Did Shane Shark Himself?

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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I think what happened to Shane’s game on TAR #24 was he sharked himself with his own aiming system. After Justin got him to show how it works and explaining it he kept going through it in his mind when aiming instead of just letting it happen like he said he does.

Kind of like asking the guy you’re playing what he looks at last, the pocket, the OB, or the QB. :) Johnnyt
 
By gosh, you've hit it! But we have to blame (or credit) Fast Lenny, because he's the one who sent the question to Justin to ask Shane about his aiming method.

But then, Justin also asked Francisco about his peculiar stroking motions. I wonder why that didn't shark Francisco?
 
I didn't watch the match, so I don't know what happened. I know Busty won, but did Shane dog a bunch of shots or did Busty just work him on the last day?
 
Johnnyt said:
I think what happened to Shane’s game on TAR #24 was he sharked himself with his own aiming system. After Justin got him to show how it works and explaining it he kept going through it in his mind when aiming instead of just letting it happen like he said he does.

Kind of like asking the guy you’re playing what he looks at last, the pocket, the OB, or the QB. :) Johnnyt
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Lol! I was going to just start a post on what u look at last. Just watched break and run by runout media. And Rodney Morris said u should look at the cb last. In the outtakes he explain why(which I 100% agree with). Some of the other guys started questioning him. I wish I heard the whole conversation on that topic.
 
westcoast said:
I didn't watch the match, so I don't know what happened. I know Busty won, but did Shane dog a bunch of shots or did Busty just work him on the last day?
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Busti ( Busty sounds like a chick with huge tatas to me :grin-square: ) shot great early on ( minus an early miss ) and was breaking great. He made the ball behind the 1 go to the side often and had a good layouts. Also caught some rolls when he didn't make a ball.
Shane had some positional errors and they just killed his runs.
Busti had some positional errors too but he recovered fine ( I think his experience showed here ).
One thing I noticed too, Busta plays the side pocket better than Shane.
Decades of experience and creativity were huge for Busti.
 
Johnnyt said:
I think what happened to Shane’s game on TAR #24 was he sharked himself with his own aiming system. After Justin got him to show how it works and explaining it he kept going through it in his mind when aiming instead of just letting it happen like he said he does.

Kind of like asking the guy you’re playing what he looks at last, the pocket, the OB, or the QB. :) Johnnyt
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Why would anyone who is rooting for him to win bring up something so ridiculous.
If he is in the middle of something like this the last thing he needs are a bunch of questions who need 25 hours of explanations.
 
westcoast said:
I didn't watch the match, so I don't know what happened. I know Busty won, but did Shane dog a bunch of shots or did Busty just work him on the last day?
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If you look at the stats, there was only a difference of 3 games out of 135, a ratio of 1 game for every 45 played.

When matches are this close, every little thing matters.

In my opinion, Shane let the rolls get to him. He was frustrated by not getting a shot on the one after the break, not getting a shot on Busty's dry breaks, and Busty was playing good. So there was heat from Bustamante, heat from the rolls, and heat from Shane not being able to string racks or control the table well.

Bustamante was playing well but his nerves showed too. He went airborne on more than a few shots. Shane did dog a few and was slumping in his chair. At one stage he scratched in the side, got angry and bounced the cueball off the table and across the room. Very -un-Shane like! Busty walked over, picked up the ball, and continued like nothing happened.

Bustamante's gambling experience paid off. He controlled himself very well and he is all business. Ultimately, Shane's going to have to learn how to shake off frustrations because that small difference cost him a few games - and when the spread is one game in each 45 played, you can't afford to give them away.

Chris
 
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TATE said:
If you look at the stats, there was only a difference of 3 games out of 135, a ratio of 1 game for every 45 played.

When matches are this close, every little thing matters.

In my opinion, Shane let the rolls get to him. He was frustrated by not getting a shot on the one after the break, not getting a shot on Busty's dry breaks, and Busty was playing good. So there was heat from Bustamante, heat from the rolls, and heat from Shane not being able to string racks or control the table well.

