If you live in the SouthWest beware of this HUSTLER.

Andrew Manning said:
Even with your definition, you're still most likely incorrect. If his "big score" was $100 at the most, and he didn't make any attempt at driving that number up or keeping his fish on the line, then he doesn't make a living playing pool, nor was he likely "travelling from room to room" searching for marks to be relieved of their money. To me, he sounds like a good pool player who found himself in a pool room, and wanted to match up with somebody. You've just described half the people on this board :rolleyes:

-Andrew
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Black-Balled: guilty as charged. Warning to all, He has a new job that requires travel. Will not hustle, but plays for $ and does not come to donate.
 
Black-Balled said:
Black-Balled: guilty as charged. Warning to all, He has a new job that requires travel. Will not hustle, but plays for $ and does not come to donate.
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.... you sneaky HUSTLER!!! :p
 
Bob Jewett said:
PS, I think you got a major part wrong. If the guy had been a real pool hustler, he wouldn't have squished the guy like a rotten fig. They would still be playing and all of the bar would be betting on the other guy. 100 bucks doesn't even pay for dinner on the road.
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I guess you slept through the first part of The Hustler, or maybe you don't understand setups yet. :D

Cheers, WW
 
ShootingArts said:
Here is what I think pretty much everyone is trying to tell you:

A. There was no hustle involved. The guy was not hustling and based on what you have said can't be defined as a hustler.

B. No need for anyone out of three cornered pants to beware of someone that comes at you head on for fairly small stakes like this guy did.

I don't doubt that the guy makes a good bit of money the way he plays and gambles. However he is gambling(risking losing also) and from your report giving people an honest game. Few here expect more than that from a stranger passing through.

Hu
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Plus, why knock someones action who has noting to do with you?
 
Island Drive said:
Plus, why knock someones action who has noting to do with you?
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Because he has nothing better to do and does not understand pool hall or gambling etiquette in the least.
 
I really do know exactly who this guy is. He's from Texas but he is not from Houston.

I'm not a pool room detective, so I won't be giving out details in the public forum, but if you want details PM me.

He's a fascinating and complex character.
 
McKinneyMiner said:
I really do know exactly who this guy is. He's from Texas but he is not from Houston.

I'm not a pool room detective, so I won't be giving out details in the public forum, but if you want details PM me.

He's a fascinating and complex character.
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I believe it is Fat Ralph/Ralph Cortez. He has been around Texas for awhile and is well known. Usually always with his son. Always plays with a duct taped sneaky. Plays very strong! I have played him at the BCA state tournements on a few occasions and also at the fast eddies tourneys. Very interesting guy to say the least, that is if we are talking about the same person.
 
Damn these hustlers are getting around, Last week I had some stranger come into the pool hall, and started asking people if they wanted to gamble, everyone backed down but me. I dont even hafta ask for weight he just gives me the Breaks and the last 4. And i get raped 5 sets in a row 7-1,7-1,7-1,7-1,7-1 !!!!!!!!!

You guys better watch out for him, he uses a house cue but has a sledgehammer break! I think he said his name was Vince or Vincent or something with a smoking hot GF. And every freaking time Werewolfs of London played he started to twirl his cue around like a mad man, and just made a ass outa himself, but it was kinda amusing.

But yea everyone should watch out for this guy!!!!! oh yea, he looked about 22yrs old or so, kinda young,, black hair, leather jacket, and always wore a shirt with Vince on it.

dave
 
sicbinature said:
I believe it is Fat Ralph/Ralph Cortez. He has been around Texas for awhile and is well known. Usually always with his son. Always plays with a duct taped sneaky. Plays very strong! I have played him at the BCA state tournements on a few occasions and also at the fast eddies tourneys. Very interesting guy to say the least, that is if we are talking about the same person.
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Knock Knock Knock Knock Knock
 
McKinneyMiner said:
I really do know exactly who this guy is. He's from Texas but he is not from Houston.

I'm not a pool room detective, so I won't be giving out details in the public forum, but if you want details PM me.

