James Walden is looking for a house pro job

[deanoc]

I suggest a money game between James Walden and Scott Lee

it would indeed be interesting to see what James would bring to the table

My guess is that James would have no trouble bringing $5000 or more to the table

Sure seems like James has the right credentials

 

[Black-Balled]

I suggest a money game between James Walden and Scott Lee

it would indeed be interesting to see what James would bring to the table

My guess is that James would have no trouble bringing $5000 or more to the table

Sure seems like James has the right credentials

that is a great idea.
then we could give both all our retirement savings and...

 

[(((Satori)))]

I suggest a money game between James Walden and Scott Lee

it would indeed be interesting to see what James would bring to the table

My guess is that James would have no trouble bringing $5000 or more to the table

Sure seems like James has the right credentials

What's the spot? I might like a little side action but I think it would be hard to find anyone to bet on the "house pro" Scott Lee. (It's laughable that Scott would even mention he was a house pro in this thread)



As for James, I will always have some great memories about James.

I remember when an up and coming player, who eventually won the US 9-ball open, was joking about another player because the other guy had recently lost to James while getting the six ball and the up and comer went on to say how no one could give him the six ball. James asked him how much money he wanted to bet and the up and comer said he had a little over seven thousand dollars. James said, in a way that only James can, "kid for seven thousand I can't give you the six ball, I'd have to give you the six and the last four." the up and comer couldn't get the balls fast enough, the up and comer played the game, and the up and comer lost.

 

[Luther Blissett]

James said, in a way that only James can, "kid for seven thousand I can't give you the six ball, I'd have to give you the six and the last four." the up and comer couldn't get the balls fast enough, the up and comer played the game, and the up and comer lost.

Surely it would have been "kid for seven thousand I can't give you the six ball, I'd have to give you the six and the last three."

I mean in 9-ball after the six there is only the seven, eight, and nine. Six plus four is ten. I take no pleasure from being a pedant, but this feels like a puzzle to me, so I'd like to know if I've made a silly mistake somewhere along the line, or if really he said three instead of four.

 

[JumpinJoe]

Surely it would have been "kid for seven thousand I can't give you the six ball, I'd have to give you the six and the last three."

I mean in 9-ball after the six there is only the seven, eight, and nine. Six plus four is ten. I take no pleasure from being a pedant, but this feels like a puzzle to me, so I'd like to know if I've made a silly mistake somewhere along the line, or if really he said three instead of four.

6 and the last 4 is probably what he said. If that's what the guy is quoting.

I seen it numerous times

 

[richiebalto]

Surely it would have been "kid for seven thousand I can't give you the six ball, I'd have to give you the six and the last three."

I mean in 9-ball after the six there is only the seven, eight, and nine. Six plus four is ten. I take no pleasure from being a pedant, but this feels like a puzzle to me, so I'd like to know if I've made a silly mistake somewhere along the line, or if really he said three instead of four.

YOU CAN SPOT SOMEONE THE 6 AND last 4, Walden breaks the balls and pockets the 6 ball, then misses and the player being spotted runs up to the 5 ball, he makes the 5 and wins the game, that would be the 6 and last 4!

If some how the 7 and 8 are not on the table, then the man getting 6 and last 4 would win if he made the 4 ball as long as after making the 4 ball there was only 3 balls left on the table! i hope you understand this, its the best way i can think of explaining it!

 

[Luther Blissett]

YOU CAN SPOT SOMEONE THE 6 AND last 4, Walden breaks the balls and pockets the 6 ball, then misses and the player being spotted runs up to the 5 ball, he makes the 5 and wins the game, that would be the 6 and last 4!

If some how the 7 and 8 are not on the table, then the man getting 6 and last 4 would win if he made the 4 ball as long as after making the 4 ball there was only 3 balls left on the table! i hope you understand this, its the best way i can think of explaining it!

Lol, I'll read it again when I've had some sleep. :thumbup:

 

[(((Satori)))]

Surely it would have been "kid for seven thousand I can't give you the six ball, I'd have to give you the six and the last three."

