Let's Talk About Shane's Gambling Problem . . .

Ah, why not some pool player gambling stories?

Alex was playing poker in Vegas a few years ago.
He was one of two winners at the table.
The other winner got on Alex's case about how he played a hand.
He got nasty and threatening (subtly)....he weighed about 200 lbs.

Alex had enough, he stood up and said "Lets just step outside and
fight for our stacks."
The dealer had to call the pit-boss, who had to call security, who led
Alex over to cash his chips and then leave.
They were grinning at Alex and asked "Would you have really fought him?"

Alex said "What the hell, I could use the money."

Love it! It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.
 
I thought Shane was too nitty to go off in a casino? I'm being dead serious too. He's really kind of nitty in my opinion. I've gambled with him a couple different times. But then again I know a lot of nitty people that won't bet their alive at the poolroom but blow their dough left and right at the casinos. Really kind of strange. :thumbup:

I think SVB is probably fairly close to a millionaire, maybe not all liquid but I'm pretty sure he had a pool room, wins championships, and invests in condos. Not to mention sponsorship he gets paid for...plus like always, no one counts the wins!!!

I had a little spell were I went up about 50 then blew 10 one night and had people pulling me out the casino literally like staging an intervention, all I was thinking the whole time was where is my goose and red bull.

SVB is fine, if not, he'll just win the next tourney and bounce right back or put the smack down on Dennis lol.
 
Again. it is the role of the commentator to discuss issues pertinent to the players performance. They are often uncomfortable doing so, but it is their responsibility to do so.

bert
 
Again. it is the role of the commentator to discuss issues pertinent to the players performance. They are often uncomfortable doing so, but it is their responsibility to do so.

bert

then why don't they do it instead of simply making a snide comment then clamming up about it?

I will give Jay credit for tying in what he felt may be affecting shane's performance that night then backing off it out of what came across as respect.

He at least connected the dots for the viewers before changing the subject.

best,
brian kc
 
I have been listening on a number of the streams to quite a few veiled, and some less veiled references to Shane's going off in the casinos for big $$$.

I am met with a few emotions when hearing these, and, btw, the comments are from various guys, both on the Ultimate10b and now the Great Southern streams.

So, to be clear - *they* have made this public knowledge.

The two main feelings I have when hearing this on the streams are:

1. he's a grown man, why are you putting his business on the street?

2. if you have something to say about it on air, then come out and say it for crying out loud and stop with the cowardly (imo) drive-by one-liners followed by silence.

what's the point of it?

do you want to have an intervention for him?

are you trying to come across like journalists with a scoop?

the one that put me over the edge was just moments ago when Shane lost his 9b match to Jayson Shaw and Geoff Conway said "I wonder if Shane has enough money left to do the buyback". Then nothing else.

gee, I wonder if svb will be able to find it. :rolleyes:

You guys behind the mics should probably zip it or short of doing that, then go all the way the other direction and make it a topic of discussion.

All of the veiled zingers followed by dead air make you all look weak.

in my opinion.

best,
brian kc

Maybe the thread could have been titled less provocatively? If the point was to talk about NOT talking about something I mean.
 
Not a big deal.. if he's blowing 20G and leaving 80G at home.

Otherwise, we're going to end up with another story about a former top pro that needs everybody's sympathy and help because he couldn't take advantage of the great gift and opportunity that was there for him. Meanwhile, us dancing desk monkeys grind away our days so that we can pay the bills and have a dinner outside the house once in a while.

No wonder even some pro pool players want nothing to do with other pro pool players.

Here's an idea for a pool hall that'll make money..

Put a half dozen Diamond 9s in the middle of a casino and see how far the money gets from the table before the house has hands on it. :cool:

Why do you think Casinos are chomping at the bit to host pool events? They know that pool players as a group are weak ass money flushing gambling chumps.
 
Well, one way to look at it is that casinos that host pool tournaments *love* those who gamble on their table games. Pool players that gamble on the table games while at these host casinos are doing their part to help the tournament be hosted again in the future.

At Turning Stone Casino, every pit boss knows who Keith is and they treat him like royalty. :D

Grady Mathews is FOR SURE missed dearly by the casinos.... RIP.
 
Ya know first of all Geoff Conway is terrible and should be kept far from a mic. He works for free when they need an extra voice but Honeatly I'd rather hit mute, and do.

Aside from that, what Shane or anyone else does with their money is on them and nobody's business. Just because that nit has no gamble doesn't mean other cannot have fun with their money. I'd bet Shane is doing ok with money.

Couldn't agree more! Geoff's comment was uncalled for, and he owes Shane an appology in my opinion. People in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones.
 
Someone said "Casinos are for losers". Then "I've never been in a casino". Give us a break. I've been going on a few weekend trips a year to LV and Shreveport for over a decade, and I'm up over 2G's. Thats at the tables, not after my travel costs and bar tab ;@)

But I'm having a great time, with my wife and/or with friends. The trick is knowing which games to play. I mainly play blackjack and I count cards (I started years go with the HI-LO count and now use the KO count).

Vegas is a great place. Great casinos, great hotels, great restaurants, great shows.

