will respond in this or another thread on why he lost??

Why on god's green earth would he do that? Nobody wants to hear some lame ass excuses. He got in the box, did the best he could that day, made a few mistakes along the way and lost. End of story. It happens every day. Anyone who watched the match saw just that. There is no back story here.

JC
 
Why on god's green earth would he do that? Nobody wants to hear some lame ass excuses. He got in the box, did the best he could that day, made a few mistakes along the way and lost. End of story. It happens every day. Anyone who watched the match saw just that. There is no back story here. JC

Ahh, come on JC, you're no fun....everyone is just looking for a little drama at someone else's expense. :rolleyes:

J
 
Boy, the drop in skills was pretty huge. The old CJ could give the current CJ the 7 in 10 ball now.

Skills were one thing, but CJ went on "give up" mode after getting behind. Yep, he got some bad rolls and JJ got some good ones, but that wasn't the reason he got beat. CJ missed when he shouldn't have missed and didn't luck safe.

Lots of excuses, but he just got beat.

Ken

That's what I saw too. Every one knows I'm no fan of TOI, but that has nothing to do with what I saw happen in that match. Sure, CJ is not in top form right now, no question there. But, what amazed me, was his attitude. He started playing very well. Almost looked like his "old self". Then, when he missed a ball he easily should have made, he looked like he got mentally lost.

He managed to pull it back together for a few racks, then missed again on a shot he should have made, and that's when he went into "let's just get this over with" mental mode and just went through the motions. Total loser mode. That is what amazed me, that a former top road warrior and world champ would let that happen to himself.

I found that rather interesting, because it showed me that the mental side takes just as much work as the rest of the game does. It's not something that once you learn it, it's there to tap into any time. Rather, it's something that once you learn it, you have to maintain it or it gets rusty real quick and will kill your game. Really surprised me that he so easily fell into that mental trap of give up mode knowing his history.

Time will tell if he gets back the championship attitude of "kicking butt" no matter who he is facing. I kind of doubt that he will. I say that because you have to have a reason to reach that level, and I just don't think he sees any reason any more. Money isn't there, and he already won his world title. I think that at times we may see the old CJ, but for the most part, he won't play like he used to until he finds a reason to do so. There has to be some kind of goal in mind to play your best. You have to really want to win to play your top form.
 
Why on god's green earth would he do that? Nobody wants to hear some lame ass excuses. He got in the box, did the best he could that day, made a few mistakes along the way and lost. End of story. It happens every day. Anyone who watched the match saw just that. There is no back story here.

JC

Maybe just because he now wants to be a teacher, and this would be a perfect opportunity for him to teach others what went south, why it went south, and how to prevent that from happening in the future. It's not about making excuses, it's about recognizing what went wrong and why so one can change the outcome for the better. It's not the end of the story, it's just the beginning of the story. The back story is what enables one to make a change for the better. Without the back story, there is no change, and you are stuck with "what happens, happens", instead of "I'm going to make happen what I want to happen". Huge difference right there. It's all about attitude.

You can know everything there is to know about fundamentals, strategy, safety play, cb positioning, ect., but if your mental part isn't where it should be, you will not be able to perform the rest of the parts properly. And, in my opinion, that is what went south on him in the match, the mental game.
 
The bigger story is that Justin crushed Rodney Morris 10-3. Up next he has Hunter Lombardo and then most likely Archer. Tough draw for th kid who predicted a top 10 finish for hmself. Justin is pretty good when he makes predictions on himself though.

Justin Bergman?
 
Maybe just because he now wants to be a teacher, and this would be a perfect opportunity for him to teach others what went south, why it went south, and how to prevent that from happening in the future. It's not about making excuses, it's about recognizing what went wrong and why so one can change the outcome for the better. It's not the end of the story, it's just the beginning of the story. The back story is what enables one to make a change for the better. Without the back story, there is no change, and you are stuck with "what happens, happens", instead of "I'm going to make happen what I want to happen". Huge difference right there. It's all about attitude.

You can know everything there is to know about fundamentals, strategy, safety play, cb positioning, ect., but if your mental part isn't where it should be, you will not be able to perform the rest of the parts properly. And, in my opinion, that is what went south on him in the match, the mental game.

The "mental" game is the game silly. It all happens up there. All of it.

If he knew what went south, why it went south and more importantly how to prevent it in the future he would have prevented it right then and there. This isn't his first rodeo.

By the time this event is over, dozens of the best players in the world will come up short just like CJ did. I'm sure many will have excuses. The more mature players will also have excuses but that maturity will allow them to keep them to themselves.

JC
 
The "mental" game is the game silly. It all happens up there. All of it.

If he knew what went south, why it went south and more importantly how to prevent it in the future he would have prevented it right then and there. This isn't his first rodeo.

By the time this event is over, dozens of the best players in the world will come up short just like CJ did. I'm sure many will have excuses. The more mature players will also have excuses but that maturity will allow them to keep them to themselves.

JC

Not if they are trying to be a teacher of the game. Nice try, but...fail.
 
I'm sure CJ "real eyes-ed" what happened and will let us know. He's quite a teacher.
 
For whatever it's worth, everybody hopes to get a good draw when they are at a tournament like this. It seems to me that C.J. got an unlucky draw if he pulled Jeremy Jones the first round.

He can plow his way through the B side of the charts and still do just fine. :)
 
Not if they are trying to be a teacher of the game. Nice try, but...fail.

You cannot teach the cure to what went wrong in that match. Any more than Ponce de Leon could find the fountain of youth. I guess he doesn't need to come on here an make excuses, you can take care of it for him.

JC
 
For whatever it's worth, everybody hopes to get a good draw when they are at a tournament like this. It seems to me that C.J. got an unlucky draw if he pulled Jeremy Jones the first round.

He can plow his way through the B side of the charts and still do just fine. :)

I wouldnt say drawing JJ was an unlucky draw. There are plenty of other players that he could have had trouble with first round. And him plowing through the B side is far from a certainty.
 
I wouldnt say drawing JJ was an unlucky draw. There are plenty of other players that he could have had trouble with first round. And him plowing through the B side is far from a certainty.

Sometimes the B side of the chart can be a good thing as it keeps you in stroke. :wink:

Was this tournament seeded? :confused:
 
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