Delta 13
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I can't speak for every wooden rack, or every version of the Delta rack, but I will say that I frequently play with a gentleman that has the Delta Select, and I can't really imagine a better triangle style rack. It is pure awesome.
Yes, the Delta rack is the best, followed by Diamond's wood rack. Do get the noise dampening inserts though.
If you hold the rack firmly with one hand and scoop the balls into it, it drastically reduces the pinging noise...more of a dull ping.
If you're adept enough to hold the rack firmly with both hands and scoop the balls into it, it makes it acceptably quiet.
Or, if the noise bothers you enough to warrant spending your beer money on noise dampeners...then I won't begrudge you that. :thumbup:
Maniac
for a triangle I don't know of any better one than a Delta 13.
What happens when a rack slammer puts it down on the bed with force?
Torn cloth?
Torn cloth?
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention in my earlier post...the Delta 13 almost makes an excellent dinner bell. Seriously. :grin:
Maniac
Most of the premium poolhalls and tournaments around me use Delta Elites. I've noticed, after 4 plus years of use, they do loosen up and need to be re-adjusted. Except for online, I haven't heard any complaints about noise.
I have used both Deltas and wooden racks, and the high end wooden racks (Diamond or Muellers) are comparable.
I have used both Deltas and wooden racks, and the high end wooden racks (Diamond or Muellers) are comparable.
Henry...Honest question...how do you adjust something that is cast aluminum?
Scott Lee
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Scott, haven't you ever noticed the 18 rivets on the Delta-13 that holds the corners to the sides? Rivets can loosen and change the specs on that rack.
The cheaper Delta rack is all one piece. I have both and use the cheaper version way more.
Maniac
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You don't. The Delta 13 doesn't need "adjustment". If the screws come loose, whoever tightened them did it wrong. There are no "rivets". If you don't know how to tighten a screw, invest in loc-tite green. The pieces fit together properly, hence the only possible change you could make to the rack is to loosen the screws, with the super complex solution of : tighten the screws lol.
KMRUNOUT
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I guess I should have said "screws" in my previous post instead of rivets. I knew they had some type of hardware on them. I looked at my rack before my posting and didn't see any way to turn the screws. I originally thought it appeared that they had Torx-heads on them, but in the dim light and my poor eyesight, I just could not tell.
I stand corrected.
Maniac
Yeah my Elite model appears to have allen head screws. I've never tried taking them out, no real need to do that. However, having assembled many assemblies of precision machined parts...they pretty much will screw together the same way every time. I've seen no loosening of any of the screws. To be fair, I don't use the rack a ton. But it sure does work awesome!
Edit: mine is from the first year they came out. I don't know if they changed them at all since then. I feel compelled to point out that it was given to me by Allen Hopkins. Delta 13 was the offical rack for the Super Billiards Expo pro tourney that year. I checked out their booth and really liked the idea. I made a point of going up to Allen and telling him I really liked the rack and was happy to see them using it in the pro tourney. "Oh yeah you like it? Come with me." He brings me in a back room and says "pick one". So for no reason at all he just *gave* me a $135 rack. He barely knows me except for a few conversations at the Expo. A very nice gesture that I will never forget and share every time I have the chance!
KMRUNOUT
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Any metal rack, if hung on a light, and if it's heavy....when it falls it could easily cut the cloth. Some metal racks are soooooooo heavy they make a sheen on the cloth in the rack area, from the back/forth racking motion. The best racks I've ever seen and used were Woodworks. Dan Tull at Shooters in Olathe KS used them for years, plus the sounds wooden racks make are classic pool room noise, as are GC tables when the balls enter the pockets at speed. To each his own, but to me a light, well made wooden rack, that allows the fingers to get behind the back row of balls for racking a full rack or a short rack are hard to beat. If you find a cheaper, tongue and groove wooden rack with sharp edges, just sand the 90 degree edges, but make sure there's room for your fingers to push up against the balls.
There were some thick hard plastic/fiber racks made that really worked well and were virtually indestructible. Haven't seen any around in a long time.
Well I have both the Diamond wood rack and the Delta 13 Elite with inserts. I have used both but prefer the Delta it has always given me a good rack. It being made of metal is a major plus in my book. I have played with a lot of older racks including Diamond wooden racks that seem to have over time changed their inside shape from continued use and you had to rack them with a particular corner of the rack on the spot to get a tight rack. Wood seems to also tend to get loose over time as well.
JMHO
JMHO
I have the cheaper Delta model. My concerns is the wear on the balls when rubbing against the metal moving the rack onto the spot. The other is the potential of a ball being chipped if accidentally slipping out of my hand when placing in the rack.