I hope SVB is enjoying it all...
 
Ah, why not some pool player gambling stories?

Alex was playing poker in Vegas a few years ago.
He was one of two winners at the table.
The other winner got on Alex's case about how he played a hand.
He got nasty and threatening (subtly)....he weighed about 200 lbs.

Alex had enough, he stood up and said "Lets just step outside and
fight for our stacks."
The dealer had to call the pit-boss, who had to call security, who led
Alex over to cash his chips and then leave.
They were grinning at Alex and asked "Would you have really fought him?"

Alex said "What the hell, I could use the money."

One of the best stories ever! Made my wife and I laugh out loud! Thanks!!!!
 
Why do you think Casinos are chomping at the bit to host pool events? They know that pool players as a group are weak ass money flushing gambling chumps.

I would not say they are chomping at the bit to host pool tournaments. Pool players might like to gamble and not be great at casino games (who is) but as a group they don't have a lot of money to lose and no credit cards to max out, no real estate to double mortgage to finance a $100,000 gambling bender.

It would be awesome if casinos were lining up to host events and add money but it doesn't seem to be the case at all.
 
This thread is hilarious.

You're upset at what commentators say on live streams about getting into Shane's business, so you think telling everyone in the Main Forum on AZB about Shane's business is the best course of action.

Hahaha
 
Someone said "Casinos are for losers". Then "I've never been in a casino". Give us a break. I've been going on a few weekend trips a year to LV and Shreveport for over a decade, and I'm up over 2G's. Thats at the tables, not after my travel costs and bar tab ;@)

But I'm having a great time, with my wife and/or with friends. The trick is knowing which games to play. I mainly play blackjack and I count cards (I started years go with the HI-LO count and now use the KO count).

Vegas is a great place. Great casinos, great hotels, great restaurants, great shows.

I hope SVB is enjoying it all...

A fellow BlackJack counter on AZB?

I use a mix of systems depending on the game and am up thousands over the casinos even with poor penetration and crazy amounts of decks. Should show this guy how losers take money from casinos with just a 1-2% edge
 
Someone said "Casinos are for losers". Then "I've never been in a casino". Give us a break. I've been going on a few weekend trips a year to LV and Shreveport for over a decade, and I'm up over 2G's. Thats at the tables, not after my travel costs and bar tab ;@)

But I'm having a great time, with my wife and/or with friends. The trick is knowing which games to play. I mainly play blackjack and I count cards (I started years go with the HI-LO count and now use the KO count).

Vegas is a great place. Great casinos, great hotels, great restaurants, great shows.

I hope SVB is enjoying it all...

Well, they are for losers because if the majority of people who go in them to gamble didn't lose then the casinos could not survive. All that glitz doesn't come from winners, it comes from the losers.

Sure some people are very adept at working the system and can grind out a winning percentage against the casinos. But they are in the teeeny tiny minority. The rest are losing good chunks of money and being plied with comps to keep them buttered up and loose. Modern casinos have every mark figured out to the dime what they will go off for and the outliers who happen to win "big" once in a while are already calculated into the operating budget and make for good advertising.

That said the adage applies that you can't win when you won't bet. So casinos are where "winners" win big as well. One of my friends went to Ceasars, put 5k on one hand, hit a blackjack and got up from the table when she was $65,000 winner. For years after that Ceasars continued to send a limo to get her from the airport and comped her a room trying to get that money back and more. They didn't want her taking her action elsewhere on the strip. However the funny part is that when you have good comps at one casino then you are attractive to other ones and she had offers and comps from the other competing casinos as well. All this from one lucky run starting with an all-in 5k bet.

On the other hand one of my friends was very eager to try his system in Vegas. At the end of the first day I say how is it going and he says great, I am up 1600, three days later I see him and say how is it going and he says great, I am down 14,000.
 
The man is a single bachelor. So in my mind if he slept in a park bench every night it really doesn't matter to me. If he were not taking care of family, maybe it matters.

Everybody in this country gambles, it's not a knock on him. I've lost a few thousand in a night and won just the same. It's all very exciting and higher stakes bring bigger thrills. Saw a man in Vegas play $4,000 a hand blackjack two handed for hours. He lost a few hundred thousand and didn't bat an eye. Obviously he could afford it.

Playing for tens of thousands of dollars shooting pool when you are the frontrunner would condition one to bet it up. All I can say to Shane is take it down.
 
Why do you think Casinos are chomping at the bit to host pool events? They know that pool players as a group are weak ass money flushing gambling chumps.

So why do they hold MMA fights and rock concerts?

My second comment is unrelated to your post. I just wanted to say that the Shane defenders are equally as bad as the Shane haters, just on opposite ends of the spectrum
 
Ok...I usually wouldn't post in a thread like this...but a pool player with a gambling problem? Why...I didn't know that could happen...hahah.

Seriously though, most players I know also gamble, bet, flip quarters for 10$ a side, split card decks, and bet on which color gumball will fall out of the machine. The two cultures seem to go hand in hand around here. I'm not saying it's good...it just seems to be a fact.
 
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