Bustamante was playing well but his nerves showed too. He went airborne on more than a few shots. Shane did dog a few and was slumping in his chair. At one stage he scratched in the side, got angry and bounced the cueball off the table and across the room. Very -un-Shane like! Busty walked over, picked up the ball, and continued like nothing happened.

Bustamante's gambling experience paid off. He controlled himself very well and he is all business. Ultimately, Shane's going to have to learn how to shake off frustrations because that small difference cost him a few games - and when the spread is one game in each 45 played, you can't afford to give them away.

Chris
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The guy plays more than anyone on the planet, how much experience does he need?
I am a huge SVB fan and feel he is very good for the game itself, but i'm surprised at this behavior.
 
ironman said:
The guy plays more than anyone on the planet, how much experience does he need?
I am a huge SVB fan and feel he is very good for the game itself, but i'm surprised at this behavior.
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Well, considering it was a one time thing, hopefully he'll learn from it. I'm sure he's not happy with himself after that.

He's still a young guy. I have nothing but respect for him too - he's a champion. Shane is the best thing to come along for railbirds in a long time and he's only going to get better.
 
A few things really stood out for me on the last day. Shane missed a couple of opportunities early in the match missing shots he probably should make. And to compound that. Busty was kicking out of all his safes and getting safes or tough shots back.. Not selling out. Pair those with Shanes break not working like it normally does and busty's break being pretty strong and Shane dogging a few positions and shots that were definately gimme's for him, he was bound to get a little down on himself, and that's all it takes against a player of that caliber.
 
Johnnyt said:
I think what happened to Shane’s game on TAR #24 was he sharked himself with his own aiming system. After Justin got him to show how it works and explaining it he kept going through it in his mind when aiming instead of just letting it happen like he said he does.

Kind of like asking the guy you’re playing what he looks at last, the pocket, the OB, or the QB. :) Johnnyt
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Nothing happened to Shane's game. He's playing one of the best players to ever live and a lot of rolls went against him. Day 1, hill hill... day 2, he won just as well as busty did on day 3. That's pool. That's anything. Why did the packers lose? Did Sports Center shark them? NO, on any given day, people at that level can play like monsters. Busty played like God on day 3.

Shane missed less balls than Busty, I don't think it was the aiming system... Nice try though.
 
ironman said:
Why would anyone who is rooting for him to win bring up something so ridiculous.
If he is in the middle of something like this the last thing he needs are a bunch of questions who need 25 hours of explanations.
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This was brought up a day before they played and had no affect on the outcome of the match.

Shane is a professional and something like this won't throw his game off.. or if it does, for 5 minutes. It's ridiculous to even think that's why he lost.
 
I didn't see the stream, did he play poorly?

Johnny makes a valid point. Some baseball players don't like to talk about hitting with people because they start thinking too much at the plate.
 
Shane just got beat. His break didn't work, tough table, a few rolls that hurt when it mattered... He's playing one of the best ever to breathe! It'll happen again, he'll outrun it a lot, too. He knows it. Just a day at the office.
 
alstl said:
I didn't see the stream, did he play poorly?

Johnny makes a valid point. Some baseball players don't like to talk about hitting with people because they start thinking too much at the plate.
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No...he played like the Shane we all know and love. People just like to make excuses. In reality, Francisco played really well; and Shane isn't invincible. He knows this. Francisco knows this. Alex knows this. Earl knows this. And anyone else who gets in the box knows this. Keyboard jockeys on the forum are just ignorant.

How many of you keyboard jockeys want to try Francisco some for the cash? Apparently, nobody thinks he can play. Shame on all of you for minimizing Bustamante's win. I hope he beats SVB again so I can see the new round of stupid excuses.
 
mdavis228 said:
Shane just got beat. His break didn't work, tough table, a few rolls that hurt when it mattered... He's playing one of the best ever to breathe! It'll happen again, he'll outrun it a lot, too. He knows it. Just a day at the office.
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This is it,i agree 100%,Svb didnt lose because of sharking,rolls are anything else but getting out played,by a better player that evening!
 
This was more of a joke. I for one have a problem getting back to my normal pocketing level after trying some new aiming sytem. As I said in the congrats thread for Busty, he is a great guy and a great champion. Oh, and I bet a good amount on him win the match too. Johnnyt
 
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