I mean in 9-ball after the six there is only the seven, eight, and nine. Six plus four is ten. I take no pleasure from being a pedant, but this feels like a puzzle to me, so I'd like to know if I've made a silly mistake somewhere along the line, or if really he said three instead of four.

It was the 6 & last 4.

Richies post explains the spot well.

 

[easy-e]

It was the 6 & last 4.

Richies post explains the spot well.

I still don't get it.

 

[elvicash]

Surely it would have been "kid for seven thousand I can't give you the six ball, I'd have to give you the six and the last three."

I mean in 9-ball after the six there is only the seven, eight, and nine. Six plus four is ten. I take no pleasure from being a pedant, but this feels like a puzzle to me, so I'd like to know if I've made a silly mistake somewhere along the line, or if really he said three instead of four.

you ain't much of a gambler are you. I mean why can''t he give him the 6 and the last four. That spot say if the player make the 6 or any ball when there are 4 or less balls on the table they win. You need to do a little more reading before you correct people and I would be will to bet you that James has given the 6 and the last four out more than a few times.

 

[JB Cases]

Satori I hate to disagree and I guess since one of the subjects in your story posted his phone number we could call him, but I kind of doubt that if James thought he could win with the six and he had a willing opponent ready to post 7 dimes that he would then give up more weight voluntarily.

 

[elvicash]

I suggest a money game between James Walden and Scott Lee

it would indeed be interesting to see what James would bring to the table

My guess is that James would have no trouble bringing $5000 or more to the table

Sure seems like James has the right credentials

Why are you being this way. Are you offering to put Scott Lee in action? I doubt it, would you do this in a real pool hall if you were standing by both of them, no you would not, someone might not like how you are acting but behind a keyboard you can bash whoever.

I reckon most poolrooms would be lucky to have wither Jame or Scott for a house pro, I think both would agree James has a higher gear, but Scott has probably taught more pool and ran more leagues than James. What do you think a golf pro does, get people together, do things to enhance the sport, play the game they are not all Tiger Woods speed.

Scott was just mentioning questions most room owners would ask during the interview. I think James will attract players and raise the quality of play. I hope he gets a job in the industry I will try to visit perhaps get some of his valuable time.

 

[easy-e]

Why are you being this way. Are you offering to put Scott Lee in action? I doubt it, would you do this in a real pool hall if you were standing by both of them, no you would not, someone might not like how you are acting but behind a keyboard you can bash whoever.

I reckon most poolrooms would be lucky to have wither Jame or Scott for a house pro, I think both would agree James has a higher gear, but Scott has probably taught more pool and ran more leagues than James. What do you think a golf pro does, get people together, do things to enhance the sport, play the game they are not all Tiger Woods speed.

Scott was just mentioning questions most room owners would ask during the interview. I think James will attract players and raise the quality of play. I hope he gets a job in the industry I will try to visit perhaps get some of his valuable time.

I have to agree. I'd love to go to a place with a player like James hanging around. I'd try to get everything I could out of the experience!

 

[Lock N Load]

YOU CAN SPOT SOMEONE THE 6 AND last 4, Walden breaks the balls and pockets the 6 ball, then misses and the player being spotted runs up to the 5 ball, he makes the 5 and wins the game, that would be the 6 and last 4!

If some how the 7 and 8 are not on the table, then the man getting 6 and last 4 would win if he made the 4 ball as long as after making the 4 ball there was only 3 balls left on the table! i hope you understand this, its the best way i can think of explaining it!

Richie,
James know what he said and that is what he meant! I talked to James at Buffalo Billiards, the worlds pool hall, last night. He just got back in town this week. When I was leaving he was playing a guy for some money, and they were not playing even! Tell them, Richie! The last 4 balls is the last 4 balls no matter what number is on them.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.

 

[lee brett]

I have asked on here numerous times about a house pro job, but never get any reply for any. With my track record, you'd think i would be offered a job somewhere.

I'm afraid pool is such a tough business there really ain't no jobs as a house pro, maybe free light is all you will get.

