I have a question that is begging to be answered?

May the 4th, missed it by 1 day

A customer list sooooo long only part due to the quality of the work, but also the pleasant demeanor.

Crabi-Wan Kenobi has taught you well.

Give me a brass joint 4 piece cue and honeycomb bed Sears table any day...
 
Sounds like you own one of them piece of shit pool tables I'm talking about, and your feelings got hurt because somewhere in the back of your mind you were thinking about sending me a PM asking me to fix it up to play like a Diamond....LMFAO

I don't own a table at all. I would rather go out a few nights a week and support my local hall so this sport doesn't die. I play the same on any table so going to bars and pool halls doesn't affect my game. I play on Diamonds and Valley's.
 
Yes, sometimes I make an exception to my rules about some of the tables I choose to work on, but that decision is based more on the customer than the table. I just finished working on an AZB members pool table in Ft. Collins, CO. It had only had 2 cloths installed on it during the ownership of the table from new, and when I took it apart 8 out of 18 rail bolts were either missing because they were left out, the threads in the t-nuts' were cross threaded, broken off, and stripped. So, I used my hole saw and drilled out all 18 t-nut' anchors, removed the hole plug, replaced the wood wot new poplar wood plugs, the drilled them out and installed the threaded inserts I use to attach the rails. I also replaced the soft pocket facings with 3/16th 60 durometer neoprene, which eliminates 95% of the pocket rattle on an Olhausen, I also re leveled the slates....because he had been waiting on me I think for 3-4 years to get in his area. His name is Bruce, and Dr. Dave lives near him and has played on his table.

Thats me.

Thanks again Glen for coming and doing my table. It plays great and it was worth the wait.

To answer your original question, I think people pay attention to their cues and ignore their tables because they think that there is nothing more about setting up a table than the slates being level and the cloth being tight.

Like most, i bought my particular table because of its looks. I figured the playing surface was pretty standard, and i assumed that once at a certain price point, the playing surface had to be good as the next table. I thought anybody could put a table together if they were strong enough to handle the slates. I had never heard of anyone talking about tables in terms of playability, just aesthetics.


Unfortunately, in northern colorado, there is nobody who even cares about making a table play good, they just want to do a basic relevel or recover and be on their way. Thats why I called Glen every month for the last 4 years.

If I didnt play on my table so much, hadnt read AZB so much, and care so much about improving my game, I never would have known the difference.






The ***** of it now is that I cant blame my equipment anymore. :grin-square:
 
Why are there so many AZ members that are such experts on cues, tips, chalk....sparing no expense when it comes to going after and getting that THING of value to you, sometimes even waiting years and years to get that cue you want. Talking about ever use tip to hit the market, even to the point of nit picking it to death, right along with the newest crazy chalk....BUT, when it comes to your pool table (s) most of you, and I'm not saying all of you, BUT most of you don't give a shit about checking out the person's work, and if they're any good at their job....yet you'll hire them unchecked? And further more, a lot of you own pool tables I wouldn't even consider working on as a lot of them are just not worth the investment. ...yet, there it is, right there....surrounded by your $$$$$$$$'$ of dollars worth of of cues?....I mean, not only do a lot of you not own a Diamond pool table, you don't even own a Gold Crown....why is the most important part of this game the deciding factor as to where you cheap out with the money?

You have correctly identified me regarding my table. My excuse for having a subpar A E Schmidt is because when I bought it I didn't know anything about pool tables and I would probably have to give it away or sell at a big loss - and I have a wife who thinks it is a perfectly good pool table. My first cue which I bought the same time as this table had a screw on tip. I had no idea what I was doing.

If I could find a Diamond at a reasonable price I'd probably run the risk of starting a feud with my wife to buy it - and I'd have you set it up if you are available but I doubt that will happen.
 
For the amount of money that some folks spend on _________ , I would just have a custom table built from scratch.
 
From what I have seen AE Schmidts are actually one of the top American made tables in the US...opinions Glenn? I'm not comparing to like a gold crown of course...but comparing it to a bunch of other tables available where would you rate it?

My wife's parents are going to be buying a table and we actually have it narrowed down to Olhausen and AE Schmidt as other tables are outside of their budget.
 
I agree with you 100%, but I still find it hard to believe that some table owners can be such experts in some areas, yet fall flat on their face in other areas. With pool tables being such a huge part of this game, they just seem to be the most over looked as well.

