Has anyone else noticed how certain cues are sold Multiple times as Monster Hitters

Yeah, I agree. It can get pretty repetitive when every cue on AZ, or on the web for that matter, is described as the best cue out there...
...but to be 100% honest, I have definitely been guilty of using 'buzz words' in a cue's listing...

"Now here I am, in need of a few bucks...and here it is, looking for a new owner who can handle the sweet, concealed playability this very dark ebony fiend has to offer..."

Haha :embarrassed2: I dunno. I guess I am inclined to write a thing or two like that because I actually really DO like the cues I'm selling, and really DO need the cash, and I want people to know that they're not just some random cue I'm trying to unload on some poor schmuck...and I'm also sometimes thinking about "hey, what if someone who is new, or at least somewhat new, to cues comes onto the boards...and starts shopping around...and they just end up reading that someone else has some 'monstrous ball-making cue machine' for sale and then I just post mine with a dry description, adequate for the regulars...and that influences the less informed...and thus, affects me..." -- its sort of the idea 'I wouldn't do it if others weren't so inclined'. And I'm also a career student, so its kind of automatic for me to write flowery bullshit from time to time...lol

...but yeah, you're 100% right. It can certainly get obnoxious. :D
Much love, manwon.
 
Personally, I don't have too much of a problem with that. First all, I have my playing cue, and I have no intention of changing it. It feels like an old friend to me. It may not be the best cue that I run across, but I know what I can rely on it to do, and how it will respond.

That does not keep me from being able to recognize a cue that has a really solid hit to it. I have had numerous cues that I know I could easily change to, because they had a "hit" that I liked. Balance, kind of hit, cue ball control...all of those things that felt just right. I don't doubt for a minute that some of the cues I have had would have made "better" long-term players than the cue I use, but I am satisfied with my old, dependable cue.

I see a lot of hot avatars on here, and I see an awful lot of really sweet looking young things at the pool room. I have no doubt that many of them have "what it takes", etc, but I have no intention of changing from the woman that has been with me for 38 years, either...of course, I can still look and appreciate quality....;)

Joe

As George Jones said:

I had one that was hotter than a two dollar pistol
she was the fastest thing around

Long and lean every young man's dream
She turned every head in town

She was built in from the handles, Son, I'm glad that you walked in

She reminds me of the one I loved back then
Well I handed him my keys and said, here take her for a spin

The old man scratched his head, then he looked at me and grinned

He said son you just don't understand it ain't the car I want
It's the brunette in your vette that turns me on
 
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LOL...Great thread and a good read alot of fun had me laughing alot ... Thanks to all who posted in it ...
 
Bamacues said:
I have my playing cue, and I have no intention of changing it. It feels like an old friend to me. It may not be the best cue that I run across, but I know what I can rely on it to do, and how it will respond....of course, I can still look and appreciate quality....;)
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Joe-
You said it. My Schon/predator combo just feels "right" in my hand. I know what to expect, and no surprises. That's a big part of a good game. I also love the Layani that Thierry built for me from my own design. It has a distinctly different feel, it's very personal to me, and I quite enjoy shooting with it. But if I had to pick one or the other to play a money match, I'd have to pull out the Schon.

That said, I'd never sell either of them unless I really had to. But I do appreciate the craftsmanship and collectability of various cues. Unfortunatley I can't afford a collection of 10 or 30 or 100 great cues, so I occasionally buy one, explore it, and then sell it to try another, even if it may feel like "the best cue I ever hit with". I figure I could probably get another like it one day if I really wanted to.

But in cues, cars, or whatever, many may come and go, but you should never sell your "first love". If you do, you usually regret it.
 
Thanks for all the wonderful and well throughout replies to this thread, and for no one in particular becoming Butt Hurt and turning this into a Pissing contest.

However, I suspect that some have missed my intent for starting this post so I will cut to the chase and try to speak my mind more clearly. This post has nothing to do with anyones expectations of a cues hit or with hit in any form in general. This post is about the beautiful and flowering words (Bullshit) people use to describe a cue that for some reason they do not like. Now, I understand why they do it, I mean they don't like the cue, and this doesn't even mean that the cue is not a great for some one else. All I am saying is that all the Bullshit is not necessary, like a horse that has been beat to death the hit of any cue is subjective to the person using it. I will also say contrary to the belief of some members, no two cues hit exactly alike, and this includes the greatest cue makers in the world. To date to my limited knowledge no current or past cue maker has ever perfected cue building to the extent that all theirs cues are identical concerning a cues hit.