 

[JB Cases]

I have asked on here numerous times about a house pro job, but never get any reply for any. With my track record, you'd think i would be offered a job somewhere.

I'm afraid pool is such a tough business there really ain't no jobs as a house pro, maybe free light is all you will get.

As a former pool room owner I have to say that the position of house pro isn't always one that a pool room owner can afford. Now you might say how could they afford NOT to have a house pro?

But the simple fact is that it really depends a lot on the particular room and it's clientele as to whether a house pro would bring anything extra to the room to justify the expense. I personally wouldn't expect to pay a house pro less than $3000 a month and that's the low end. Will I make that expense back in increased business and product sales?

I think it kind of works more when the house pro is also a manager but that then doesn't always sit well with professional class players who aren't looking for a normal job.

Some kind of deal where there is a low base rate and they keep the money they make from lessons where the room gets the table time is also feasible.

Thing is you can't just advertise here and expect much of a response. I think the vast majority of room owners could care less about AZB so the chance that they even see an ad placed here is slim.

You really do need to have a solid pitch as to what you can bring to the room that justifies the expense. As I said above, a house pro done right can be awesome, done wrong it's just money thrown away and even worse creates negativity.

 

[(((Satori)))]

Satori I hate to disagree and I guess since one of the subjects in your story posted his phone number we could call him, but I kind of doubt that if James thought he could win with the six and he had a willing opponent ready to post 7 dimes that he would then givUe up more weight voluntarily.

The thought to give more weight does seem wild, which is why it's a good story, but it's true.

I never really thought about the reason because it just seemed like a natural thing that happened in that situation but maybe he wanted to teach a lesson to the young guy. I know he liked him. In fact, I also remember that when the set was over he did not leave the kid broke even though he had won all of his money.











James, I wish you success in your new pursuits.

 

[CJ Wiley]

the "5 and the last 5"

I suggest a money game between James Walden and Scott Lee

it would indeed be interesting to see what James would bring to the table

My guess is that James would have no trouble bringing $5000 or more to the table

Sure seems like James has the right credentials

We may have to explain the "5 and the last 5".

 

[CreeDo]

I'm blessed with a choice of like 5 good pool halls within reasonable driving distance.

If one of them got an actual pro-speed player that I could watch and learn from 3+ nights a week, the other 4 pool halls would probably never see me again.

The idea that this guy would be fetching beers and plunging toilets is kind of a shock to me. I always thought of a house pro as different from a standard counter employee. Guess I misunderstood.

There has to be some arrangement where he attracts enough in table time to cover his paycheck, even if all he does is hit balls. I'd cheerfully pay double table time to be able to play a pro, assuming he's willing to teach and offer advice, independent of any formal lengthy lesson.

 

[Scott Lee]

Thanks Dana! I don't know why when somebody asks an honest question about a "pro" player, it's automatically assumed that they are challenging the skill of the pro. I know James Walden is a top notch player. That has nothing to do with the question. There are are at least hundreds of 'pro' ability players out there who wish they could get a "job" as a house pro in a poolroom (not the least of which is Lee Brett, who is definitely qualified, and already posted here). Many of them think that just because they are highly skilled, that's all it takes (or all they are willing to provide), and that they should be handsomely compensated for their skill. As others have said, it takes a lot more than than that...not to mention the 'fit' between the player and room owner. I wish James the best, in his search...but as others already pointed out, it's a tough road to hoe, and even tougher to keep.

Scott Lee
http://poolknoweldge.com

Why are you being this way. Are you offering to put Scott Lee in action? I doubt it, would you do this in a real pool hall if you were standing by both of them, no you would not, someone might not like how you are acting but behind a keyboard you can bash whoever.

I reckon most poolrooms would be lucky to have wither Jame or Scott for a house pro, I think both would agree James has a higher gear, but Scott has probably taught more pool and ran more leagues than James. What do you think a golf pro does, get people together, do things to enhance the sport, play the game they are not all Tiger Woods speed.

Scott was just mentioning questions most room owners would ask during the interview. I think James will attract players and raise the quality of play. I hope he gets a job in the industry I will try to visit perhaps get some of his valuable time.