Why do we need to be experts at pool tables when there are people like you out there??
 
So is my 1964 AMF Grand Prix on the list of tables you would or wouldn't work on? Is it a turd? Also is it a bad thing to have original pocket sizes?
 
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My opinion is that most buyers/owners have no idea what goes into a table as far as service goes. The owner assumes the mechanic knows what they are doing. Also the table owner will shop for price or deal with a mechanic that sounds like they know what they are talking about. I have been though this. I am an educated owner. I will only deal with a highly recommended tech. Plus the unknown service person can be a hacker and kill the table. When they come back to straighten things out it becomes hack part 2.
 
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Thats me.

Thanks again Glen for coming and doing my table. It plays great and it was worth the wait.

To answer your original question, I think people pay attention to their cues and ignore their tables because they think that there is nothing more about setting up a table than the slates being level and the cloth being tight.

Like most, i bought my particular table because of its looks. I figured the playing surface was pretty standard, and i assumed that once at a certain price point, the playing surface had to be good as the next table. I thought anybody could put a table together if they were strong enough to handle the slates. I had never heard of anyone talking about tables in terms of playability, just aesthetics.


Unfortunately, in northern colorado, there is nobody who even cares about making a table play good, they just want to do a basic relevel or recover and be on their way. Thats why I called Glen every month for the last 4 years.

If I didnt play on my table so much, hadnt read AZB so much, and care so much about improving my game, I never would have known the difference.






The ***** of it now is that I cant blame my equipment anymore. :grin-square:
And....when the cloth breaks in, I don't want to hear about how tight them damn, pockets are, I only tightened them up by an 1/8th" because of replacing the facings.....:thumbup:
 
Cobra, Real King-

Help me because I am a complete idiot when it comes to tables. I will end up with one and I would probably go with a Diamond, but only because the tables I play on are Diamonds. I remember Gandi, Mali (?), GC, etc., but I don't remember how they played.

Can you please educate me as to why a Diamond is the best table (is it?)? What makes a table good vs. poor?

Diamond builds one hell of a commercial grade pool table, so DID Brunswick, have yet to see a GC6, but I don't think I'll be much impressed with the table because of the price tag that is going to be coming with it:rolleyes:

Home style pool tables have been and always will be for the most part, a woman's choice of pool table because it's sold on looks, not playability. The difference between good and poor pool tables is a long list, to long to write out here.
 
From what I have seen AE Schmidts are actually one of the top American made tables in the US...opinions Glenn? I'm not comparing to like a gold crown of course...but comparing it to a bunch of other tables available where would you rate it?

My wife's parents are going to be buying a table and we actually have it narrowed down to Olhausen and AE Schmidt as other tables are outside of their budget.

Personally, I wouldn't own one.
 
Cobra, Real King-

Help me because I am a complete idiot when it comes to tables. I will end up with one and I would probably go with a Diamond, but only because the tables I play on are Diamonds. I remember Gandi, Mali (?), GC, etc., but I don't remember how they played.

Can you please educate me as to why a Diamond is the best table (is it?)? What makes a table good vs. poor?

A diamond table has heavier rails which makes for a more solid and consistent rebound. They also have a thicker slate. GC is an inch which is about 26mm and a diamond is 30mm. The mass difference is noticeable along with the heavier rails. Most importantly they were designed to play pool on. You can lay your cue on any spot 360 degrees around the thing and make a bridge at any angle required to execute your best stroke with a smooth spot to rest your cue on. Gold Crowns have a lot of obstacles you have to bridge around from the raised metal corner irons to the ball counters on the foot rail. You frequently have to make a less than ideal bridge to avoid scuffing your cue shaft. Sometimes you fail and your shaft suffers for it. I loved my Gold Crown but I have not missed it for a second since I got my Diamond.

JC
 
GCs

I've always said there's no such thing as a bad GC, only the work that has done on them in the past. I can work on any pool table out here, but I prefer Diamonds or GCs'.

Ithought you said they all came with bad pockets from the factory??
 
So is my 1964 AMF Grand Prix on the list of tables you would or wouldn't work on? Is it a turd? Also is it a bad thing to have original pocket sizes?

Yes, I'd work on it....if I were hungry enough, but seeing how I just finished a 20 T-bone, steak, baked potato, salad, and asparagus, I'm kind of full right now....LOL There's nothing wrong with buckets for pockets....a lot of these AZ members would miss balls in them too:thumbup:
 
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