I guess that in the end it really doesn't take a good sales man to sell a cue, it only takes an honest explanation of the cue for sale and sooner or later you will have a buyer looking for what is offered. Lets face it the bullshit is best left in a cow pasture that way the very people identified in this thread can continue to enjoy their Mushrooms so the rest of us can have a laugh!!!!!!!!!:thumbup:

Again thanks to all who posted, and like I said there have been some great responses so far!!!
 
manwon said:
Thanks for all the wonderful and well throughout replies to this thread, and for no one in particular becoming Butt Hurt and turning this into a Pissing contest.

However, I suspect that some have missed my intent for starting this post so I will cut to the chase and try to speak my mind more clearly. This post has nothing to do with anyones expectations of a cues hit or with hit in any form in general. This post is about the beautiful and flowering words (Bullshit) people use to describe a cue that for some reason they do not like. Now, I understand why they do it, I mean they don't like the cue, and this doesn't even mean that the cue is not a great for some one else. All I am saying is that all the Bullshit is not necessary, like a horse that has been beat to death the hit of any cue is subjective to the person using it. I will also say contrary to the belief of some members, no two cues hit exactly alike, and this includes the greatest cue makers in the world. To date to my limited knowledge no current or past cue maker has ever perfected cue building to the extent that all theirs cues are identical concerning a cues hit.

I guess that in the end it really doesn't take a good sales man to sell a cue, it only takes an honest explanation of the cue for sale and sooner or later you will have a buyer looking for what is offered. Lets face it the bullshit is best left in a cow pasture that way the very people identified in this thread can continue to enjoy their Mushrooms so the rest of us can have a laugh!!!!!!!!!:thumbup:

Again thanks to all who posted, and like I said there have been some great responses so far!!!
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"the hit of any cue is subjective to the person using it"......of course it is but it' doesn't mean they actually know what a good hitting cue is....."Lets face it the bullshit is best left in a cow pasture that way the very people identified in this thread can continue to enjoy their Mushrooms so the rest of us can have a laugh!!!!!!!!!"....now that i agree with.....:smile:
 
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""Lets face it the bullshit is best left in a cow pasture that way the very people identified in this thread can continue to enjoy their Mushrooms so the rest of us can have a laugh!!!!!!!!!"....now that i agree with.....:smile:
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...and I kid you not!!
 
I agree with you Craig. Monster hit, hits a Ton and all the other BS to lure in a buyer. I'll go one farther, in steps a shill (not always, but I'm sure it happens) and relates similar to the seller.

Then we have the guy that always has to say, if I had or didn't have (insert your text) this cue would be mine. Who cares what you would do? They either like to hear their lips flap or they are a shill as well.

If you just post the specs, length, weight, balance point, diameters, shaft taper, materials etc that's all one should need to know. You can change the "feel" (I know you guys love the word HIT) just by changing the tip to your liking. Oh, and some mention their custom, well it really isn't a custom unless its made to the buyers specs. So your not really selling a custom, just some cue you want to flip. :D

Good post Craig.

Rod
 
I think I'm going to keep my monster hitting Keith Josey...:rolleyes:

(edit) Tried to give you a greenie manwon, but evidently I agreed with you on too many other things...couldn't post it. So...tap-tap-tap.
 
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All cues hit like monster's, that is when it slips of the table and hits the floor and comes up with new scary dings, dents and a few come up with monster cracks if it lands wrong.


Look at the budwieser cue think they would sell junk cues bar players are always having problems with them trying to keep the cue ball from scratching...Hits to hard cant control the rock..

Manwon your right it 's a bit old see it over and over and over again.

Good post

Craig
 
Best Hitting, Monster

manwon said:
:grin-devilish:Hey guys has anyone else noticed that certain cues are bought and re-sold in a very short period of time, however, they are always listed as being Monster Hitters or the best cue they ever owned.:shrug::help::grin-devilish: Now to me personally how can this be possible, if a cue is all that WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO SELL IT!!!!!!!!!!:thumbup:

I am kinda getting tired of reading thought the for sale / for trade threads and seeing this Bullshit. Don't people realize that all they are doing is endorsing a Cue / Cue Maker that they really don't like? Then to add insult to injury many claim that they really do not want to sell it, but they really need the $300 or $400 right now or that they have too cues and the wife says a few have to go. Here again who is going to sell the best hitting cue they ever owned:confused:


I think it would be refreshing if people were just honest, and said something like this is nice cue, but it is just not for me, now is that so hard??? Now I know that if all the Bullshit is not added you think that you may not get a response, well I doubt that all the bullshit really effects anything except how others view you when they read your thread.;) !!!!!!!:yeah :grin-devilish:

Lets face it people Honesty is the best policy, and the long and short of it all is that you are really fooling no one anyway, well except maybe yourself!!!!!:smile:
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Rep for you Manwon.
Lately I am very tired of all the BS and all the monsters for sale especially when cues change 3 owners or more per month...
WTS/WTT What I would like to add is the best hitting Monster I have ever seen, it is for sale or for trade pm me with offers.

