This may come as a shock to some people but gambling takes place at pool tournaments. When I see somebody sharking a player which is exactly what that TD is doing, it makes me wonder.
Earl tossed out of SBE...
- Thread starter alstl
- Start date
This may come as a shock to some people but gambling takes place at pool tournaments. When I see somebody sharking a player which is exactly what that TD is doing, it makes me wonder.
While that may very well be true, look at the late great Evil Knevil.
Would it be fair to say that 50% of the fans went to see him make an impossible jump and 50% went to see the possibility of him not making it.
OK, maybe a bad analogy, motorcycles and pool but its the best I could come up with.
Personally, I'm glad that Earl is making a come back and his game is as strong as ever before. And sad at the same time that he is losing it again. I was truly hoping that, that part of him would be part of his past. If I ever get lucky enuff to see Earl play in the future, I will be there watching his game and not for any antics.
And if Alex was purposely sharking him by tilting the rack, then shame on him, and the TO for not letting Earl have his side of the story.
Thats something that would have been afforded to any other pro player.
Last edited:
I believe that a lot of what would be considered sharking would fall under the category of unsportsmanlike conduct. This being the case, penalties can include anything up to and including being tossed from the event and is at the discretion of the ref or TD.
Last edited:
beamracing
Registered
I wasnt commenting on his match with Alex, I wasnt there for that. But I was there for the match where he got ejected. Compare what ive said to the other thread in the forum where one az member actually talked to Earl and found out what really happened. Maybe you havent learned as much as you think you have from this post. Trust me im not posting to just be posting. I've been a member on az for almost 4 years now and this is my 17th post, so I think it's obvious that I dont feel the need to be heard that bad.
Last edited:
sure man, I hear ya. That makes sense. I have never seen Frank or any other ref make an issue when the player was doing "nothing". I think Earl had sandpapered Frank's nerves for a while, was warned several times, and decided to push the issue. But I definitely see your point.
KMRUNOUT
I believe the pattern is that some pool players are disrespectful to their opponents and other players, and when they run into Frank, the BS is not tolerated. That is exactly what happened last year with Pinegar (and *no one* else), and this year with Earl (and no one else).
jmho,
KMRUNOUT
I guess the way I see it, the events *leading up to* the part that you did see are significant. You don't get a clean slate each time you play a new match, or each time a new spectator walks in. If someone tells you "if I hear a single word out of you again you are out", and you only witness the player saying one single word after, you might conclude that the TD was being unreasonable in ejecting him.
KMRUNOUT
Another awesom post,thank you sir!
I was there also, up front directly in front of Earl's match and Shane's which was to his right. What KMRUNOUT says is true. Johnny was playing Charlie Williams on the table to Earl's left. Earl started getting worked up because the rack at his table was giving him trouble. He was right about this because Stevie Moore and his opponent played on the same table following Earl's match and they had trouble with it too. Then, when Earl got up to shoot he seemed to get annoyed when Archer walked behind him. That is when he started to go into his rant about a lot of assholes in pool and how he (Earl) wasn't one of them. Loud enough where everyone on my side of the bleachers could hear him including his fellow players. This caught the Frank's attention. Then Earl proceeded to slap the shaft of his stick loudly against the long rail by the side pocket 4 or 5 times. (Like a teacher would hit the podium to get the classes attention). This caused evryone to look in his direction. That is when the Frank and Earl had words. I like Earl as a player but this was certainly distracting his fellow players to the point where they were watching this during their own matches. Earl did eventually stop and his match went on. He lost to Alex, shook his hand, and left the arena. I do not know what happened in his next match. (at 8 pm)
As far as the previous comments about Allen and the SBE they are all uncalled for. I've been going to this event for many years and it is one of the most organized fan, player events out there. Allen does a great job! Frank does a very good job with the players and it's one of the best places to see the pros play up close. They do run a tight ship and expect the fans and players to conduct themselves properly, as should be. I have no issue with this, it keeps everyone coming back each year. I'ts one of the best shows out there.
beamracing
Registered
You're exactly right the events leading up to this would be very significant. I didnt realize that they had trouble earlier in the tournament and that he had been warned. But I dont think asking where your opponent is when he's 25 minutes late is really grounds for getting ejected. Thank you for seeing from my point of view though. I'm only commenting on what I seen thats all.
Are you joking? You guys threw snowballs at Santa Claus. PA fans are the worst fans in every sport for every team. Sorry to hijack the thread, I just found this hilarious.
You misunderstand. I was not defending him when you posted this, I was just trying to find out what he did. I was asking why he got tossed. He did not get tossed during the Alex match. If his behavior was that bad in this match, he would have been thrown out on the spot. Didn't happen.
He says he got expelled because he asked why his opponent gets a phone call when hes 25mins late. This is what Earl says got him kicked out.
Do you think his prior behavior should have any impact on todays tournament?
Thank you Dog