Promoted by a true professional as well.... Good on you, mate!
Hotel Kick-backs to Tournament Promoters
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Promoted by a true professional as well.... Good on you, mate!
Fran -- someone's credentials have no relation to being a nit or not.
Personally, I could care less if a room rate is discounted or inflated, who gets what percentage (or not). I ask how much the room price is and I make a decision to stay there or not. If I feel I can negotiate a discount somehow, I do. End of story.
Personally, I could care less if a room rate is discounted or inflated, who gets what percentage (or not). I ask how much the room price is and I make a decision to stay there or not. If I feel I can negotiate a discount somehow, I do. End of story.
The price of roses almost double on Valentines week also. Dont like it? Dont buy roses that week. A lot of things that people complain about have simple solutions, but people would rather feel justified in their complaints by recruiting an army of like minded complainers.
Chuck
Chuck
Pryor to the running of the Kentucky Derby horse race, the Motel 6 in Clarksville, IN charges $39.95 a night for a single person. The week Pryor to the Kentucky Derby, the rates jump to $175.95 a night for that same single room. I know, I've been there and can say for sure, no one is going to find a room for under $100 a night, even in a nasty motel!!!
Thats funny, cause, when we go out of town to play, our LO will reserve a block of rooms at a couple of reasonable hotels and pass the savings onto the players.
Sure, he may get a room compted at one of them for himself, but why not.
He has to pay for the long distance calls, arranging, and has to be able to fill the rooms.
An extra hassle for himself on top of everything else that he does. I walk in, give my name and they hand me a key card. I give them a credit card for am imprint and get a total when I leave. Takes all of about 5 minutes of my time.
Less hassle for myself.
Sure, he may get a room compted at one of them for himself, but why not.
He has to pay for the long distance calls, arranging, and has to be able to fill the rooms.
An extra hassle for himself on top of everything else that he does. I walk in, give my name and they hand me a key card. I give them a credit card for am imprint and get a total when I leave. Takes all of about 5 minutes of my time.
Less hassle for myself.
I can vouch for RKC's point. In towns across American, large and small, I've been subject to outrageous rate increases because of "special events", where normally the room rate is 25% of the inflated "special event" rate. Sometimes you can't even drive out far enough to save anything.
I was up in ND one time, for some lessons, and there was a huge C&W concert, in conjunction with a big annual event that draws 100K people annually (all I remember is it starts with an "H"). There wasn't a room to even be had, for any amount, within 100 miles of Bismark.
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
I was up in ND one time, for some lessons, and there was a huge C&W concert, in conjunction with a big annual event that draws 100K people annually (all I remember is it starts with an "H"). There wasn't a room to even be had, for any amount, within 100 miles of Bismark.
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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Fran Crimi hasbeen around pool for many years.
But this thread was pointless and very misleading.
Fran should know better.
You cannot take a small factoid out of the countless items required to make a successful event occur. That is a recipe for false assumptions and possible disaster. Your assumption is no longer valid - everything has changed in the last few years. Ask the BCA - they wrote a 6 figure check for not meeting a room block about 7 years ago!
I'm calling BS.
Mark Griffin
Fran Crimi hasbeen around pool for many years.
But this thread was pointless and very misleading.
Fran should know better.
You cannot take a small factoid out of the countless items required to make a successful event occur. That is a recipe for false assumptions and possible disaster. Your assumption is no longer valid - everything has changed in the last few years. Ask the BCA - they wrote a 6 figure check for not meeting a room block about 7 years ago!
I'm calling BS.
Mark Griffin
Fran, that is not the current model.
Yes a big event means more profit, but it also means more costs for more staff for cleaning, cooking, serving, security, and so on. And the hotels, particularly the casinos want a promoter to sign contracts guaranteeing rooms, and food and beverage sales.
So, that's the way it is nowadays. A big event means a big hotel bill and in all likelihood the "kickback" the promoter is getting is just a block of rooms for event personnel and perhaps a few other concessions. It's tough because if the promoter doesn't meet the guarantees they're on the hook for the shortfall.
High prices for big events is standard practice. Recently I looked into a room at the Marriott Marquee on Times Square for New Years. Rooms that usually go for $300 were over a thousand, and that wasn't even on the side of the building facing Times Square
Lou Figueroa
the system
Fran,
You have a legitimate beef here.
What you have uncovered is part of the basis for a critique of capitalism as an economic system.
NOBODY knows the actual figures because there is no transparencies. Everything is secret and everybody is mum. What are they afraid of? If people knew the truth would they be as supportive of these events?
I would offer this as an interesting inquiry into something that has been a secret for a long, long time.
Popman.
Fran,
You have a legitimate beef here.
What you have uncovered is part of the basis for a critique of capitalism as an economic system.
NOBODY knows the actual figures because there is no transparencies. Everything is secret and everybody is mum. What are they afraid of? If people knew the truth would they be as supportive of these events?
I would offer this as an interesting inquiry into something that has been a secret for a long, long time.
Popman.
That's not the correct test of this.
Rather than finding out the normal price for that time of year without the event - which would be impossible anyway - just call and get a price without mentioning the event.
It would be awful if a promoter told you to mention the event and then the hotel charged you more. Of course prices are higher when there's a big event. But that's different from what you're claiming. I don't believe it, and "everything I say is true because I'm Fran" is almost male in its laughable arrogance.
I would check the rate with the promo code or event rate and see what it is and also check the rate without it. At times there can be a difference and I am sure promoters do make money from rooms but they should be making money because they have invested monies and put lots of time and work into it. A casino gives money to events based on people showing up and booking rooms. I look at Vegas for instance and how people go to Circus-Circus for the cheapest room possible instead of staying at the host venue, support the venue that is supporting the event instead of trying to save a few bucks.
Dear god, please make the stupid stop!
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Translation please ????....Why do I care ????.... Just curious !...Coco, you cannot possibly talk, like you try to write. :banghead:
PS.This may be a new record for you !..In only ONE sentence, 3 misspelled words, and 4 misplaced punctuation marks
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Old Nine Baller
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I think the answer almost every time is, yes the price is inflated. But, I never gave much thought as to the who or why behind the increase. I just know most places within a half hour of a major event charge more. Nobody likes it, but what can you do? It's kinda like paying 5 bucks for a hot dog at a yankees game.
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Any of you guys complaining about price ever heard of supply and demand. I'm fine paying more to stay on site at a big tournament. It's well worth it after long day's on your feet and if some of that is going to The promoter great! The more money they make the more likely they'll want to put in the work to promote another tournament.
Old Nine Baller
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When people start threads like this, it would make more sense if they threw in some facts to back up what they're saying, instead of spending hours on guessing what's going on, instead of KNOW ING what's really happening
When people write posts like this it would make more sense if they threw in some facts to back-up what they're saying. Hmmmmmmmmm.
P.S. It was the 3 ball.
P.Ps. Shane never picked up the cueball.
realkingcobra said:
Now that ONB has clarified Coco's post for me,...I must admit, that Coco has a slightly better grasp of the situation than
Ms. Crimi seems to have ! :sorry:...As far as sensible logic, and life in the real world, just put me in the Fast Lenny or Mark Griffin camp !...Who would know better ?
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