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The Incredible Hulk. That's what I call a the best hitting Monster ever lol.
 
I don't like cues that hit like a "monster". I have too many holes in the sheet rock as it is. Not to mention the cost of broken rails and pockets.

I like my cues to hit like I ask them too therefore I generally get rid if of the ones that run wild and out of control.

Respecfully , I will continue to list cues as monsters players if it applies. :) Consider it a fair warning.
 
monster thread, hits a ton!(grin)

manwon said:
I think it would be refreshing if people were just honest, and said something like this is nice cue, but it is just not for me, now is that so hard??? Now I know that if all the Bullshit is not added you think that you may not get a response, well I doubt that all the bullshit really effects anything except how others view you when they read your thread.;) !!!!!!!:yeah :grin-devilish:

Lets face it people Honesty is the best policy, and the long and short of it all is that you are really fooling no one anyway, well except maybe yourself!!!!!:smile:
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Craig,

Dropped my keyboard in the middle of repping you so the note might look a little funny!

I guess it just wouldn't be selling if folks didn't try to put a little sugar coating on top of whatever they are selling but my eyes automatically slide past the buzz words unless there is too much BS. Folks that routinely post the same BS, doesn't matter if they are selling a Gus or an Eddie, I quit even reading their ad's after awhile. When someone sells a lot of cues and every one is "the greatest cue ever" either they are full of bull or so unknowledgeable that their opinion is meaningless.

Hu
 
I knew before your last post here craig that everyone was going to focus on the "hit" of the cue instead of what I think you were really getting at.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your peeve is about, simply put, marketing. After thinking about it, unless someone is selling an elite cue (searing, hercek, gina etc) where it's only necessary to post a picture, age, weight and price, all the other cues are competing against eachother in what is now, a tough market. Sellers, BY HUMAN NATURE, will try to offer their goods, whatever they may be (cell phones, tvs, or cues), by gaining the slightest advantage, either through advertising or price.

In the end, it's just humannature to want to sell your goods. It's ok in my mind, as long as there is no fraud or real misrepresentation. Buyers still have the final say and it's always caveat emptor.

Rg
 
This is a monster hitting thread.....I mean, I have never had a thread that hit this well....unfortunately, I just have to sell it, I got too many threads already, enough to make a sweater, or I'd keep it....cause it's Monster...

Oh, and the points....they are so sharp, you could cut a pool table in half....and the woods, the grain is "one of a kind".....it comes from the perfect grain tree, it was just enough to build just one cue, all are second best....

The metal joint was made from metals out of a mine in japan....the same metal Honda uses to make race engines....and the shaft....it's so flexible you could bend it into a pretzel, yet it has a stiff hit....but not too stiff, just how you like it....

I think I get the concept, you Monster you :D
 
Hi!!!!!

Billy Mays here

selling this fantastic cue

best hitting cue ever made and the best that i have ever played with

hits like a freight train

hits a ton

can draw the cb the lenght of the table

run many racks

first one ever made like it

extremely rare

don't make them like this any more because they are too hard to make

have a letter of authenticity

best looking cue that i have ever seen

be the envy of ever pool player

straight as a arrow

perfectly balanced

hot rodded

tricked up

leather tip

real wood

fits in any cue case

can be use right or left handed

all for the fantatic price of $19.99 plus s & h

but wait there is more

if you order now we will throw in an extra shaft

and if that ain't enough you will also get this case

if you are also one of the first 25 you will also get this cue holder and piece of chalk

order yours today

if you order in the next 60 minutes you will get these joint protectors.

Most of those cues that are bieng resold is because of all the hype that is generated here on AZ about certain cues. Someone buys one and finds out that it is really a POS so they resell it trying to get there money back and also make a little profit. The only way to do it is to continue the hype. You will also notice that these cues are in the range $1000 to $1500 which is about the normal range of someone wanting to take a chance and be still be able to flip it.
 
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It's ok to say "it's not for me", but it won't work to say "this cue doesn't hit well" b/c nobody will want to buy it. The buyer is over the internet and has no physical impression of the cue.

It's like saying you're unattractive on a personal ad. You'll get zero hits.
 
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