Sounds like you own one of them piece of shit pool tables I'm talking about, and your feelings got hurt because somewhere in the back of your mind you were thinking about sending me a PM asking me to fix it up to play like a Diamond....LMFAO
Yes, sometimes I make an exception to my rules about some of the tables I choose to work on, but that decision is based more on the customer than the table. I just finished working on an AZB members pool table in Ft. Collins, CO. It had only had 2 cloths installed on it during the ownership of the table from new, and when I took it apart 8 out of 18 rail bolts were either missing because they were left out, the threads in the t-nuts' were cross threaded, broken off, and stripped. So, I used my hole saw and drilled out all 18 t-nut' anchors, removed the hole plug, replaced the wood wot new poplar wood plugs, the drilled them out and installed the threaded inserts I use to attach the rails. I also replaced the soft pocket facings with 3/16th 60 durometer neoprene, which eliminates 95% of the pocket rattle on an Olhausen, I also re leveled the slates....because he had been waiting on me I think for 3-4 years to get in his area. His name is Bruce, and Dr. Dave lives near him and has played on his table.
Why are there so many AZ members that are such experts on cues, tips, chalk....sparing no expense when it comes to going after and getting that THING of value to you, sometimes even waiting years and years to get that cue you want. Talking about ever use tip to hit the market, even to the point of nit picking it to death, right along with the newest crazy chalk....BUT, when it comes to your pool table (s) most of you, and I'm not saying all of you, BUT most of you don't give a shit about checking out the person's work, and if they're any good at their job....yet you'll hire them unchecked? And further more, a lot of you own pool tables I wouldn't even consider working on as a lot of them are just not worth the investment. ...yet, there it is, right there....surrounded by your $$$$$$$$'$ of dollars worth of of cues?....I mean, not only do a lot of you not own a Diamond pool table, you don't even own a Gold Crown....why is the most important part of this game the deciding factor as to where you cheap out with the money?
I agree with you 100%, but I still find it hard to believe that some table owners can be such experts in some areas, yet fall flat on their face in other areas. With pool tables being such a huge part of this game, they just seem to be the most over looked as well.
I've got 6 kids, that don't apply to me:embarrassed2:
Because you can't carry the table with you to show it off in the local pool hall![]()
And....when the cloth breaks in, I don't want to hear about how tight them damn, pockets are, I only tightened them up by an 1/8th" because of replacing the facings.....:thumbup:Thats me.
Thanks again Glen for coming and doing my table. It plays great and it was worth the wait.
To answer your original question, I think people pay attention to their cues and ignore their tables because they think that there is nothing more about setting up a table than the slates being level and the cloth being tight.
Like most, i bought my particular table because of its looks. I figured the playing surface was pretty standard, and i assumed that once at a certain price point, the playing surface had to be good as the next table. I thought anybody could put a table together if they were strong enough to handle the slates. I had never heard of anyone talking about tables in terms of playability, just aesthetics.
Unfortunately, in northern colorado, there is nobody who even cares about making a table play good, they just want to do a basic relevel or recover and be on their way. Thats why I called Glen every month for the last 4 years.
If I didnt play on my table so much, hadnt read AZB so much, and care so much about improving my game, I never would have known the difference.
The ***** of it now is that I cant blame my equipment anymore. :grin-square:
Cobra, Real King-
Help me because I am a complete idiot when it comes to tables. I will end up with one and I would probably go with a Diamond, but only because the tables I play on are Diamonds. I remember Gandi, Mali (?), GC, etc., but I don't remember how they played.
Can you please educate me as to why a Diamond is the best table (is it?)? What makes a table good vs. poor?
For the amount of money that some folks spend on _________ , I would just have a custom table built from scratch.
From what I have seen AE Schmidts are actually one of the top American made tables in the US...opinions Glenn? I'm not comparing to like a gold crown of course...but comparing it to a bunch of other tables available where would you rate it?
My wife's parents are going to be buying a table and we actually have it narrowed down to Olhausen and AE Schmidt as other tables are outside of their budget.
Cobra, Real King-
Help me because I am a complete idiot when it comes to tables. I will end up with one and I would probably go with a Diamond, but only because the tables I play on are Diamonds. I remember Gandi, Mali (?), GC, etc., but I don't remember how they played.
Can you please educate me as to why a Diamond is the best table (is it?)? What makes a table good vs. poor?
I've always said there's no such thing as a bad GC, only the work that has done on them in the past. I can work on any pool table out here, but I prefer Diamonds or GCs'.
So is my 1964 AMF Grand Prix on the list of tables you would or wouldn't work on? Is it a turd? Also is it a bad thing to have original pocket sizes?
Ithought you said they all came with bad pockets from the factory??