He's a fascinating and complex character.
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I'm gonna tell you the most amazing thing about him... He is the only person on this planet I've heard of, to kicked out of a Chinese Buffet. They also kicked his wife and son out. The 3 of them go about 1100 lbs.
 
ironman said:
I'm gonna tell you the most amazing thing about him... He is the only person on this planet I've heard of, to kicked out of a Chinese Buffet. They also kicked his wife and son out. The 3 of them go about 1100 lbs.
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A couple of guys I know were given their money back at an 'all-you-can-eat'. Guy told them in wasn't a 'can-you-eat-it-all?'.
 
StormHotRod300 said:
Damn these hustlers are getting around, Last week I had some stranger come into the pool hall, and started asking people if they wanted to gamble, everyone backed down but me. I dont even hafta ask for weight he just gives me the Breaks and the last 4. And i get raped 5 sets in a row 7-1,7-1,7-1,7-1,7-1 !!!!!!!!!

You guys better watch out for him, he uses a house cue but has a sledgehammer break! I think he said his name was Vince or Vincent or something with a smoking hot GF. And every freaking time Werewolfs of London played he started to twirl his cue around like a mad man, and just made a ass outa himself, but it was kinda amusing.

But yea everyone should watch out for this guy!!!!! oh yea, he looked about 22yrs old or so, kinda young,, black hair, leather jacket, and always wore a shirt with Vince on it.

dave
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Did he give you a game on the wire too?:D
 
Q: Do you know where this giant of a man shoots pool?

A: Yes. Whereever he wants
 
PoolSleuth said:
I will try to make a Long Story as short as Possible. Tuesday night I was in a BAR in PHX (area) Arizona Playing a Tournament, I was waiting with my Tea between Rounds (my turn to Play), as I do not DRINK Adult Beverage, and try and Play when Prizes are involved.

I notice these (2) Asian Players who were both very good players IMO at the other end of the Room, and as I had time to killed, and had done my home work on my potential opponent I wondered down to the other end of the room. to watch the (2) better players at 9 Ball

Sitting on a BAR Stool also watching was one of the Largest Men I have ever encountered, and I really did not pay much attention to him. He casually asked “do you play pool for money, and I replied that I did not play at his level, and was awaiting my turn in the Tournament at the other end of the room.

Nothing more was said, and a few minutes later the HUSTLER got up as apparently he found is Fish. I will describe the guy as Unkempt, with Messy Hair, and a Face like the Famous Wrestler André the Giant. As I said he was BIG, maybe 6'0"- to 6'3", and I would say he weighted in at 450-500 Pounds.

Well the Hustler and the other guy had a bet of maybe 50-100 Bucks for a 9 Ball Set of a Race to 7. The Hustler took home the money, as the Race ended 7 to 1. With in only a few monute of its start.

What impressed me most about the HUSTLER was how a Man of this SIZE could move around a Bar Box like a Ballerina on a Tightrope, and Played Nine Ball better than most I have seen.

As I said if you run into this guy and his two companions, (1) a Sharp Dressing Asian Fellow (I assume he was the Body Guard/Musel), and another White guy that is pretty Non Descriptive (who was the Money Man & Cue Valet) Beware of the Big Guy with the Sneak Pete with DUCK TAPE on the Butt of his Cue, as he is looking to take you money.

Am not sure if I saw his BEST GAME, but like I said beware of the Big Guy who, Played Nine Ball better than most I have seen.

If you do not know who do not know was André the Giant , study these images.

http://images.google.com/images?q=andre+the+giant&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images
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PoolSleuth.....you need to change your name to pooldetective or poolknit. It's people like you in the pool world that need to sell your cues and take up another hobby. I have played pool since i was 15 years old and i think it's safe to say that people like you are ruining this game. We don't have glamour on t.v. and we will never have an olympic team...so let us at least try to preserve the one thing most of us all fell in love with. The "seedy" side of pool i think most would agree. Not saying you have to let your friends get "trapped" by somebody, but honestly, what do you have to benefit from posting that bs on here? Hopefully, you don't run into this guy again with him knowing that you have knocked his action across the whole country or world as far as that goes.

Like i said....you really should take up another hobby.
 
> The next time this guy shows up anywhere now,he will get mobbed by a small group of do-gooders that will subdue him. They will pull the mask off the back of his head,and find Nick Varner in an elaborate disguise,and one of the group will say "ZOINKS!",to which Nick will respond "...and I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for these meddling kids!" Tommy D.
 
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